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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2007, 02:54:47 PM »
no just get rid of Israel and you get rid of the problem.

  Just nuking Israel won't work. Sure, destroying Israel would make the terrorist strikes end - because they strike the West due to our support for Israel -, but eventually they would try to convert us. they are fanatics and they believe they have a holy mission to convert the whole Humanity to their faifth. Look what they're doing in France, a country that has never supported Israel. They are trying to convert the population despite that.

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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2007, 02:57:15 PM »
  Just nuking Israel won't work. Sure, destroying Israel would make the terrorist strikes end - because they strike the West due to our support for Israel -, but eventually they would try to convert us. they are fanatics and they believe they have a holy mission to convert the whole Humanity to their faifth. Look what they're doing in France, a country that has never supported Israel. They are trying to convert the population despite that.

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Debussey's got an idea. Gary Busey pays for the bombs, and you push the ignition button for the 10000 rockets (containing the nukes) aimed at muslim countries. You in?  :)

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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2007, 03:21:59 PM »
  Just nuking Israel won't work. Sure, destroying Israel would make the terrorist strikes end - because they strike the West due to our support for Israel -, but eventually they would try to convert us. they are fanatics and they believe they have a holy mission to convert the whole Humanity to their faifth. Look what they're doing in France, a country that has never supported Israel. They are trying to convert the population despite that.

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Sounds a lot like christians....

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2007, 03:26:02 PM »
Sounds a lot like christians....

Minus the bombings and shit. (For what it's worth, I hate the crazy Xtians too)

haha look at these dumbfucks in this thread trying to compare christians and muslims....i never saw where in the 10 commandments it says you need to beat the shit out of your children if they don't conform.

No... I don't think they say kill them if they don't do what you like.

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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2007, 03:34:12 PM »
Minus the bombings and shit. (For what it's worth, I hate the crazy Xtians too)

No... I don't think they say kill them if they don't do what you like.

What have we done in Iraq, and threatening to do in Iran....is it coincidence that they are muslims in control of oil? Yes they are corrupt as far as we know, but who is more corrupt in the long run....Didnt we drop a couple of bombs on those buddhist extremists over there in Japan? Why did the japanese attack Pearl Harbour again?

Allah, i mean God is on our side to rid the earth of all these terrorists....Well we better rid ourselves then...Wait im getting confused with all these words, like infedels, terrorists....Muslims extremists want to rid the earth of infedels, USA wants to rid the earth of terrorists....The whole world thinks muslim extremists are quacks, the whole world think the bush admin are quacks....gotta go, take care

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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2007, 03:38:20 PM »
OTTAWA (AFP) — Friends and classmates of a 16-year-old girl who police say was murdered by her devout Muslim father in a Toronto

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suburb told local media Tuesday she was killed for not wearing a hijab.

Police said in a statement they received an emergency call at 7:55 am local time Monday from "a man who indicated that he had just killed his daughter."

The victim, Aqsa Parvez, was "rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries, but tragically passed away late last night."

Her father, Muhammad Parvez, 57, was arrested at the scene and will be formally charged with murder when he appears in court Wednesday, said police.

The girl's friends, meanwhile, told local media she was having trouble at home because she did not conform to the family's religious beliefs and refused to wear a traditional Islamic head scarf, or hijab.

"She wanted to go different ways than her family wanted to go, and she wanted to make her own path, but he (her father) wouldn't let her," one of her classmates told public broadcaster CBC.

"She loved clothes," another of her friends, Dominiquia Holmes-Thompson, told the daily Toronto Star. "She just wanted to show her beauty ... She just wanted to dress like us, just like a normal person."

According to her friends, Aqsa had worn the hijab at school last year, but rebelled in recent months.

They said she would leave home wearing a hijab and loose-fitting clothes, but would take off her head scarf and change into tighter garments at school, then change back before going home at the end of the day.

The victim's 26 year-old brother was also charged with obstructing police in the investigation.

