are you honestly insane? im not kidding. the first two arguments are not even arguments but opinions. just look at this non sense. its obvious from the glaring reviews of his ridiculous post that beleivers need little to be swayed, what a shock.
"And you don't seem to flinch when hearing about the male Hebrews, slaughtered by the Egyptians. Or, the little fact that Pharoah had nine other opportunities to release the Israelites, before the plague hit the firstborn of Egypt. And you seem to conveniently ignore those ethnic groups (deal with by God) attacked Israel unprovoked for centuries. But, I get it now, Israel is supposed to get attacked mercilessly, century after century, to which folks like you will howl and yak about "Where is God?" Yet, when the Almighty has had enough and renders judgment on those oppressing His people, now all of a sudden, He's too cruel and harsh."
ok mcway, god knows the future. hence if he does free will doesnt exist as our lives are pre determined. also, the fact that he created the first murderers or the egyptians knowing that they would kill totally puts the burden on your god. your argument is like arguing that a person choose downsyndrome. god created the egyptians knowing what would happen as he can see into the future, allowed them to murder according to the script he laid out then decided to slay them. you cant have free will and a god who knows the future. you cant have free will and a god who intervenes, your belief is wrought with contradiction. your god is missing in times of suffering, and when something good happens you attribute it to god. if you attribute miracles to god then you also must attribute atroscities to him as well, as there are no real criteria for choice other the personal preference.
Once again, your complaints stem from your warped premise that free will means absence of consequences for certain behavior. What you want is freedom without responsibility or accountability. That will not happen on any level, God or no God.
With regards to the Egypt thing, Pharoah had the option of releasing the Hebrews nine times, before the tenth and most devastating plague hit. He chose not to heed God's warning through Moses. Therefore, he and his people suffered as a result.
As for your claims of not being able to have free will, if God intervenes, that is patently false, especially when (in the majority of the cases), divine intervention occurs at the REQUEST of the believer. There is a verse in Deut. (I think it's 30:19) that states that God sets before His people life and death, blessings and curses, and He advises them to choose blessings. If you, by your own actions, choose the curses, that's on YOU, not God, or anyone else.
Furthermore, wherever you're getting this idea that God is absent in suffering but present in good times, I'd suggest you take that back. Job said it best, despite the suffering he endured, he acknowledged the presence of God,
"Naked I came into this world and naked I will leave; the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord".As long as there is sin in this world, there will be suffering. And, as I've stated on numerous occasions, the worst part about sin is that the suffering isn't limited to the transgressors. Other people can suffer, as a result of your sins (and mine). And I can suffer, from other people's sins, as can you.
Also ranking high on the ridiculous scale is your claim that life is pointless, if God knows the future. To the contrary, I would ask if there is no God, what is the point of life, simply to survive? If that's it, then life indeed is pointless, because NOBODY SURVIVES. Death comes to everybody, whether by disease, murder, accident, or our mortal bodies simply giving out. Nobody gets out of life alive.
i think beleivers misunderstand, of course not all on either side. i dont care if you attribute "miracles" to god but what i do care about is these same believers giving god the free pass when children are burned alive. you cant have your cake and eat it too. what are your criteria for determining which actions god is involved in and which to exclude him from? if there are none, which i know there are not other then blind faith and irrationality then its a worthless argument.
your god participates in murder, hence cannot be all loving, and his commandment is thou shall not kill. he is also a hypocrite.
The only One who has a right to end life is He who gave life in the first place. Man is God's creation; He can do what He pleases with what is His. Man is instructed not to murder, because he cannot give life to anyone. Any instruction that man is given to end another man's life is for a specific purpose, usually a major trangression of His law (i.e. rape, adultery, murder, persecution of His people, etc.).