CARDIO ONLY or WEIGHTS ALSO with losing fat?

[Devon97]

For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio.  Period.  Not unless you have genetics that are ridiculous and are on a ton of stuff for metabolism.  It will not happen.  Keep training just as intensely with weights (even moreso if possible) and do at least 45 minutes of cardio 5 days per week (minimum) either first thing in the morning or several hours after you've had some carbs.  If you are weight training, do all your weight training first then hit all cardio afterwards.

Anyone who tells you that you can be "ripped" without doing cardio is:

1.  Delusional
2.  Has never been ripped
3.  Is all drugs
4.  Believes the garbage they read in magazines

You have to work...hard.  Period.  There is no easy way out when it comes to getting lean.

BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.

[danielson]

BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.

Thats pretty low bf. What kind of lifestyle do you lead? Desk job? Construction? etc.

[KillerMonk]

BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.

Agree 100% Cardio is a tool not a neccessity

[SteelePegasus]

Lose weight over a longer period of time without cardio and a proper eating plan.Low calorie defecit.

your advice is too complicated, lack drugs and the eating of non seasoned foods

[KillerMonk]

your advice is too complicated, lack drugs and the eating of non seasoned foods

Plenty of reefer and a calorie defecit diet over say 6 months will lose me 55 pounds while holding onto my muscle without cardio.

You guessed it i,m FAT 27%bf, my new years resolution.

[busyB]

If the poster is genetically prone to fatness, only a strict diet will maintain him in a better shape, if he doesnt use any drugs , all he can do is a diet = control his nutrition but i guess people like you who are used to inject shit since decades dont even know what it means anymore.

 i assume you re a longtime gear user, so why talk about losing weight with people who can only do it the natural way?
it makes no sense at all. 

guy asked how to lose fat, he gave him a way to achieve his goal by folowing a strict and easy diet (and anyone with some brains understood he would have to do it for months )and never mentioned it had to be followed til his dying day, even if everyone know its how it works.
For a natural, staying in shape takes a lot of discipline and drive, its an everyday job, especially if your genetics are shit ; so the diet candizizle proposed is the realistic way to go.

The basics to lose weight and keep fatness low are; chicken /turkey and vegetables , water and physical activity, yes thats how it works in the "natural" world.

I will give you the benifit of the doubt seeing that you are new. Candi's advice is not sound, unrealistic and does not work in the real world. The diet he proposed will fail in 9/10 people.

As for decades of injecting shit, takes more than drugs to succeed in losing bodyfat. Natural or not, we all have to do the same things to lose bodyfat and is an everyday job for either..

1.) Reasonable, realistic Diet
2.) Cardio, Weights
3.) Rest, Repeat.

K.I.S.S- Keep it simple STUPID!

[Luv2Hurt]

Plenty of reefer and a calorie defecit diet over say 6 months will lose me 55 pounds while holding onto my muscle without cardio.

You guessed it i,m FAT 27%bf, my new years resolution.

Dude that aint gonna happen you know Mary, she always give you the munchiees 

[KillerMonk]

Dude that aint gonna happen you know Mary, she always give you the munchiees 

I,ll eat Rice Cakes

[candidizzle]

I will give you the benifit of the doubt seeing that you are new. Candi's advice is not sound, unrealistic and does not work in the real world. The diet he proposed will fail in 9/10 people.

As for decades of injecting shit, takes more than drugs to succeed in losing bodyfat. Natural or not, we all have to do the same things to lose bodyfat and is an everyday job for either..

1.) Reasonable, realistic Diet
2.) Cardio, Weights
3.) Rest, Repeat.

K.I.S.S- Keep it simple STUPID!

AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.

if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.   

its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long.  and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.

[SteelePegasus]

AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.

if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.   

its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long.  and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.

didn't you confess to being so addicted to coke that you stole money from your mom and cashed company checks not belonging to you

and that doing coke first thing in the morning was your only reason for waking up..all of this while being 75lbs over weight..

    "self control and dedication"

[candidizzle]

didn't you confess to being so addicted to coke that you stole money from your mom and cashed company checks not belonging to you

and that doing coke first thing in the morning was your only reason for waking up..all of this while being 75lbs over weight..

