Author Topic: ECA duration (Read 3236 times)

dalkiel · « **on:** December 28, 2007, 02:27:38 AM »

Should i take it daily whether I workout or not OR, should I take it only on the days I train?

The Master · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2007, 05:52:38 AM »

Don't take it at all.

benz · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2007, 05:54:11 AM »

take 1 pill/day

Montague · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2007, 07:39:32 AM »

Stay away from the "A."

Asprin = some bad mojo
&
its effectiveness (necessity) in the stack is highly questionable/doubtful.

Emmortal · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2007, 10:34:52 AM »

There have been a few recent studies (on pubmed if you are interested) that show that the addition of aspirin to the ephedrine and caffiene does nothing for fat loss.

Most people do 30mgs of ephedrine + 200mgs of caffiene first thing in the morning or before your workout.

claymore · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2007, 10:52:23 AM »

Quote from: dalkiel on December 28, 2007, 02:27:38 AM

Should i take it daily whether I workout or not OR, should I take it only on the days I train?

I would only take it on the days you train, also ditch the aspirin

busyB · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2007, 11:00:17 AM »

The reason for the addition of aspirin is to thin the blood and prolong the effect.

White Willow Bark is an herbal alternative. However, this is not based on any studies, just "theory"

candidizzle · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2007, 12:34:30 PM »

Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by substaining elevated cAMP levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack

i always use aspirin when i take ephedrine/caffiene...just use the childrens dosage of 81 mg.

also...i always add in some green tea extract, l-carnitine, and yohimbe hcl. ...the green tea extends and amplifies the eca stack, the l-carnitine SUPPOSEDLY helps you burn fat more effeciently(im not sure...but i have a few bottles so why not use it?), and the yohimbe helps increase blood flow to the "stubborn areas" of fat, and also ramps up your thyroidjust a bit.

Montague · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2007, 12:38:15 PM »

While on the topic of prolonging the effect, consider using a sulfate form of ephedrine.
Compared to the HCL form, sulfate is absorbed more slowly & completely.

Emmortal · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2007, 05:41:58 PM »

I think someone also mentioned in one of the other threads about drinking grapefruit juice to help with absorption (can't recall who it was exactly to give credit).

And yea, I know why they aspirin is added to the stack, but I'll try to dig the studies up that showed that a group taking EC and one taking ECA were the same when it came to fat loss.

Montague · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2007, 08:11:21 PM »

I also read something similar.

Princess L · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2007, 08:27:43 PM »

Quote from: dalkiel on December 28, 2007, 02:27:38 AM

Should i take it daily whether I workout or not OR, should I take it only on the days I train?

Why are you taking it?

Quote from: benz on December 28, 2007, 05:54:11 AM

take 1 pill/day

Depends on why he is taking it.

Quote from: Emmortal on December 30, 2007, 05:41:58 PM

And yea, I know why they aspirin is added to the stack, but I'll try to dig the studies up that showed that a group taking EC and one taking ECA were the same when it came to fat loss.

^ that is true.

dalkiel · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2007, 09:58:18 PM »

Why am i taking it?

To reduce the last few pockets of fat (read - love handles) cardio doesnt seem to be removing. I'm also revamping my nutrition intake

dalkiel · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2007, 10:05:12 PM »

I should mention that currently I'm taking 1 pill (15mg) + 1 cup of coffee. I haven't included asprin yet.

How about using dextrose (in the coffee) to speed absorption?

I've been taking it for 2 days so far (both workouts) and I'm off it today since I'm not planning on working out.

I've read elsewhere that I should stop the EC stack after 18-20 days because its effectiveness reduces/stops after a certain point. Any comments?

candidizzle · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:23:44 AM »

Quote from: dalkiel on December 30, 2007, 10:05:12 PM

I should mention that currently I'm taking 1 pill (15mg) + 1 cup of coffee. I haven't included asprin yet.

How about using dextrose (in the coffee) to speed absorption?

I've been taking it for 2 days so far (both workouts) and I'm off it today since I'm not planning on working out.

I've read elsewhere that I should stop the EC stack after 18-20 days because its effectiveness reduces/stops after a certain point. Any comments?

no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!

you dont want to spike insulin levels AT ALL before doing your cardio.

you should give yourself a break from it once a week, and every few weeks you should take a week off. this keeps your body fresh and prevents any dependance, tolerance to the drug.

Slintowin4424 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:51:30 PM »

Eca is not bad it was used for many years but their are things better now.......

Emmortal · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:00:00 PM »

Yup, DNP, T3/Clen combo is pretty good too. I haven't tried DNP, there can be some crazy sides with it though which is why I've stayed away from it.

Deadpool · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:22:15 PM »

ECA rocks!!! unbelievable. really.

g101 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:23:19 PM »

if ECA stack stopped working then everyone with asthma would die... think about it retards.. my advice stay on it as long as you want till you want to remain dry

gtbro1 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:24:21 PM »

Take the aspirin to prevent a heart attack..lol

Deadpool · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:26:18 PM »

I can't tell you how different it is to be on ECA with the green tea extract and the grapefruit juice...wow.

gtbro1 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:32:50 PM »

Quote from: Medford on January 05, 2008, 04:26:18 PM

I can't tell you how different it is to be on ECA with the green tea extract and the grapefruit juice...wow.

I used to start so many projects while speed buzz'n...I would get off work at 4:00 and be all wound up and get a "great idea" to do something,then about 10 at night the speed buzz would be worn off and I would have everything from inside the garage out in the backyard cause I decided to clean out the garage...and have to just pile it back in because it was too late/dark to finish.