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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #125 on: January 24, 2008, 04:39:29 AM »
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maybe.

i feel that that yates of 97 is very underrated.

i have the video and it is so easily apparent why and how he won (by straight firsts) from the first comparison in the first round of prejuding.

pictures really dont do shit compared to the video.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #126 on: January 24, 2008, 06:03:26 AM »
NarcissisticDeity and Hulkster, you two fags have to feel like complete tools by now.....fucking get over it, two different bodybuilders
with two different physiques....you will never know who would have beat the other so FUCK OFF ALREADY!!!!!

by the way, Ronnie would have demolished Yates

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #127 on: January 24, 2008, 10:31:59 AM »
Ah nice job posting ONLY part of the quote

" Thats very hard for me to answer , I'd probably , Ronnie would probably beat me I guess , I don't know


nice try thats not as definitive as this

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?



Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.


there is NO " I guess I don't know "  , Ronnie states matter-of-factly Dorian would keep winning , Ronnie even says he doesn't think so , he knows so !! big difference kid

I will post quotes from Priest & McGough ect that back up my claim however they all pale in comparison to Ronnie Coleman  ;) thats all that matters and not only did Ronnie state this before the 1999 Mr Olympia he also said it the other last Monday night lol again YOUR HERO crushed your opinions outright and Flex Wheeler lmfao his opinion leaves a lot to be desired , he's the same genius who had Ronnie winning the whole pre-judging of this past Olympia

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Yates when asked the question

4. A lot of people say that you are the only pro bodybuilder that could go head to head with Ronnie Coleman.  Like him, you were the only other to be able to gain so much mass in one year. What are your thoughts on this?


A. I get asked that question all the time, and I can’t really give an answer.  I have actually beaten Ronnie, but then he wasn’t at the stage he is now.  He is probably carrying more muscle than I did, but I feel I had better conditioning than him.  It would be close but that’s down to the judge’s decision as always.  All the things that we have in common – Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman and myself – is that we are all stable mentally, training hard, not messing around partying.  You have to keep the focus and it’s usually the mind that is the deciding factor, over physical capabilities.


Peter McGough

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.



Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.


Flex Magazine Jan 1999

Ernie Taylor

" When I saw Ronnie Coleman backstage before the prejudging , it was looking at ' three-D ' again. He looked fantastic. But I think if Dorian ( Yates ) were competing he would have won the show . "






All that matters is Ronnie Coleman not once but twice on gone on record and said he couldn't beat Yates this renders anything you have to say moot ! in chess its called check mate.

First of all yates admitted Ronnie would win. It doesn't matter how he said it. All that matters is, he said Ronnie would beat him.

See, that's the thing you still can't get through your empty head. We all have quotes contradicting each other on every subject. What makes a quote from Ronnie and Peter more credible than a quote from yates, Flex, Matarazzo and J.M. Manion? Nothing does. A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. Which in your case it can not be proven and it is not a fact. There were quotes ages ago stating that the world was flat. Do you believe it? I guess you would, since all you do is rely on quotes.

Remember this: A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. All we have are pics and videos and let's see you prove your point that a 97' yates would beat a 98/99 Ronnie using pics and videos, since your quotes are worthless anyway. On top of that yates didn't even compete after 97, LOL. This would be fun to see.

By the way, here is quote from Milos:

Milos Sarcev states that Ronnie has the best back in history. He also competed against both guys at their prime:

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building

"One Max Muscle employee said, "You have to see him now to truly appreciate what he's bringing to the show." But Coleman was hard to catch: Between training and working his beat fulltime, he had little time to promote himself. Still, most insiders remained unconvinced. Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Benoit and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing. With his big arms and a double pump pose, he could use both his back and his front to win it."


Is this quote true? According to you it must be true since you love quotes, but I wouldn't expect you to agree with it since you love to pick and choose which quotes to accept. The point is, quotes can be used to a minimum in an argument, but it still doesn't prove shyt with out pics and videos to compare.
You can compare quotes and not compare with pics all you want if that makes you happy.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #128 on: January 24, 2008, 11:04:11 AM »
they competed together lots of times.  dorian always beat him

You sound as naive as ND. As if the decisions aren't heavily influenced by politics, when in fact Yates was undeserving several times to different BBs. Wake up.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #129 on: January 24, 2008, 11:07:03 AM »

i feel that that yates of 97 is very underrated.

i have the video and it is so easily apparent why and how he won (by straight firsts) from the first comparison in the first round of prejuding.

pictures really dont do shit compared to the video.