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« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2007, 03:41:25 PM »
What have we done in Iraq, and threatening to do in Iran....is it coincidence that they are muslims in control of oil? Yes they are corrupt as far as we know, but who is more corrupt in the long run....Didnt we drop a couple of bombs on those buddhist extremists over there in Japan? Why did the japanese attack Pearl Harbour again?

Allah, i mean God is on our side to rid the earth of all these terrorists....Well we better rid ourselves then...Wait im getting confused with all these words, like infedels, terrorists....Muslims extremists want to rid the earth of infedels, USA wants to rid the earth of terrorists....The whole world thinks muslim extremists are quacks, the whole world think the bush admin are quacks....gotta go, take care

Dude... what we did was for GREED, not for religion... totally different.

I think that's bullshit too, but it's not over RELIGION.

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« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2007, 03:54:04 PM »
Dude... what we did was for GREED, not for religion... totally different.

I think that's bullshit too, but it's not over RELIGION.

Yes, what we're refusing to do is to devote ANY resources to developing and building an infrastructure and economy that is *not* 100% reliant on oil.

Why?

Because the rich White folk who control the oil trade don't want there to be a chance for anyone else to come in and start running things. 

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« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2007, 03:56:54 PM »
Yes, what we're refusing to do is to devote ANY resources to developing and building an infrastructure and economy that is *not* 100% reliant on oil.

Why?

Because the rich White folk who control the oil trade don't want there to be a chance for anyone else to come in and start running things. 

I won't disagree with that what so ever... It's still not the same thing as killing your kid  because she's not following your religion.

I've heard it all and seen even more... Muslim religions are simply violent... end of story.

Christianity has also been violent at times, but it is not so NOW.

Maybe if the neanderthals move forward in time a bit, they can reshape it into a truly peaceful religion, but we're talking about 500 years from now.

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« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2007, 04:00:42 PM »
Religion is a bad apple.

Religion in all forms is dangerous depending on the type of followers. Most christians are from educated societies and have a broad mind, as do jews. Islam on the other hand is followed by many poor nations. Combine poverty and a backwards faith and you've got a ticking timebomb.

Being of a muslim background, I can tell everyone that more than 50% of religious muslims are somewhat backwards. They always tend to be domian loyal to their place of origin, and they'll disregard any western custom or law when it conflicts with their faith. They'll never adress the problem regarding islam and violence, and they'll always consider someone who chooses to be nonreligious as a traitor. They'll most certainly enjoy the benefits and perks of western society, even blending in to a point(I saw a chick wearing a small skirt and hijab once), yet will never view their fellow westerners as equals or countrymen. That's just the truth.


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« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2007, 04:05:19 PM »
Yes, what we're refusing to do is to devote ANY resources to developing and building an infrastructure and economy that is *not* 100% reliant on oil.

Why?

Because the rich White folk who control the oil trade don't want there to be a chance for anyone else to come in and start running things. 

BS on the race card, brotha man...The US economy controls oil.  The "black folk" driving their escalades need the same gas as the white girl driving her hyundai santa fe

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« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2007, 04:07:47 PM »
BS on the race card, brotha man...The US economy controls oil.  The "black folk" driving their escalades need the same gas as the white #### driving her hyundai santa fe

Can anyone honestly say controling Iraqi oil is a bad thing?  ;D Imagine how our lifestyles would be effected if we didn't..

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« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2007, 04:12:00 PM »
Religion is a bad apple.

Religion in all forms is dangerous depending on the type of followers. Most christians are from educated societies and have a broad mind, as do jews. Islam on the other hand is followed by many poor nations. Combine poverty and a backwards faith and you've got a ticking timebomb.

Being of a muslim background, I can tell everyone that more than 50% of religious muslims are somewhat backwards. They always tend to be domian loyal to their place of origin, and they'll disregard any western custom or law when it conflicts with their faith. They'll never adress the problem regarding islam and violence, and they'll always consider someone who chooses to be nonreligious as a traitor. They'll most certainly enjoy the benefits and perks of western society, even blending in to a point(I saw a chick wearing a small skirt and hijab once), yet will never view their fellow westerners as equals or countrymen. That's just the truth.



