Author Topic: Pep Talk: Phil Heath will be 15 pounds bigger at the Arnold than last year! (Read 8050 times)

Disgusted · « **Reply #25 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:04:03 PM »

Quote from: On_Swole on January 21, 2008, 10:53:16 PM

Yes, I do.

I never mentioned the '06 AC.

Never said you did and I never mentioned the other shows that you mentioned.

donrhummy · « **Reply #26 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:07:01 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 07:24:31 PM

Dex is 230 @ 5'5
Phil is gonna be about 230 @ 5'10

Not to mention Dex's back is much better. Dex's condition is legendary, Phil's is not.

Dexter peaked in 2003 (and looked amazing that year) and has gone backwards since. His condition's gotten worse, his gut has expanded and his size is down a little too.

LATS · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:11:09 PM »

wow.. every one seems to know dexters weight and height ect

.. dexter is a shade over 5'6.. and like i said before, never over 220-22 contest shape.. if dexter ever comes in at his 5'6 and weights 235, it will be lights out for everyone .. but, he eats liek a bird and that will never happen..

Disgusted · « **Reply #28 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:13:17 PM »

Quote from: LATS on January 21, 2008, 11:11:09 PM

wow.. every one seems to know dexters weight and height ect .. dexter is a shade over 5'6.. and like i said before, never over 220-22 contest shape.. if dexter ever comes in at his 5'6 and weights 235, it will be lights out for everyone .. but, he eats liek a bird and that will never happen..

I agree on that one. Dexter at 235 would be freaky, BUT he's naturally bout 165 and is maxed out on size. I give him props for the amount of size he actually has achieved.

England_1 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:14:07 PM »

We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?

The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.

Disgusted · « **Reply #30 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:19:27 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 11:14:07 PM

We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?

The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.

Fars I know Heath weighed about 212 last year at the AC. I for one don't understand why all the hype and exaggeration about their weight. Only thing that matters is conditioning the day of the show. In fact, I think that it is even more impressive that Dexter and Heath can look like they do at such at relatively light weight, far more impressive than if they claim 230 or more. $50 bucks says Heath beats Dexter. You up for that?

bigbobs · « **Reply #31 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:36:55 PM »

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Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #32 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:49:56 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 06:56:47 PM

Phil was lucky to weigh 212 last year. If (and I think he will) comes in 15 to 20 pounds heavier, Dexter will not have too much of a chance to beat him.

Do you think Jim that he managed to balance his phisique a bit or just accentuated or even maintained those dicrepancies ( arm-delt-quads too big for chest-back-hams ) ?

Disgusted · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2008, 12:08:08 AM »

Quote from: sevastase on January 21, 2008, 11:49:56 PM

Do you think Jim that he managed to balance his phisique a bit or just accentuated or even maintained those dicrepancies ( arm-delt-quads too big for chest-back-hams ) ?

His arms and delts are always going to be his strong points, but once he brings up his weak points to where they can stand alone then he will be OK. So, it's not so much that his arms and delts are too big for his weak points, it's that his weak points need to be brought up to a certain standard. That make sense?

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2008, 12:21:47 AM »

Quote from: LATS on January 21, 2008, 10:26:57 PM

disgusted is right.. dexter has never competed over 220-222.. the biggest he competed was the 07 olympia and he was a shade over 220.. heck, the biggest dex has ever admitted too was 225 at contest and he was exaggerating a bit.. where did you guys get he weighed over 230 pound contest shape?.. dexter himself , before the 07 olympia, said he was 237 pounds when he started the diet.. that is off season..

...but how much does he look like he weighs..?

m8 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:41:56 AM »

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KillerMonk · « **Reply #36 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:05:59 AM »

Heath with all the Hype edges Dexter out by a few points,I hope its close

240 is Back · « **Reply #37 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:32:04 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on January 21, 2008, 10:29:34 PM

Dexter is 5'3 and 235.

I don't think Dex has ever been 235 in his life.

240 is Back · « **Reply #38 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:33:34 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 21, 2008, 11:19:27 PM

Fars I know Heath weighed about 212 last year at the AC. I for one don't understand why all the hype and exaggeration about their weight. Only thing that matters is conditioning the day of the show. In fact, I think that it is even more impressive that Dexter and Heath can look like they do at such at relatively light weight, far more impressive than if they claim 230 or more. $50 bucks says Heath beats Dexter. You up for that?