    "self control and dedication"

how does my past drug addiction at all relate to the discussion at hand? it does not. ...unless, of course, you are implying that all the fat people need is to go to "food rehab", and then they would be able to quit cold turkey and never look at junk fod again...then i would say; maybe, you have got something there.

[busyB]

AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.

if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.   

its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long.  and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.

You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.

Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.

People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.

PS- learn to use Spell Check please

[SteelePegasus]

You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.

Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.

People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.

PS- learn to use Spell Check please

I have asked him many time to post pics of the body that following his own advice has given him...he hasn't and won't

[candidizzle]

You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.

Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.

People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.

PS- learn to use Spell Check please

blah blah blah...you know what i hear ?

"i am old! no one that is not old canot know something that someone who is old knows! i fear youth, i fear change, i fear knowledge that contradicts what i have always thought!! i am old! you are young!!"

^^^^thats what i hear.


somebody needs to check the date on your label...cuz i think you just EXPIRED!!! ahahaha

[busyB]

blah blah blah...you know what i hear ?

"i am old! no one that is not old canot know something that someone who is old knows! i fear youth, i fear change, i fear knowledge that contradicts what i have always thought!! i am old! you are young!!"

^^^^thats what i hear.


somebody needs to check the date on your label...cuz i think you just EXPIRED!!! ahahaha

You know what you little fuck, you are a true spoiled brat.

You know what I hear, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about and are tying to fit in so badly that you are making yourself look like an idiot. I have been nicely trying to make you understand, but there is no use, you are a tool!!

Age has nothing to do with knowledge. I would give you props if you deserved it but you are confused and need guidance. I know lots of young people and do not fear anyone. I actually have two employees that are 19 and know WAYYYY more than you do at this point about nutrition and training. Come out here and I will give you a lesson as well.

I hope you parents got you for Christmas a gift certificate to a shrink you whack job.

[SF1900]

If you eat six meals of chicken, this is what happens to you! You turn into one



In all seriousness, if someone owned a personal training business and told their clients to eat 6 meals of chicken a day, most of the people would either: A) fail at the diet or B) quit and go to another personal training business.

As stated before, I am not a nutritional guru, but I am sure you can lose weight just as fast eating a variety of foods and not just chicken!

[SteelePegasus]

I have asked him many time to post pics of the body that following his own advice has given him...he hasn't and won't

[FinnPilot]

 

[Devon97]

Thats pretty low bf. What kind of lifestyle do you lead? Desk job? Construction? etc.

PM me bro

[SteelePegasus]

I know that he doesn't look like that now, but you wouldn't think that someone that eats chicken breast and brocolli 6 times per day that he would be shredded and be able to post a pic show a practical application of his "theories"


yet, he can't


I am 35, balding, eats McDonalds as often as I can..stop taking all supplements 3 months, drink a bottle of baileys irish creme every couple of days and still don't look as fat as he does.

[busyB]

I know that he doesn't look like that now, but you wouldn't think that someone that eats chicken breast and brocolli 6 times per day that he would be shredded and be able to post a pic show a practical application of his "theories"


yet, he can't


I am 35, balding, eats McDonalds as often as I can..stop taking all supplements 3 months, drink a bottle of baileys irish creme every couple of days and still don't look as fat as he does.

He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.

I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.

[SteelePegasus]

He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.

I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.

here is the little shit stain!!!

his current pics look like crap..

[busyB]

And the famous sunken side chest!

[FinnPilot]

He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.

I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.

Don't get me wrong, i give him props too for the weight loss, but then again i don't have lots of respect towards him after the attitude his having here. I mean, his yelling "i can't understand people who don't have any will power", when if somebody, HE (as the picture shows) should know what it's like

[Van_Bilderass]

For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio.  Period.  Not unless you have genetics that are ridiculous and are on a ton of stuff for metabolism.  It will not happen.  Keep training just as intensely with weights (even moreso if possible) and do at least 45 minutes of cardio 5 days per week (minimum) either first thing in the morning or several hours after you've had some carbs.  If you are weight training, do all your weight training first then hit all cardio afterwards.

Anyone who tells you that you can be "ripped" without doing cardio is:

1.  Delusional
2.  Has never been ripped
3.  Is all drugs
4.  Believes the garbage they read in magazines

You have to work...hard.  Period.  There is no easy way out when it comes to getting lean.

That's bullshit, cardio is basically just a tool to increase deficit. And little is gained by doing cardio in a fasted state.