Talk about a blind groupie. I'm sure the videos look completely different that what we see here bwhahaahahahh. As if the whole show's never heavily influenced by politics that these clowns ignore at every turn.

Under-rated, when in fact he got perfect scores, never lost looking like this steaming pile of shit..LOL

The guys who were under-rated were the ones who deserved & were robbed of several of Yates' Olympia "wins".

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #130 on: January 24, 2008, 11:15:39 AM »
First of all yates admitted Ronnie would win. It doesn't matter how he said it. All that matters is, he said Ronnie would beat him.

See, that's the thing you still can't get through your empty head. We all have quotes contradicting each other on every subject. What makes a quote from Ronnie and Peter more credible than a quote from yates, Flex, Matarazzo and J.M. Manion? Nothing does. A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. Which in your case it can not be proven and it is not a fact. There were quotes ages ago stating that the world was flat. Do you believe it? I guess you would, since all you do is rely on quotes.

Remember this: A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. All we have are pics and videos and let's see you prove your point that a 97' yates would beat a 98/99 Ronnie using pics and videos, since your quotes are worthless anyway. On top of that yates didn't even compete after 97, LOL. This would be fun to see.

By the way, here is quote from Milos:

Milos Sarcev states that Ronnie has the best back in history. He also competed against both guys at their prime:

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building

"One Max Muscle employee said, "You have to see him now to truly appreciate what he's bringing to the show." But Coleman was hard to catch: Between training and working his beat fulltime, he had little time to promote himself. Still, most insiders remained unconvinced. Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Benoit and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing. With his big arms and a double pump pose, he could use both his back and his front to win it."


Is this quote true? According to you it must be true since you love quotes, but I wouldn't expect you to agree with it since you love to pick and choose which quotes to accept. The point is, quotes can be used to a minimum in an argument, but it still doesn't prove shyt with out pics and videos to compare.
You can compare quotes and not compare with pics all you want if that makes you happy.

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First of all yates admitted Ronnie would win. It doesn't matter how he said it. All that matters is, he said Ronnie would beat him.

no he didn't he said " I DON'T KNOW "  get this through your head kid

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See, that's the thing you still can't get through your empty head. We all have quotes contradicting each other on every subject. What makes a quote from Ronnie and Peter more credible than a quote from yates, Flex, Matarazzo and J.M. Manion? Nothing does. A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. Which in your case it can not be proven and it is not a fact. There were quotes ages ago stating that the world was flat. Do you believe it? I guess you would, since all you do is rely on quotes.

4. A lot of people say that you are the only pro bodybuilder that could go head to head with Ronnie Coleman.  Like him, you were the only other to be able to gain so much mass in one year. What are your thoughts on this?


A. I get asked that question all the time, and I can’t really give an answer.  I have actually beaten Ronnie, but then he wasn’t at the stage he is now.  He is probably carrying more muscle than I did, but I feel I had better conditioning than him.  It would be close but that’s down to the judge’s decision as always.  All the things that we have in common – Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman and myself – is that we are all stable mentally, training hard, not messing around partying.  You have to keep the focus and it’s usually the mind that is the deciding factor, over physical capabilities.


again he doesn't say Ronnie would beat me thats a lie and all that matters is what Ronnie thinks and he's stated his case more than once  ;)


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Remember this: A quote is worthless only if it is proven to be a fact. All we have are pics and videos and let's see you prove your point that a 97' yates would beat a 98/99 Ronnie using pics and videos, since your quotes are worthless anyway. On top of that yates didn't even compete after 97, LOL. This would be fun to see.

pics are useless as stated many times you see what you want in pics and they never tell the whole story , and I never said Yates 1997 would beat Ronnie 98/99 where did I say that? please find me those quotes Ronnie said if Dorian kept competing he would keep winning , Dorian didn't look like he did in 95 as he did in 94 and in 1997 he still got straight firsts and why? because he has massive , hard and dry

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Milos Sarcev states that Ronnie has the best back in history. He also competed against both guys at their prime:

http://www.maxmuscle.com/index.cfm?fa=article&doc_id=22&subcat=body_building

"One Max Muscle employee said, "You have to see him now to truly appreciate what he's bringing to the show." But Coleman was hard to catch: Between training and working his beat fulltime, he had little time to promote himself. Still, most insiders remained unconvinced. Only Milos Sarcev, in his evaluation of Mr. Olympia contenders in the last issue of Max Muscle, saw Coleman as having a good chance: "At this time, Ron has the best back in the history of the sport," said Mishko, "even better than Benoit and Haney, or Dorian. Ron's thicker, wider, more pleasing. With his big arms and a double pump pose, he could use both his back and his front to win it."

