Author Topic: Pats make history (Read 4231 times)

body88 · « **on:** December 29, 2007, 08:25:40 PM »

16 - 0 IN THE SALERY CAP ERA

Moss all time rd record

Brady all time td record

The superbowl is the real prize. This is just a perk. That said what the pats have just done has to be acknowledged. UNREAL!

Hate away haters!!!! For those who love football what we have seen my never been seen again.

CalvinH · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2007, 08:35:50 PM »

GREAT JOB BY THE PATS

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:18:01 PM »

Quote from: body88 on December 29, 2007, 08:25:40 PM

may never been seen again.

gtbro1 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:26:43 PM »

Damn it

I was already planning my thread about them being beaten by a "Manning"

I wanted the Giants to win because it is illegal in Indiana to root for the Patriots.

That was A GREAT GAME. Brady and the Pats showed why they are the best team in years...but you gota give NY some credit they almost pulled it off. I think Brian/ Bryant whatever Gumble should never be allowed anywhere near a football game...I can't stand listening to him.

Manning's fumble and pick really helped to destroy the Giants momentum. Then in the fourth he acted as if he had all damnnight to score...idiot. Granted, I don't think it would have mattered any, cause once Brady got the ball back it would have been over, but still...he used up like 3 minutes of time to get that TD and was using the whole play clock each time. The other Manning would have played much differently.

Anyway...BRAVO Patriots.

P.S. I still can't believe the finger poke to the eye thing...that guy needs a fine or something...uncalled for.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:46:03 PM »

Incredible team accomplishment by the Pats. Going 16-0 is fantastic.

But........

It don't mean a thing without the ring!

(well, it does but anything less a Super Bowl win and the season goes all for not.)

gtbro1 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:58:06 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 29, 2007, 09:46:03 PM

Incredible team accomplishment by the Pats. Going 16-0 is fantastic.

But........

It don't mean a thing without the ring!

(well, it does but anything less a Super Bowl win and the season goes all for not.)

I am not taking anything away from them at all, because they earned it.Great Ball team. ..but it wasn't easy for them.I think the Giants shocked some people tonight and the Indianapolis game could have very easily went the other way. Not trying to make excuses but Indy was playing without some key players, mostly Marvin Harrison. NE may have been also, I can't remember I think body said they were...but the point is, they are gona have to get past Indy again to go to the SB,(hopefully we make it that far $:-\$ )...they have home field so odds are in their favor. As long as there isn't 3 ft of snow and bitter cold weather it will be a great game( if we both make it there of coarse)

Good job Patriots..congrats.

Gym dude · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2007, 10:03:28 PM »

Very amazing achivement by the Pats. I didn't see the game because I live on the other side of the world but I read about the game on the TSN web site.Brad very amazing also Moss very amazing.The Pats are the only team that I like from the New Eangland area.GO THE MIGHTY PATS in the playoffs.The Pats are coming to the Super Bowl.

gtbro1 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2007, 10:11:07 PM »

Quote from: Gym dude on December 29, 2007, 10:03:28 PM

.The Pats are coming to the Super Bowl.

Not if Indianapolis can help it.

It sucks that the two best teams ( in my opinion)are in the same conference/ division whatever the hell ya call it.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:36:43 AM »

They're going to lose their first playoff game

Bank on it... Douchbags finish last

gtbro1 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:47:41 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on December 30, 2007, 01:36:43 AM

They're going to lose their first playoff game Bank on it... Douchbags finish last

Who? Pats or Colts?

Decker · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2007, 07:58:18 AM »

A great game and a great season. I'm glad I was around to see it happen. On to the playoffs!

body88 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2007, 09:23:19 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on December 29, 2007, 09:18:01 PM

Going 16 - 0 in the regular season could very well never be seen again. With the constant increase in the salary cap and free agency going 16 - 0 is this day is age is extremley difficult. It will only get harder. The last team that went undeafeated was the 72 dolphins. There was only 14 games in a season , no salery cap, no free agency , they played i a great climate and they only played one team with a winning record.

I am not trying to gloat. Obv I am a huge pats fan. But I am also a huge football fan. I am shocked they went undeafeated. Aside from winning 16 straight games , they are human. They get tired. The lose some motivation. Hate him or not Belichick did a amazing job keeping them focused. Every team gave them there best shot this year.

body88 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2007, 09:25:28 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 29, 2007, 09:46:03 PM

Incredible team accomplishment by the Pats. Going 16-0 is fantastic.

But........

It don't mean a thing without the ring!

(well, it does but anything less a Super Bowl win and the season goes all for not.)

I agree with you to a point. The superbowl is the real prize. That said going 16 - 0 , scoring the most points in a NFL season ever and setting numerous all time records would not make the season all for not.

That said if the pats dont win it all I will be dissapointed to say the least. The colts are a tough team that is vastly underrated this year. If they win it they will have earned it.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2007, 09:44:29 AM »

Great season and incredible accomplishment. I doubt we ever see it again. They barely got it done this year. Very difficult to do.

I don't like the fact Moss broke Rice's TD record. Rice's old record is still more impressive, but I hate to see a terd like Moss break it.

JBGRAY · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2007, 11:12:51 AM »

Awesome. And they beat the best teams in the NFL along the way..the Colts, Steelers, Chargers, and Cowboys. They had a pretty tough schedule, outside the Dolphins and Jets. Now it look like they'll probably have to play either Jax or Pittsburgh again in the 2nd round...then the Colts...then either the Cowboys or Packers. They still have a lotta work to do.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 30, 2007, 11:18:50 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 29, 2007, 09:46:03 PM

Incredible team accomplishment by the Pats. Going 16-0 is fantastic.