They will integrate eventually. It is a result of a natural adaption process, but it might take many decades, and includes the passing of the stone hard stupids.

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« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2007, 04:14:30 PM »

Maybe if the neanderthals move forward in time a bit

Yes, correct, anyone that goes to Dubai and is American should watch out, Shari law has locked up many Americans thus far. Politics is keeping it out of the papers

They will integrate eventually. It is a result of a natural adaption process, but it might take many decades.

who will integrate christians to muslims or muslims to christians for every 6 people 1 is muslim.

they practice polygamy, thus ensures they reproduce more so than any other religion, when they give birth and are very poor they see birth as a gift and continue to make more gifts no matter if the baby soon dies of starvation they just continue

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« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2007, 04:17:27 PM »
who will integrate christians to muslims or muslims to christians for every 6 people 1 is muslim.

they practice polygamy, thus ensures they reproduce more so than any other religion, when they give birth and are very poor they see birth as a gift and continue to make more gifts no matter if the baby soon dies of starvation they just continue

Debussey means that they will integrate into the western/future global way of life, and tone down the religious impact on their lives. This is natural, because in their own "countries", their BS way of life has a purpose. In the good part of the world, it is counter productive. You can only fight a loosing battle so long.

When it comes to the poor countries where they still have a "purpose", it is an interesting scenario. They do not produce much and they spend very little money on RandR. They will either fuck it all up, or slowly adapt to the global economy by becoming more educated. But frankly, as long as the west stops importing these fools, we could nuke Sudan for all Gary Busey cares.

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In 200 years, "Islam" as we know it today will be ancient history.

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« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2007, 04:18:20 PM »
Debussey means that they will integrate into the western/future global way of life, and tone down the religious impact on their lives. This is natural, because in their own "countries", their BS way of life has a purpose. In the good part of the world, it is counter productive. You can only fight a loosing battle so long.

In 200 years, "Islam" as we know it today will be ancient history.

500 years... It's going to take about 500 I think.

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« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2007, 04:23:53 PM »
Can anyone honestly say controling Iraqi oil is a bad thing?  ;D Imagine how our lifestyles would be effected if we didn't..

Strong big economies have clout.  Deal with it.  China is doing it now and they are trying to be communist and last i checked their skin was yellow...

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« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2007, 04:26:29 PM »
500 years... It's going to take about 500 I think.

Who knows, but many countries here in Europe were just as bad as Izlamifized countries are today if not worse. It took about 200 years for this to change into the worlds most highly developed societies. And this was before the internet. Hah.

Today, these muslim nutcountries can not sustain their stupidity for many reasons. One is the economic one. In a world economy based more and more on technology, education and research = needed. Most poor muslim countries do not participate in this activity. If they are to start participating in RandR, they need to loosen up on their religious values and way of life in order to actually teach shit.

It is not going to be funny being a muslim in 20 years if this continues, and even the stupidest fuckers will see that their little "campaign for islam" only hurts themselves in the long run, because human progress will continue and accelerate, and human progress has a tendency to diminish religions impact on society. They can bomb all they want, but they can not stop the big machinery, and the machinery will get better at stopping them.

They are fighting a loosing battle, and if they do not adapt, they will be extinct, no matter how much people fear them getting into a position of control and all of that shit. It ain't gonna happen, and muslims will only ruin their own lives. If it's broke, fix it before it creates havoc.

History has shown that even under the worst of tyrranic and irrational conditions, the sound and rational ideas that leads to progress always wins through in the end, and there has been much bigger "threats" to the progress of humanity than a bunch of stupid fundamentalists.


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« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2007, 04:31:30 PM »
500 years... It's going to take about 500 I think.

I don't think so.

How fast it will happen is connected to simple economic sucess. Most people of muslim backgrounds who are sucessful in west tend to be nonreligious. Saudi princes may dress a certain way, but they're fucking euro whores in their private boats and planes.

In contrast, idiots driving cabs are the ones pissed about their daughters not wearing hijabs.