quotes are useless but you post them lol

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Is this quote true? According to you it must be true since you love quotes, but I wouldn't expect you to agree with it since you love to pick and choose which quotes to accept. The point is, quotes can be used to a minimum in an argument, but it still doesn't prove shyt with out pics and videos to compare.
You can compare quotes and not compare with pics all you want if that makes you happy.

it an opinion and a subjective one on top of that it isn't neither right or wrong by the nature of the game , however somethings are not subjective and the quotes prove my point and bottom line Ronnie Coleman feels Yates would keep on beating him for a reason he did after all beat him eight times does it mean its true NO but when its the man in question it looks very bad for you guys lol

again if Ronnie said yes I would beat Yates all of you nut-hugging hypocrites would be singing his praises , you would love quotes then but it didn't go your way now quotes are useless lol

bottom line I think Dorian would beat Ronnie ( again ) and so does he .  ;)


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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #131 on: January 24, 2008, 11:19:00 AM »
You sound as naive as ND. As if the decisions aren't heavily influenced by politics, when in fact Yates was undeserving several times to different BBs. Wake up.

politics , politics only when Yates was concerned lol go away you're the hypocrite who insists Yates was politics but in the same breathe dismiss Ronnie had any politics in his favor , in fact you're the moron who claimed Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging lol you know what again?

nothing

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #132 on: January 24, 2008, 01:35:43 PM »
no he didn't he said " I DON'T KNOW "  get this through your head kid

4. A lot of people say that you are the only pro bodybuilder that could go head to head with Ronnie Coleman.  Like him, you were the only other to be able to gain so much mass in one year. What are your thoughts on this?


A. I get asked that question all the time, and I can’t really give an answer.  I have actually beaten Ronnie, but then he wasn’t at the stage he is now.  He is probably carrying more muscle than I did, but I feel I had better conditioning than him.  It would be close but that’s down to the judge’s decision as always.  All the things that we have in common – Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman and myself – is that we are all stable mentally, training hard, not messing around partying.  You have to keep the focus and it’s usually the mind that is the deciding factor, over physical capabilities.


again he doesn't say Ronnie would beat me thats a lie and all that matters is what Ronnie thinks and he's stated his case more than once  ;)


pics are useless as stated many times you see what you want in pics and they never tell the whole story , and I never said Yates 1997 would beat Ronnie 98/99 where did I say that? please find me those quotes Ronnie said if Dorian kept competing he would keep winning , Dorian didn't look like he did in 95 as he did in 94 and in 1997 he still got straight firsts and why? because he has massive , hard and dry

quotes are useless but you post them lol

it an opinion and a subjective one on top of that it isn't neither right or wrong by the nature of the game , however somethings are not subjective and the quotes prove my point and bottom line Ronnie Coleman feels Yates would keep on beating him for a reason he did after all beat him eight times does it mean its true NO but when its the man in question it looks very bad for you guys lol

again if Ronnie said yes I would beat Yates all of you nut-hugging hypocrites would be singing his praises , you would love quotes then but it didn't go your way now quotes are useless lol

bottom line I think Dorian would beat Ronnie ( again ) and so does he .  ;)



LOL, any moron that can read english understands what yates said about Ronnie winning, but I never expected you to understand. There is no point in a rguing with you because you would never admit to anything.

I used quotes just to show your dumb ass that most of the time quotes can't prove shyt unless they are backed with pics in some cases and in your case, you can't back up your argument because yates retired in 97. So I don't see where you're going with this useless thread.

Oh, thanks for not even replying to anything in my post. You always beat around the bush on certain topics.

Ronnie, yates, Flex, Lee, Milos, etc. can think all they want. Does it make it true? NO

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #133 on: January 24, 2008, 02:04:43 PM »
LOL, any moron that can read english understands what yates said about Ronnie winning, but I never expected you to understand. There is no point in a rguing with you because you would never admit to anything.

I used quotes just to show your dumb ass that most of the time quotes can't prove shyt unless they are backed with pics in some cases and in your case, you can't back up your argument because yates retired in 97. So I don't see where you're going with this useless thread.

Oh, thanks for not even replying to anything in my post. You always beat around the bush on certain topics.

