That's right, Greg Kovacs! Yes, I will conceed that later in his career....well, words don't describe what he looked like! Keep in mind that he was past his prime, and he had taken Chad's advice, which we all know does a "number" on the body! I figured if Nasser El Sh!tty can have a thread, then a FORMER good bodybuilder with the potential to become great should have one also. TEAM KOVACS!!!