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Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« on: December 25, 2007, 05:35:48 AM »
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2007, 05:59:51 AM »
hitchens is a sellout, IMO.

He went on the talk shows and said he KNOWS that there was no bin laden plane chartered following 911.

then the FOIA showed that osama's fcking name was actually on the sept 13th plane order from the fbi.  I mean, the man himself - his name was on it.

hitchens used to be one of my favorite voices. lost all credibility since.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2007, 06:05:21 AM »
hitchens is a sellout, IMO.

He went on the talk shows and said he KNOWS that there was no bin laden plane chartered following 911.

then the FOIA showed that osama's fcking name was actually on the sept 13th plane order from the fbi.  I mean, the man himself - his name was on it.

hitchens used to be one of my favorite voices. lost all credibility since.

I like Hitchens' take on religion but the Iraq thing is beyond me. You, however 240, should love Hitchens support for the war. You love the war because you will be able to drive your SUV some more, right?  ::)
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2007, 07:39:44 AM »
i've accepted the inevitablity of corporate takeover and i've realized we're embarking upon modern day colonialism as the top superpower always does by definition to stay the top superpower.

I don't fight the blue in the sky or the laws of gravity - i see them as inevitable, maybe necessary, but certainly unstoppable.

I don't like Hitchens anymore.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2007, 08:12:50 AM »
I like his atheism, and loved his owning of Farwell and Hannity.

Dawkins does not support the war.  ;D

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2007, 01:04:58 PM »
Hitchens is a libertarian and recognized early on that Saddam was a problem and needed to be dealt with.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2007, 02:51:55 PM »
Hitchens is a libertarian and recognized early on that Saddam was a problem and needed to be dealt with.

Hah! A libertarian? He is about as much a libertarian as Billary is! I don't know of any libertarians who actively support the concept of nation building, which Hitchens clearly does.
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2007, 03:03:24 PM »
i've accepted the inevitablity of corporate takeover and i've realized we're embarking upon modern day colonialism as the top superpower always does by definition to stay the top superpower.

I don't fight the blue in the sky or the laws of gravity - i see them as inevitable, maybe necessary, but certainly unstoppable.

I don't like Hitchens anymore.

Fallacious nonsense, fascist swine. This was the same argument people used in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's, whilst standing by and doing nothing. If everyone thought the way you did there would have been no resistance to Nazi power.

What is going on is not equatable to the laws of gravity!  ::) Utter nonsense.

You're a scumbag 240 and you can't even back up your claims with convincing arguments.
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2007, 03:06:54 PM »
Hah! A libertarian? He is about as much a libertarian as Billary is! I don't know of any libertarians who actively support the concept of nation building, which Hitchens clearly does.

He claims to be libertarian.

His politics are libertarian.

He spouts libertarian ideals.

What hitchens supports is finishing what we've started.  If you don't know a libertarian from the clintons you might wanna take a little more time learning what a libertarian really is.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2007, 03:07:39 PM »

You're a scumbag 240 and you can't even back up your claims with convincing arguments.

glad someone else on here can see thru that guy.. wheww!!

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 03:23:27 PM »
He claims to be libertarian.

His politics are libertarian.

He spouts libertarian ideals.

What hitchens supports is finishing what we've started.  If you don't know a libertarian from the clintons you might wanna take a little more time learning what a libertarian really is.

I AM a libertarian and that is my point. No nation building, no policing of the world; Hitchens thinks it was a good and necessary thing to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. His other politics are libertarianesque perhaps but his foreign policy views are most certainly not; in that respect he is a neo-con.
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2007, 04:18:15 PM »
I AM a libertarian and that is my point. No nation building, no policing of the world; Hitchens thinks it was a good and necessary thing to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. His other politics are libertarianesque perhaps but his foreign policy views are most certainly not; in that respect he is a neo-con.

I think policing the world (to an extent) is necessary when dealing with people like Saddam and Al-Queda.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2007, 05:04:45 PM »
I think policing the world (to an extent) is necessary when dealing with people like Saddam and Al-Queda.

Brix, who created al quida?

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2007, 05:46:27 PM »
Hitchens was a socialist early on in his career.

I think he is what he is simply because of his dislike for religion(islam). This dislike pushes him towards the divisions that seem to combating the thing itself; which they really aren't doing. Hitchens has lost some of his flare, and in my opinion ought to just stick to being a religious critic.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2007, 06:06:24 PM »
Brix, who created al quida?

You are so weird. On the one hand you are a fascist scumbag, on the other hand I agree here with you; we galvanised the Taliban back in the eighties, training them, supplying them with weapons and radicalising them still further. If you follow the trail of blood, it leads to Washington.

P.S. You are still a fascist swine who has claimed that Iraq and neo-colonialism are tantamount to the 'laws of gravity'!  ::)
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2007, 07:32:53 PM »
Brix, who created al quida?

Not George W..

And we sure as hell didn't arm them to fight ourselves dumbass.. they decided to start a personal war against us on their own.

Just because you can't excuse clinton for what he did through all your lame and retarded arguments that hold no water doesn't mean your gonna change anyones mind.  Stick to the CT bullshit.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 09:31:37 AM »
While he is a well spoken drunk, Hitchens is clearly a contrarian.  He wants to be relevant and edgy so he comes out against religion at christmas, he supports the war when the vast majority of the planet is against the war and he supports Bush when the US hates the president's performance.

When was Hitchens a Trotsky socialist?  When conservatism was in vogue.

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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 01:36:59 PM »
You are so weird. On the one hand you are a fascist scumbag, on the other hand I agree here with you; we galvanised the Taliban back in the eighties, training them, supplying them with weapons and radicalising them still further. If you follow the trail of blood, it leads to Washington.

P.S. You are still a fascist swine who has claimed that Iraq and neo-colonialism are tantamount to the 'laws of gravity'!  ::)


There was no Taliban in the 80's..thats like saying that those fighting the invasion of Chechnya were Taliban..they were Mujihadeen. The Taliban are a Political group founded and funded by various groups inside Pakistan. We supplied the rebels inside afghanistan...we never started AQ, nor funded what became AQ. I'm sure that we funded many groups that allied themselves with the Taliban because thats the nature of life in Afghanistan. We backed the Northern Alliance, primarily because they had a track record of victories over the Soviets...We backed anybody fighting the Sov's. The pull-out of Red Army troops from Afganistan was another huge brick out of the Soviet wall..that led to her collapse.  U can't state as fact that we supplied AQ or funded Bin Laden unless u have some proof...CT websites that cobble together facts with supposition..or find murkey deep throats does not count.
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Re: Why on earth does Hitchens support the war in Iraq?!
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 03:37:35 PM »

There was no Taliban in the 80's..thats like saying that those fighting the invasion of Chechnya were Taliban..they were Mujihadeen. The Taliban are a Political group founded and funded by various groups inside Pakistan. We supplied the rebels inside afghanistan...we never started AQ, nor funded what became AQ. I'm sure that we funded many groups that allied themselves with the Taliban because thats the nature of life in Afghanistan. We backed the Northern Alliance, primarily because they had a track record of victories over the Soviets...We backed anybody fighting the Sov's. The pull-out of Red Army troops from Afganistan was another huge brick out of the Soviet wall..that led to her collapse.  U can't state as fact that we supplied AQ or funded Bin Laden unless u have some proof...CT websites that cobble together facts with supposition..or find murkey deep throats does not count.

The CIA helped train the Mujihadeen, you know that.
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