50 lb gain - Can he accomplish without steroids?

[dantelis]

This guy wants to gain 50 lbs of muscle to get from around 165-170 lbs right now to 215 - 220 lbs at 5'11''.  Think he can do it without steroids?  He says he has gotten to 200 muscled pounds in the past, so this would be an added 15-20 lbs beyond his personal best.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/health-fitness/14232-bodybuilding-journal-my-quest-gain-50lbs-muscle.html

[Bluto]

would be easier to comment if he had a pic up

[Rami]

What a shame, why would anyone want to add 50lbs to the constant gravitational pull.

[musclehedz]

Gaining mass shoudn't be a problem. Keeping all the mass naturally is impossible. That's when steroids show their strength. 

[emn1964]

Almost anyone can gain 50 pounds.  The real question is how much of that 50 will be muscle and how much will be fat.

[Rimbaud]

What's his time frame?

[dantelis]

What's his time frame?

He doesn't say.

[mitchyboy]

Yes it can be done. Cutting up will be the hard part Hard not to lose the muscle

[m8]

of muscle? no.

[Special Ed]

How can they call it a "Forum for Smart People" when they have an ad for "The Secret"??

Sounds more like a "Forum for People who Like to Think They're Smart but are actually Dumb Enough to Buy Mail Order Success Crap"

[beatmaster]

i don't think so, normally, it's around 15 pounds of good muscles a year naturally (good diet)

[tleilaxutank]

No

Any other questions?

[buffbong]

yes it is very attainable. after the first few years wieght gains come slower. natrually i wouldnt put on more than ten pounds of new bodywieght a year. 7 will be muscle and about 3 fat if u eat a good diet.  now dieting and getting in contest shape is a whole diffrent story. natrually most people lose a great deal of size while dieting.

[Croatch]

It depends on the current diet and regiment at hand, the age, and the timeframe in which to gain it.
I personally, could not gain more than 10lbs of lean mass naturally today...in a year.  Stop training for a few years, have a shitty diet, then gain 40lbs...very possible, especially with some muscle memory.  If you have the calories and train hard, size after 25yrs old, isn't that hard.  Gaining 20lbs at 18 naturally...very tough.

[240 is Back]

i gained 50 pounds in one summer, living on Golden Corral buffets and Taco Bell, and doing nothing but squats and deadlifts.

When i leaned out, I learned that it was 10 pounds of muscle, and 40 pounds of fat and water.

if the dude was 200 already, then he can reach a previously held level fairly quickly.  But 50 pounds of muscle gain will take a natural 10 years.

[Croatch]

i gained 50 pounds in one summer, living on Golden Corral buffets and Taco Bell, and doing nothing but squats and deadlifts.

When i leaned out, I learned that it was 10 pounds of muscle, and 40 pounds of fat and water.

if the dude was 200 already, then he can reach a previously held level fairly quickly.  But 50 pounds of muscle gain will take a natural 10 years.

50 pounds is almost unattainable naturally, if you've been training and dieting for years already.  So, the chances of me being 250lbs lean...better chance of playing in the NBA.  I'll probably only get to 215lbs very lean...maybe, in a few years.

[240 is Back]

50 pounds is almost unattainable naturally, if you've been training and dieting for years already.  So, the chances of me being 250lbs lean...better chance of playing in the NBA.  I'll probably only get to 215lbs very lean...maybe, in a few years.

croatch, didn't you go from 160 to 210 in those original pics that you posted here?

[Pete Nice]

croatch, didn't you go from 160 to 210 in those original pics that you posted here?

Croatch did make one hell of a transformation...props

[EL Mariachi]

It  is possible if you eat 6 times x 35 gr protein a day, and the trainign needs to be intense. This eneds to be done day in day out, thats the main thing that seperates bodybuilders not genetics.

[triple_pickle]

i am 5'11 and was around 170-175 before picking a weight.  right now, after 3 years of training i am a little bit above 220, don't claim it is all pure muscle but anyway i would say 50 lbs is attainable in a reasonable time frame.

[dantelis]

i am 5'11 and was around 170-175 before picking a weight.  right now, after 3 years of training i am a little bit above 220, don't claim it is all pure muscle but anyway i would say 50 lbs is attainable in a reasonable time frame.

Just curious...how old are you?  As someone mentioned earlier, if you are younger and just starting out, you can usually make big gains, cause your body is prepped to grow and really takes to the training.  It is much harder to gain that 50 lbs when you are a bit older.

Also, did you take any supps to gain this 50 lbs?

I think that they guy could gain 50 lbs, just not sure how much of the 50 lbs would be muscle.  It'll be interesting to see if this guy keeps posting his progress as time goes by.

[Rimbaud]

He doesn't say.

Without a timeframe it's really hard to say.

It would also depend on his age. Putting on "any old" 50lbs would be easy but putting on 50 lean pounds naturally would be very very hard if not impossible.

[triple_pickle]

Just curious...how old are you? 

28 when started, 31 now

Also, did you take any supps to gain this 50 lbs?

not much, protein powder, and some dextrose & maltodextrin as a workout energy drink, i stick to real food for the most part

[20inch calves]

i don't think so, normally, it's around 15 pounds of good muscles a year naturally (good diet)

and 15lbs in a year is pushing it unless you are a newbie to lifting

[SteelePegasus]

OnlyMe adds 50lbs after diner..no big deal