Squats!

[ironneck]

who else has pain in the lower back after doing heavy sets?
i really do them clean and proper with a straight back but it still hurts a day after..
i really think of not doing them anymore...you think it will hurt my legs workout?

[SteelePegasus]

do them on the smith machine or use the hack squat..train your muscles not your ego

[Camel Jockey]

Learn proper form and your lowerback will be fine..

Also, alternate deads every week so you don't murder your lower back.

[ironneck]

do them on the smith machine or use the hack squat..train your muscles not your ego

i thought about doing them on the smith machine but do you think one can get the same results?
or is the whole "you have to squat to get big" thing way to overrated?

[Stubborn]

Leg press.

[ironneck]

Learn proper form and your lowerback will be fine..

Also, alternate deads every week so you don't murder your lower back.

i really do them proper but the combination of squats and deadlifts kills my back...

[ironneck]

Leg press.

usually i do both...first squats then the legpress

[Bobby]

Leg press.

legpress = awesome

[Overload]

i really do them proper but the combination of squats and deadlifts kills my back...

In the same workout?

[Cleanest Natural]

who else has pain in the lower back after doing heavy sets?
i really do them clean and proper with a straight back but it still hurts a day after..
i really think of not doing them anymore...you think it will hurt my legs workout?

[ironneck]

In the same workout?

no not in the same^^

[ironneck]

i own you bitchass sev..

[joelocal]

who else has pain in the lower back after doing heavy sets?
i really do them clean and proper with a straight back but it still hurts a day after..
i really think of not doing them anymore...you think it will hurt my legs workout?

If you still want to squat without irritating your back as much, switch to box squats. Don't do a touch and go, go down, sit and come back up with a forward pelvic tilt, by doing this you will not only develop more power, but also strengthin hip flexors but low back as well.

[JasonH]

My lower back tends to hurt more on deadlifts than squats.

Probably because I did deadlifts with shit form when I first started training.

[BFP]

Try lowering the bar position on your back and drive your head back into the bar.  Make sure you are doing something to strengthen your abs, not just tone them.

Jason

[Julio Ceasar]

My advice would be. Don't quit doing squats and deadlift. Just give your body the time it need to recover. Sooner or later your pain will go away. Just quit doing them is the easy way out.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

do them on the smith machine or use the hack squat..train your muscles not your ego

  Obviously you don't know shit about lifting.

Squatting in smith = asking for injuries.

[XFACTOR]

If you still want to squat without irritating your back as much, switch to box squats. Don't do a touch and go, go down, sit and come back up with a forward pelvic tilt, by doing this you will not only develop more power, but also strengthin hip flexors but low back as well.

I'll try this.  As we speak I'm sitting in my office with lower back pain from squats.  I assume you use less weight?

[XFACTOR]

Obviously you don't know shit about lifting.

Squatting in smith = asking for injuries.

Really?  I also thought the smith was easier on the back.

[The Squadfather]

Really?  I also thought the smith was easier on the back.

the problem with the Smith is that you run into what some expert called "pattern overload" or something where you're on a fixed plane, i don't know about all that but the advantage of teh Smith is that you can throw your feet out in front of you and keep your back totally straight but barbell squats are definitely more of a natural movement.

[joelocal]

I'll try this.  As we speak I'm sitting in my office with lower back pain from squats.  I assume you use less weight?

I'll answer further later, in the meantime, read my responses from this thread from awhile ago especially reply #8, it will help prevent further injury, I was the coach then.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162586.0

[XFACTOR]

the problem with the Smith is that you run into what some expert called "pattern overload" or something where you're on a fixed plane, i don't know about all that but the advantage of teh Smith is that you can throw your feet out in front of you and keep your back totally straight but barbell squats are definitely more of a natural movement.

I like the idea of throwing my feet further out in front.  Maybe work on my weak quad sweep.  I would bet my form is shit on squats this is why my back hurts.

 You guys encourage belts?   Was reading somewhere that Charles Glass has his guys all wear them no matter what exercise they are doing.

[The Squadfather]

I like the idea of throwing my feet further out in front.  Maybe work on my weak quad sweep.  I would bet my form is shit on squats this is why my back hurts.

 You guys encourage belts?   Was reading somewhere that Charles Glass has his guys all wear them no matter what exercise they are doing.

ALWAYS wear a good belt on squats, invest in a good one and it will last you for decades.

[BFP]

I'll try this.  As we speak I'm sitting in my office with lower back pain from squats.  I assume you use less weight?

lower back pain or muscle soreness?  I get sore, but never have any lower back pain.

Jason

[ironneck]

thanks guys for alle the replies!

i will try jason's advice and if it still hurts i will try doing squats every second week