Ronnie, yates, Flex, Lee, Milos, etc. can think all they want. Does it make it true? NO

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LOL, any moron that can read english understands what yates said about Ronnie winning, but I never expected you to understand. There is no point in a rguing with you because you would never admit to anything.

You're an idiot for many reasons , but on this occasion you specifically omitted the part where Yates said I guess , I don't know you left that out for a reason  ;)

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I used quotes just to show your dumb ass that most of the time quotes can't prove shyt unless they are backed with pics in some cases and in your case, you can't back up your argument because yates retired in 97. So I don't see where you're going with this useless thread.

I used to quotes to show you pics are useless unless you were actually there and even then you'd have to be close enough , objective enough and knowledgeable enough to know what you're looking at , you morons are looking at pictures and ascertaining who has better conditioning when it contradicts the people who were actually there , give me a break

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Oh, thanks for not even replying to anything in my post. You always beat around the bush on certain topics.

Ronnie, yates, Flex, Lee, Milos, etc. can think all they want. Does it make it true? NO

I didn't beat around the bush on anything thats a lie and and you can think what you want and in some feeble attempt pass it off as true LMFAO go away kid

if Ronnie thinks Dorian would keep beating him that shits on your opinion  ;) I hope this helps.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #134 on: January 24, 2008, 07:14:41 PM »
LOL the stupidity of ND is amazing.

Iceman is owning him badly and he won't even try and respond sensibly.

he just posts more quotes LOL   ::)
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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #135 on: January 24, 2008, 07:22:05 PM »
LOL the stupidity of ND is amazing.

tell me about it. I've been owning him pretty bad in the Truce thread. Now he's pretending this quote doesn't mean anything b/c Ronnie didn't explicitly say he would beat Dorian. ::)

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #136 on: January 24, 2008, 07:59:19 PM »
iceman,


why is it that you are ONLY posting quotes that reflect your point of view?

that's hear from ronnie himself, who also competed against dorian.

as far as credibility, lets' see:  an 8 time mr. olympia or someone who competed in close to 100 shows, only won 1 show, and almost died injecting synthol into his biceps (not to mention all the shit nasser said).

ronnie coleman, FLEX, july 2003 (HULKSTER, NOTICE HOW THIS IS WELL AFTER 1999 and 2001):

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #137 on: January 24, 2008, 08:04:29 PM »
You're an idiot for many reasons , but on this occasion you specifically omitted the part where Yates said I guess , I don't know you left that out for a reason  ;)

I used to quotes to show you pics are useless unless you were actually there and even then you'd have to be close enough , objective enough and knowledgeable enough to know what you're looking at , you morons are looking at pictures and ascertaining who has better conditioning when it contradicts the people who were actually there , give me a break

I didn't beat around the bush on anything thats a lie and and you can think what you want and in some feeble attempt pass it off as true LMFAO go away kid

if Ronnie thinks Dorian would keep beating him that shits on your opinion  ;) I hope this helps.

If yates thinks Ronnie would beat him in their prime, that shits on your opinion  ;) I hope this helps.

It can go both ways  ;D

Now you have nothing to back up your argument in this stupid thread. You can try to use pics, OH WAIT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BECAUSE YATES DIDN'T COMPETE AFTER 97.

I've wasted enough time on your dumb ass. Get a life you moron.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #138 on: January 24, 2008, 08:05:37 PM »
the almighty bowflex/pumpster keeps talking about politics.

the explain:

-ronnie loosing the two most important rounds in a bbing contest and yet still winning the contest.  despite, signaling to the crowd the "peace sign" when he and jay were standing next to each other.

-ronnie loosing two years in a row during the challenge round, yet also winning with perfect scores.



no matter what you think, yates was still the best conditioned guy on stage - even if he wasnt the prettiest or had the weakest biceps of the top 6.  


by the way, those "other bbers" you are referring to too, are all black, and no one gives a shit about your fucking race card.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #139 on: January 24, 2008, 08:20:54 PM »
iceman,


why is it that you are ONLY posting quotes that reflect your point of view?

that's hear from ronnie himself, who also competed against dorian.

as far as credibility, lets' see:  an 8 time mr. olympia or someone who competed in close to 100 shows, only won 1 show, and almost died injecting synthol into his biceps (not to mention all the shit nasser said).

ronnie coleman, FLEX, july 2003 (HULKSTER, NOTICE HOW THIS IS WELL AFTER 1999 and 2001):

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

I guess you can't read either. I can post many quotes contradicting Ronnie , yates , Flex , etc. I can post many quotes that contradicts the quote you posted above and trust me, I have more quotes about who has the best back of all-time than any of you guys, but what would that prove? See my point? The quotes I used was to make a point about certain situations, but in the end, quotes can't prove shyt unless it is proven to be a fact whether it be by using pics or videos (which ND doesn't do and can't do in this thread). Also, your buddy ND picks and chooses which quotes to use. He thinks that every quote favouring yates is a straight up Fact in Black & White an dwritten in stone, but the facts favouring Ronnie don't mean shyt and he disregards them at all times. See how this thread is useless?