The US has probably done a better job of integrating muslims than any other country.. Europe is a disaster. Canada has done okay, but has tanked recently.

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« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2007, 04:37:43 PM »
I don't think so.

How fast it will happen is connected to simple economic sucess. Most people of muslim backgrounds who are sucessful in west tend to be nonreligious. Saudi princes may dress a certain way, but they're fucking euro whores in their private boats and planes.

In contrast, idiots driving cabs are the ones pissed about their daughters not wearing hijabs.

The US has probably done a better job of integrating muslims than any other country.. Europe is a disaster. Canada has done okay, but has tanked recently.


Debussey thinks you need to see this in a bigger time frame. This has happened before throughout history. 500 years = a long time.

The contemporary situation = not a good way to estimate the rate of change regarding this problem, because it fails to factor in the underlying mechanisms that creates long term change, and is usually centered around one context (when the real situation is composed of many thousand at least). It is a bit like dieting, you see very little change on a day 2 day basis, but eventually, you will look totally different. The worst stonehards will die. History is a much better indicator, because it describes change over many different contexts, and the similarities = striking.

Also think about the technological progress the next 500 years will bring. The world will not need many cabdolls and shitsmellers, and pure intellectual power will be in fashion. The last 500 years totally changed the way humans lived life. THe progress is exponential. Even in 200 years, life will be so different that we all hopefully will be praying to Gary.


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« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2007, 04:53:23 PM »
Also remember that humanity has battled different problems at different stages of it's developmental levels.

It has been fighting for food. We solved that.

It has been fighting terrible disease. (the black plague, which wiped out like 33 - 66% of the european population). We solved that. Enormous pandemics = not highly present in our everyday lives, but it might come again.

It has been fighting to get the scientific ideal from an underground world into becoming the basis on which we build our lives upon. (hey there Gallileo). We solved that one.



It now seems to be based around the globalization and the subsequent clash of incompatible values and religious systems -> And this might be the biggest problem humanity faces for the next hundred years.


Debussey believes that humanity will integrate into a global unity, where tolerance will ultimately prevail.

Remember that any group of humans or any society tends to forget their differences if an external enemy or threat is present (Hey there Goebbels). WHen the next problem faces humanity, perhaps the threat of asteroids crushing the planet, then religious differences will quickly forgotten.


Conclusion: Debussey does not think that the "izlam" thing is some unknown force that will remain forever. It is a problem that must be dealt with at this point in humanitys development. It was bound to come, unless globalization and the internet was to be held off.

Who knows what problems we will face in 5000 years.

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« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2007, 05:12:31 PM »
Debussey means that they will integrate into the western/future global way of life, and tone down the religious impact on their lives. This is natural, because in their own "countries", their BS way of life has a purpose. In the good part of the world, it is counter productive. You can only fight a loosing battle so long.

When it comes to the poor countries where they still have a "purpose", it is an interesting scenario. They do not produce much and they spend very little money on RandR. They will either fuck it all up, or slowly adapt to the global economy by becoming more educated. But frankly, as long as the west stops importing these fools, we could nuke Sudan for all Gary Busey cares.

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In 200 years, "Islam" as we know it today will be ancient history.

Are you suggesting counter culture imperialism tactics?

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« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2007, 05:16:45 PM »
Are you suggesting counter culture imperialism tactics?

We could drop bombs of nude magazine, x-box games, and miller lite, and some ciggs for Christmas.






The best way would be to develop small brain controlling + brain changing nanobots and implant them into the brain of everybody in the arab world via slick aerosol virus spreading tactics and water reservoir nanobots infection.

We would then reprogram the brains of the entire arab population to serve Gary Busey and Jesus Debussey (me) by becoming slaves in the alien space ship.

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« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2007, 05:24:34 PM »
Are you suggesting counter culture imperialism tactics?

We could drop bombs of nude magazine, x-box games, and miller lite, and some ciggs for Christmas.





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« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2007, 05:46:32 PM »
Are you suggesting counter culture imperialism tactics?

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