daily vitamins,minerals,antioxidants

[kukacomone]

Morning:

SUPER ALL-DAYŽ NUTRICOM Powder
4g C-vitamin
B-100 komplex
1g Calcium
400mg Magnesium
25mg Zinc
CO Q-10 100 mg
3g fishoil

Before bed:

1g Calcium
400mg Magnesium
25mg Zinc
3g fishoil

What do u think?

[webcake]

Personally all i take is a quality multi vitamin, some extra vitamin C and some glucosamine and fish (salmon) oil tabs. What you are taking seems a bit excessive, but you may need the things you are taking. I'd cut down what you are taking though.

[Necrosis]

Morning:

SUPER ALL-DAYŽ NUTRICOM Powder
4g C-vitamin
B-100 komplex
1g Calcium
400mg Magnesium
25mg Zinc
CO Q-10 100 mg
3g fishoil

Before bed:

1g Calcium
400mg Magnesium
25mg Zinc
3g fishoil

What do u think?

looks fine. multiple supplement users are healthier then non supp users, many articles have shown that. obviously not a fact but there is a very high positive correlation there. if you dont have any particular health concerns then your stack looks fine. there is alot you could add, but unless you have specific concerns your laughing

[MidniteRambo]

I would throw in some green tea capsules.

[Necrosis]

I would throw in some green tea capsules.

good suggestion, or you could drink 3-5 cups a day either way its a great suggestion.

[kukacomone]

Thanks the input guys!
How many green tea? 2x315mg?

[candidizzle]

hmmm......i have been reading lately that green tea has levels of flouride in it that inhibit proper thyroid gland function... so while you will get a metabolic boost while taking green tea; once you come off of it you will have a suppressed metabolism because of a supressed thyroid via too much flouride intake.

[Necrosis]

hmmm......i have been reading lately that green tea has levels of flouride in it that inhibit proper thyroid gland function... so while you will get a metabolic boost while taking green tea; once you come off of it you will have a suppressed metabolism because of a supressed thyroid via too much flouride intake.

you have a source? flouride is also in toothpast, so stop brushing your teeth. seriously i have never heard of this so if you could post your study id love to read it.

[candidizzle]

you have a source? flouride is also in toothpast, so stop brushing your teeth. seriously i have never heard of this so if you could post your study id love to read it.

1. The enzyme manufacture of thyroid hormones within the thyroid gland itself. The process by which iodine is attached to the amino acid tyrosine and converted to the two significant thyroid hormones, thyroxine (T4) and liothyronine (T3), is slowed.
 
2. The stimulation of certain G proteins from the toxic effect of fluoride (whose function is to govern uptake of substances into each of the cells of the body), has the effect of switching off the uptake into the cell of the active thyroid hormone.
 
3. The thyroid control mechanism is compromised. The thyroid stimulating hormone output from the pituitary gland is inhibited by fluoride, thus reducing thyroid output of thyroid hormones.
 
4. Fluoride competes for the receptor sites on the thyroid gland which respond to the thyroid stimulating hormone; so that less of this hormone reaches the thyroid gland and so less thyroid hormone is manufactured.
These damaging effects, all of which occur with small concentrations of fluoride, have obvious and easily identifiable effects on thyroid status. The running down of thyroid hormone means a slow slide into hypothyroidism. Already the incidence of hypothyroidism is increasing as a result of other environmental toxins and pollutions together with wide spread nutritional deficiencies.



http://www.rense.com/general57/FLUR.HTM



Fluoride's potential to impair thyroid function is perhaps best illustrated by the fact that -- up until the 1970s -- European doctors used fluoride as a thyroid-suppressing medication for patients with HYPER-thyroidism (over-active thyroid). Fluoride was utilized because it was found to be effective at reducing the activity of the thyroid gland - even at doses as low as 2 mg/day.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/thyroid/

[Necrosis]

1. The enzyme manufacture of thyroid hormones within the thyroid gland itself. The process by which iodine is attached to the amino acid tyrosine and converted to the two significant thyroid hormones, thyroxine (T4) and liothyronine (T3), is slowed.
 
2. The stimulation of certain G proteins from the toxic effect of fluoride (whose function is to govern uptake of substances into each of the cells of the body), has the effect of switching off the uptake into the cell of the active thyroid hormone.
 
3. The thyroid control mechanism is compromised. The thyroid stimulating hormone output from the pituitary gland is inhibited by fluoride, thus reducing thyroid output of thyroid hormones.
 
