Actually, I think you are wrong about Munzer...Munzer was the most conditioned and striated bodybuilder I have ever seen...striations aren't that important in today's bodybuilding, but back in the 80's you had to be really conditioned and shredded to where you could see every individual muscle and the individual cut in the muscle, or you might as well not have shown up to the contest...trying to reach and maintain that condition cost him his life unfortunately.....