Author Topic: thoughts on 1st cycle (Read 1759 times)

rk272727 · « **on:** December 17, 2007, 07:54:58 PM »

need some info on what a good 1st cycle should have thanks for the help

wes mantooth · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2007, 07:58:41 PM »

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=92379.0

youre welcome

trab · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2007, 05:14:15 AM »

Quote from: rk272727 on December 17, 2007, 07:54:58 PM

need some info on what a good 1st cycle should have thanks for the help

How old are you? What kind of shape and waht strength levels in the big 3 lifts?...
I puke when I see 20ish yr old kids taht cant even bench or Squat or Dead w/ 1/2 way decent form
use AAS.

Contrary to manys opinion, I feel strength does tell a lot. It tells if you have the lifts/form down and that you been at it awhile.
Without that there is NO Biz using the stuff for BBIng reasons.

Do you know/ understand the risks of use?
Do you understand you WILL knock out your Nat Test production and its not a snap to return to normal?

Understand how little real and good steroid there is out there?

krazee · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:36:46 PM »

Quote from: trab on December 18, 2007, 05:14:15 AM

How old are you? What kind of shape and waht strength levels in the big 3 lifts?...
I puke when I see 20ish yr old kids taht cant even bench or Squat or Dead w/ 1/2 way decent form
use AAS.

Contrary to manys opinion, I feel strength does tell a lot. It tells if you have the lifts/form down and that you been at it awhile.
Without that there is NO Biz using the stuff for BBIng reasons.

Do you know/ understand the risks of use?
Do you understand you WILL knock out your Nat Test production and its not a snap to return to normal?

Understand how little real and good steroid there is out there?

Preach on brother man....preach on.

trab · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:19:05 AM »

Back before the I-Net, you had to read books to learn about AAS medical facts.
ALL the even 1/2 Asse'd books pointed out the risks and how to minimise them up front.

That is lacking w/ all these young guys that use now.

They dont undestand its not just like, take a pill= Buff. Its not that simple.

GoneAway · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2007, 07:14:20 AM »

Quote from: trab on December 19, 2007, 05:19:05 AM

Back before the I-Net, you had to read books to learn about AAS medical facts.
ALL the even 1/2 Asse'd books pointed out the risks and how to minimise them up front.

That is lacking w/ all these young guys that use now.

They dont undestand its not just like, take a pill= Buff. Its not that simple.

no doubt. the risks are well worth doing ur homework on.

i have a question. how does a guy like arnold, who used for about 10 years straight, and then on-and-off (i assume) for movies, go on to have kids later in life, if the gear stops ur natural test from being produced?

StillTippin · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2007, 09:23:08 AM »

Quote from: GoneAway on December 19, 2007, 07:14:20 AM

no doubt. the risks are well worth doing ur homework on.

i have a question. how does a guy like arnold, who used for about 10 years straight, and then on-and-off (i assume) for movies, go on to have kids later in life, if the gear stops ur natural test from being produced?

Simple, he's Arnold.

Emmortal · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2007, 09:37:32 AM »

Quote from: GoneAway on December 19, 2007, 07:14:20 AM

no doubt. the risks are well worth doing ur homework on.

i have a question. how does a guy like arnold, who used for about 10 years straight, and then on-and-off (i assume) for movies, go on to have kids later in life, if the gear stops ur natural test from being produced?

Just because your natural testosterone production halts doesn't mean you become infertile. I've known several guys who got their girls pregnant while on a 1+ year cycle.

trab · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2007, 04:45:55 PM »

Quote from: Emmortal on December 19, 2007, 09:37:32 AM

Just because your natural testosterone production halts doesn't mean you become infertile. I've known several guys who got their girls pregnant while on a 1+ year cycle.

The odds are low of that if using real gear.(Pregnancy)
Your sperm count goes inthe gutter... Trust me, Ive Lab test work to prove it.
Good news is , it comes back in about 16 weeks... IF YOU STAY OFF!

Low dose is not a issue. (and that what most UG is

) I Got wifey prego while on Andriol and stanoz just fine...