4. Fluoride competes for the receptor sites on the thyroid gland which respond to the thyroid stimulating hormone; so that less of this hormone reaches the thyroid gland and so less thyroid hormone is manufactured.
These damaging effects, all of which occur with small concentrations of fluoride, have obvious and easily identifiable effects on thyroid status. The running down of thyroid hormone means a slow slide into hypothyroidism. Already the incidence of hypothyroidism is increasing as a result of other environmental toxins and pollutions together with wide spread nutritional deficiencies.



http://www.rense.com/general57/FLUR.HTM



Fluoride's potential to impair thyroid function is perhaps best illustrated by the fact that -- up until the 1970s -- European doctors used fluoride as a thyroid-suppressing medication for patients with HYPER-thyroidism (over-active thyroid). Fluoride was utilized because it was found to be effective at reducing the activity of the thyroid gland - even at doses as low as 2 mg/day.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/thyroid/

i know about the effects of flouride but i was asking about a study showing that green tea had appreciable amounts and had negative effects.

trh in the hypo stimulates the anterior pi twhich releases tsh which causes the release of t4 which is converted into t3 via diodinase. t3 is a tyrosine with 3 iodines and is much more potent then t4. tyrosine is also responsible for the production of catecholamines in the adrenal medulla. so anywhere along with this pathway whether secondary or primary damage could cause those effects. so the article is right but i dont see how that indicates anything about flouride in green tea. many things can impair thyroid function so i would be very cautious to advise people against taking green tea.

especially since green tea contains condensed and hydrolyzable tannins which have shown, anti cancer, metabolic enhancing, anti allergy and even antitussive effects(more likely mast cells stabilization) and long prolonging properties.  i would say the more green tea the better for most people as there is a linear relationship.

do you have a study showing the depressive effects on the thyroid of green tea? i was just interested in your comment that green tea has flouride in it, and in amounts that "  inhibit proper thyroid gland function"

[candidizzle]

Tea is very high in fluoride content. Fluoride in tea is much higher than the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water.

Tea leaves accumulate more fluoride (from pollution of soil and air) than any other edible plant (1,2,3). Fluoride content in tea has risen dramatically over the last 20 years, as has tea consumption (4).



Drinking a cup of tea with fluoride content as mentioned above (7.8mg) would mean a fluoride intake much higher(!) than amounts which were actually given as medication to treat hyperthyroidism (-> over-functioning thyroid) for numerous decades - in several countries - specifically to reduce thyroid activity!


http://www.mercola.com/2000/sep/10/green_tea_fluoride_thyroid.htm



Fluoride can also affect the thyroid. Specifically, it suppresses thyroid function, leading to hypothyroidism. This is a well-known fact, as, ironically, the amount of fluoride in a typical cup of tea is actually much higher than amounts that were used decades ago as medication for hyperthyroidism, to reduce thyroid activity.

http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/02/22/why_green_tea_would_be_healthy_except_for_this_one_dangerous_issue_004.htm


While green tea has some definite benefits in the cancer-prevention and metabolism-boosting arena, the fluoride content may, according to some practitioners, be a concern for the public in general, but specifically for thyroid patients.
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/toxicchemicalsan/l/blteafluoride.htm

[busyB]

Candi, those are ARTICLES not STUDIES....just because someone wrote about it, does not make it so.

He is asking for STUDIES which will prove what is written. I did not see one study attached to any of the ARTICLES you provided.

[Necrosis]

Candi, those are ARTICLES not STUDIES....just because someone wrote about it, does not make it so.

He is asking for STUDIES which will prove what is written. I did not see one study attached to any of the ARTICLES you provided.

not only that im wondering if C. sinesis(sp) plant, the teas, white green and black  have flouride specifically because if they did that would be pretty huge set back as they are potent disease fighters.

[Princess L]

Candi, those are ARTICLES not STUDIES....just because someone wrote about it, does not make it so.

He is asking for STUDIES which will prove what is written. I did not see one study attached to any of the ARTICLES you provided.

It appears everything goes back to ONE case study from '05 in which a woman drank absurd amounts of tea.


A 2005 study conducted by Dr Michael Whyte from the Washington University in St Louis raised concerns about instant iced tea.

A middle aged woman was diagnosed with skeletal fluorosis for two reasons:

    * She drank well water of 2.8 part per million.

    * Because of the hot weather, she drank one to two gallons of double strength instant iced tea each day.

This led the researchers to test the fluoride content of instant tea available on the supermarket shelves. These instant teas contained 1.0 to 6.5 part per million.

It's no secret tea contains fluoride.  Is it harmful?  Unlikely.  I'd worry (if I was going to worry) about my drinking water first.
http://www.teausa.com/general/tea_and_fluoride.cfm#

[busyB]

It appears everything goes back to ONE case study from '05 in which a woman drank absurd amounts of tea.


A 2005 study conducted by Dr Michael Whyte from the Washington University in St Louis raised concerns about instant iced tea.

A middle aged woman was diagnosed with skeletal fluorosis for two reasons:

    * She drank well water of 2.8 part per million.

    * Because of the hot weather, she drank one to two gallons of double strength instant iced tea each day.

This led the researchers to test the fluoride content of instant tea available on the supermarket shelves. These instant teas contained 1.0 to 6.5 part per million.

It's no secret tea contains fluoride.  Is it harmful?  Unlikely.  I'd worry (if I was going to worry) about my drinking water first.
http://www.teausa.com/general/tea_and_fluoride.cfm#

There we go...thanks, that is good info there..

But if I drank 2 gallons of tea a day, I would never leave the bathroom.

I do wonder how much the well water had to do with it though. Arizona water is horrible and I only drink water that I go and fill up at the water and ice store. Hope the flouride level is not too high in their osmosis process?!?