Jim, you want to do any wagering on the Ironman?

There's one competitor I am betting will finish out of the top 5... you game?

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:48:09 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 22, 2008, 12:08:08 AM

His arms and delts are always going to be his strong points, but once he brings up his weak points to where they can stand alone then he will be OK. So, it's not so much that his arms and delts are too big for his weak points, it's that his weak points need to be brought up to a certain standard. That make sense?

yeah Jim I get u . He needs to balance his phisique and WHEN he will be complete, he'll give that illusion everyone is chasing...

busyB · « **Reply #40 on:** January 22, 2008, 09:51:02 AM »

Quote from: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 11:14:07 PM

We can sit here and argue all day about height, weight, etc. Who is to say Heath actually weighs what he claims?
The bottom line is that pound for pound Dex is bigger, denser, and more conditioned than Heath has ever been or will be this year. Dex is proven AC champ whereas Heath is not. My money is on Dex.

I can attest I saw Phil step on a scale at Golds Gym when he was in Phoenix last October. Saw with my own eyes, 267 lbs and lean!

Dex was here last July for a guest posing gig and he claimed he weighed 230 lbs. at that time. Not disputing it, just that these guys or all bodybuilders for that matter can add 5-10 imaginary pounds.

Ironman, I think, weighs the contestants so will be solved in a couple weeks what Phil comes in at.

Proven at the AC or not, Dex had to win for the first time, why can't Phil? Like the great Chris Berman always says, "that is why they play the game"...all this is a mute point until we see them side by side and not in a post on the web!

LATS · « **Reply #41 on:** January 22, 2008, 10:02:35 AM »

heath has great delts and arms.. kinda levronesque in a way.. the problem he has is that he is very narrow through the shoulder(clavicals).. other than that, if he can get his chest and back up to standards he will do great.. but, he will have to add considerable size to be competitive through his chest and back.. he will win the ironman.. he really only has freeman to worry about.. but, holding that size until the asc will be tough..

Bobby · « **Reply #42 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:25:57 AM »

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Bobby · « **Reply #43 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:28:36 AM »

Phil and Dex = all arms
Wolf = all torso

torso > arms

wolf will win...even tough he's not competing

Bear · « **Reply #44 on:** January 22, 2008, 12:24:14 PM »

Quote from: Bobby on January 22, 2008, 11:28:36 AM

Phil and Dex = all arms
Wolf = all torso

torso > arms

wolf will win...even tough he's not competing

Wolf's chest and lower back are two of his three weekest points, so unless his huge delts are what you are calling a torso (?) then what you said is balls.

gymguy · « **Reply #45 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:33:49 PM »

Dex always looks great. He's one of the most consistent. However....If Phil can come in around 245lbs, he will shock and awe and win it.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #46 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:35:32 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on January 21, 2008, 06:46:53 PM

He wont beat Dex

yes he will, he'll beat Dex, Toney, Silvio, Gustavo and everyone else at either the Ironman or Arnold, the only guyw ho had a chance against Heath is Victor and he's out.

Julio Ceasar · « **Reply #47 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:27:01 PM »

I like this shit! Where is the second movie of Phil Heath, fucking flexonline allways late...I'm for sure they have a ton of pics from the latest photo shot but don't release them, BASTARDS!!!

Bobby · « **Reply #48 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:40:30 PM »

Quote from: Bear on January 22, 2008, 12:24:14 PM

Wolf's chest and lower back are two of his three weekest points, so unless his huge delts are what you are calling a torso (?) then what you said is balls.

By torso i mean...

weak back?

weak chest? maybe not his best part, but weak?

Lift Studios · « **Reply #49 on:** January 22, 2008, 08:59:52 PM »

Quote from: Julio Ceasar on January 22, 2008, 02:27:01 PM

I like this shit! Where is the second movie of Phil Heath, fucking flexonline allways late...I'm for sure they have a ton of pics from the latest photo shot but don't release them, BASTARDS!!!

Relax JC. We filmed the second video today. Heath trained back 25 days out from the IRONMAN. Always late? No one else is putting out video or pics. I didn't know there was a deadline.

Where are the other guys photos or videos? We've seen pics of Silvio, Gustavo, King and Moe. No vids and no other pics. Let me guess everyone will show up and shock us all.

Yes - been taking progress photos for an upcoming contest prep article on Phil.