The Squadfather · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2007, 04:47:08 PM »

750mg. long acting test/week, 400mg. of either Deca or equipoise/week and 30mg. d bol/day.

Emmortal · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:03:39 PM »

Quote from: trab on December 19, 2007, 04:45:55 PM

The odds are low of that if using real gear.(Pregnancy)
Your sperm count goes inthe gutter... Trust me, Ive Lab test work to prove it.
Good news is , it comes back in about 16 weeks... IF YOU STAY OFF!

Low dose is not a issue. (and that what most UG is ) I Got wifey prego while on Andriol and stanoz just fine...

Very true, I was just saying it's not impossible to get your girl pregnant while on cycle. Hell, even for guys who've never been ON cycle it can be difficult to get your girl pregnant, even with high sperm count. I have two friends who have never done juice, just normal guys, who have been trying to get pregnant for over a year now and can't. Both of them have been fully tested, nothing is wrong. It can just be so random with that shit really.

trab · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:09:47 PM »

Quote from: Emmortal on December 19, 2007, 05:03:39 PM

Very true, I was just saying it's not impossible to get your girl pregnant while on cycle. Hell, even for guys who've never been ON cycle it can be difficult to get your girl pregnant, even with high sperm count. I have two friends who have never done juice, just normal guys, who have been trying to get pregnant for over a year now and can't. Both of them have been fully tested, nothing is wrong. It can just be so random with that shit really.

Yup, and in fact for them, mild shit like andriol may help if the have sex 2-4 more times a week.
NOt much, 2 caps...
Many PPl So stressed w/ jobs they dont feel like sex or have "Time".
MAKE TIME

Arnold jr · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:41:24 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 19, 2007, 04:47:08 PM

750mg. long acting test/week, 400mg. of either Deca or equipoise/week and 30mg. d bol/day.

This is your recommendation?

busyB · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:55:55 PM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on December 19, 2007, 05:41:24 PM

This is your recommendation?

Can't you tell, it is working for him!?!

Arnold jr · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:57:14 PM »

Quote from: busyB on December 19, 2007, 05:55:55 PM

Can't you tell, it is working for him!?!

This is true, but we can't all be as magical as the squad.

GoneAway · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2007, 01:52:22 AM »

Quote from: Emmortal on December 19, 2007, 09:37:32 AM

Just because your natural testosterone production halts doesn't mean you become infertile. I've known several guys who got their girls pregnant while on a 1+ year cycle.

ah, so test has nothing to do with sperm?

trab · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2007, 04:42:12 AM »

Quote from: GoneAway on December 20, 2007, 01:52:22 AM

ah, so test has nothing to do with sperm?

Yes it does, its a complicated thing..... AAS will lower sperm count dramaticly over time.

Stop using them, and it returns to normal.

Search - World heallth Organisation , Testoterone Enanthate as birth control study and read the study results.
Dont trust it for contraceptive though. Many variabels for BBer, esp if UG gear.

TE alone worked as Contraceptive for me for over a year. But Dont try that.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2007, 05:52:23 AM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on December 19, 2007, 05:57:14 PM

This is true, but we can't all be as magical as the squad.

let's see your picture "big guy".

Arnold jr · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2007, 06:16:36 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 20, 2007, 05:52:23 AM

let's see your picture "big guy".

The Squadfather · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2007, 06:49:11 AM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on December 20, 2007, 06:16:36 AM

hahahaha, just what i thought, another pusssy, now go ahead and delete my post chickenshit.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2007, 10:07:24 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 20, 2007, 06:49:11 AM

hahahaha, just what i thought, another pusssy, now go ahead and delete my post chickenshit.

No deleting here...btw, why are you so tough on me? Do you not approve of my hardcore physique?

Rimbaud · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2007, 11:56:54 AM »

Come on guys let's try to keep it fairly serious here.

busyB · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2007, 12:08:24 PM »

Since you guys are brave enough to post your pics, here's one of me and my gym buddies after a hard leg day!

Emmortal · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2007, 12:18:53 PM »

That guy on the end looks suspiciously familiar....dad??