Croach, let's set something straight here. I agree with you on a lot of things regarding drugs. However, guys like Dorian Yates would have still been the best BB around without drugs. In fact, Dorian went on record saying he wished that drugs weren't a part of BBing because then the sport would get more recognition. Cutler went on drugs not because he couldn't gain naturally, but because that was the reality of what he needed to do to compete at the level he does now. Don't lump together people like Coleman, Cutler, and Yates with Dillet and Wheeler, both of whom relied solely on drugs.