You guys are missing the main issue by a mile.. women (majority) don't like big bulky bodybuilders, they like fit guys with a little bit of muscle and abs, attractive/healthy look.. I've studied this carefully over the years, going between 260lb. juiced up bodybuilder and 225lb. ripped pretty boy. I've always pulled WAAAAAAYYYYY more pussy when I was smaller, even if the bodyfat was the exact same.. face it, women just don't like big bodybuilders.