But........

It don't mean a thing without the ring!

(well, it does but anything less a Super Bowl win and the season goes all for not.)

I agree

16 - 0 is huge though

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UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2007, 12:01:40 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on December 30, 2007, 09:44:29 AM

Great season and incredible accomplishment. I doubt we ever see it again. They barely got it done this year. Very difficult to do.

I don't like the fact Moss broke Rice's TD record. Rice's old record is still more impressive, but I hate to see a terd like Moss break it.

Exactly right. Rice set the previous record of 22 td grabs in only 12 games(strike shortened season) in 1987. On 65 catches, no less. I think his record is much more impressive considering he did it only 12 games.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2007, 12:05:07 PM »

Quote from: body88 on December 30, 2007, 09:25:28 AM

I agree with you to a point. The superbowl is the real prize. That said going 16 - 0 , scoring the most points in a NFL season ever and setting numerous all time records would not make the season all for not.
That said if the pats dont win it all I will be dissapointed to say the least. The colts are a tough team that is vastly underrated this year. If they win it they will have earned it.

Yes, it would. Try getting one Pats player to agree with you if they lose in the playoffs.

The ring is what counts.

Look at this way: If team goes 10-6 and ends up winning the Superbowl versus a team like the Pats who go 16-0 and loses in the playoffs, well......

What team would you have rather been a part of? Serioulsy though, going 16-0 is unreal in today's salary cap era and I'm not trying to degrade in anyway. But if I was a player, I want the ring, period.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2007, 12:20:51 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on December 30, 2007, 11:18:50 AM

I agree

16 - 0 is huge though

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Earl agrees with me? Wonders never cease.

body88 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2007, 12:56:09 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 30, 2007, 12:05:07 PM

Yes, it would. Try getting one Pats player to agree with you if they lose in the playoffs.

The ring is what counts.

Look at this way: If team goes 10-6 and ends up winning the Superbowl versus a team like the Pats who go 16-0 and loses in the playoffs, well......

What team would you have rather been a part of? Serioulsy though, going 16-0 is unreal in today's salary cap era and I'm not trying to degrade in anyway. But if I was a player, I want the ring, period.

I said the superbowl was the real prize. But to say going 16 - 0 , scoring the most points ever , and setting numerous NFL all time records would be a waste of a season is a massive stretch imo.

My point was not that 16 - 0 is better then a superbowl , it was that all the things the pats have done this season = a lot more then a wasted season if they don't win it.

body88 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:01:47 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 30, 2007, 12:01:40 PM

Exactly right. Rice set the previous record of 22 td grabs in only 12 games(strike shortened season) in 1987. On 65 catches, no less. I think his record is much more impressive considering he did it only 12 games.

I agree with you. What Rice did was more impressive. Rice is the greatest ever.

On the same token IMO I think what Brady did was most impressive. 50 td's to 8 ints playing outside in New England weather. Marino played in south Florida and Manning in a dome. Not to mention he has only been playing with 3 of his four receivers 16 weeks. Normally it takes years to build trust/feel between receiver's and a QB. Couple that with the fact Moss was considered a washed up trouble maker not worth a fourth round pick , Welker was a unknown , and Gaffney was a caste off from the texans who has been playing with the pats for not even 2 full seasons.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:34:05 PM »

Quote from: body88 on December 30, 2007, 12:56:09 PM

I said the superbowl was the real prize. But to say going 16 - 0 , scoring the most points ever , and setting numerous NFL all time records would be a waste of a season is a massive stretch imo.

My point was not that 16 - 0 is better then a superbowl , it was that all the things the pats have done this season = a lot more then a wasted season if they don't win it.

Got it. I'm with you on that.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:39:58 PM »

Quote from: body88 on December 30, 2007, 01:01:47 PM

I agree with you. What Rice did was more impressive. Rice is the greatest ever.

On the same token IMO I think what Brady did was most impressive. 50 td's to 8 ints playing outside in New England weather. Marino played in south Florida and Manning in a dome. Not to mention he has only been playing with 3 of his four receivers 16 weeks. Normally it takes years to build trust/feel between receiver's and a QB. Couple that with the fact Moss was considered a washed up trouble maker not worth a fourth round pick , Welker was a unknown , and Gaffney was a caste off from the texans who has been playing with the pats for not even 2 full seasons.

Again, we agree. The weather factor is always something I took into consideration for passing records.

Did you agree with the vast majority before this season started that Moss was washed up? I thought it had to do more with the QB play in Oakland. The guy is a freak. Even at 30 years old he's on top of his game by far. In fact, this season more than demonstrates that's he's still in his prime.

OzmO · « **Reply #23 on:** December 30, 2007, 04:42:19 PM »

Hats off to the Pats!

They earned every game they won especially this last one.

It was a great game to watch.

body88 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2007, 05:01:43 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 30, 2007, 01:39:58 PM

Again, we agree. The weather factor is always something I took into consideration for passing records.

Did you agree with the vast majority before this season started that Moss was washed up? I thought it had to do more with the QB play in Oakland. The guy is a freak. Even at 30 years old he's on top of his game by far. In fact, this season more than demonstrates that's he's still in his prime.

I thought Moss was going to be a cancer in the locker room. I didn't want him. man oh man was I 100 percent wrong on all counts.

The media can do a lot to vilify someone.

Oh btw you where 100 percent right about Asante. I forgot to tell you I was wrong about that to. He is elite. Truly elite.