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #140 on: January 24, 2008, 08:47:10 PM »
the best of ronnie would smoke the best of dorian so bad it's not even funny.....

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #141 on: January 24, 2008, 09:17:07 PM »
the best of ronnie would smoke the best of dorian so bad it's not even funny.....


disagree.

but, you're avatar may be one of the best on here.

talk about a true monster......

holy shit.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #142 on: January 25, 2008, 01:49:38 AM »
tell me about it. I've been owning him pretty bad in the Truce thread. Now he's pretending this quote doesn't mean anything b/c Ronnie didn't explicitly say he would beat Dorian. ::)

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."


I really laughed out loud when I read you've been owning me , that was funny . the only thing you've been owning is yourself ! Ronnie Coleman admits he couldn't beat Dorian not once but twice and your response " You ever hear the guys speak? he's not that bright "

and that quotes does mean NOTHING in the face of these two which do explicitly do say he couldn't beat Yates

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie never committed to a response in the one you posted , however he went on record twice stating Dorian is the better of the two , this crushes you and your dumb opinion , I own you and so does your hero  ;)

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #143 on: January 25, 2008, 01:51:17 AM »
iceman,


why is it that you are ONLY posting quotes that reflect your point of view?

that's hear from ronnie himself, who also competed against dorian.

as far as credibility, lets' see:  an 8 time mr. olympia or someone who competed in close to 100 shows, only won 1 show, and almost died injecting synthol into his biceps (not to mention all the shit nasser said).

ronnie coleman, FLEX, july 2003 (HULKSTER, NOTICE HOW THIS IS WELL AFTER 1999 and 2001):

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

Great post ! every time Ronnie admits Dorian is better he's being humble or he's being kind lol NO Ronnie is being honest

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #144 on: January 25, 2008, 02:26:06 AM »
it sounds to me like he was refering to the politics of ifbb judging, NOT the quality of their two physiques.



Damn straight, does ND actually think he meant Dorian would actually be winning on the merits of his physique?! He most likely simply meant that the reigning Mr O has a big advantage and Dorian's look would have been the 'in' look as long as he was around.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #145 on: January 25, 2008, 07:38:03 AM »
2 people besides me have said the same thing regarding Ronnie's comment about the judges choosing Dorian. It's refreshing to know there are others who are intelligent enough to understand what they read.

it sounds to me like he was refering to the politics of ifbb judging, NOT the quality of their two physiques.

he was alluding to how difficult it is to dethrone the current Mr. Olympia - not b/c they are actually better than him.

Damn straight, does ND actually think he meant Dorian would actually be winning on the merits of his physique?! He most likely simply meant that the reigning Mr O has a big advantage and Dorian's look would have been the 'in' look as long as he was around.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #146 on: January 25, 2008, 10:24:55 AM »
Damn straight, does ND actually think he meant Dorian would actually be winning on the merits of his physique?! He most likely simply meant that the reigning Mr O has a big advantage and Dorian's look would have been the 'in' look as long as he was around.

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?



Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.


I love all the Coleman fans who think they know whats on his mind lol jackasses

notice the second quote when he specifically says why Dorian would still beat him , he's a big guy , hard and he's been the man to beat ! he has a lot going for him

please don't presume to think for the man because he knows Dorian was a winning machine

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #147 on: January 25, 2008, 10:27:30 AM »
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Chime in here if you've got any info on the topic ND. Cheers

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=196900.msg2715499#msg2715499

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #148 on: January 25, 2008, 10:28:36 AM »
2 people besides me have said the same thing regarding Ronnie's comment about the judges choosing Dorian. It's refreshing to know there are others who are intelligent enough to understand what they read.


Notice they're all Coleman nut-huggers?  ;) intelligent lol sure maybe you missed the part where Ronnie elaborated on why Dorian would keep winning physique wise , so much for ' intelligence '

Ronnie Coleman admits he couldn't beat Yates not once but twice get over it.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman Admits he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
« Reply #149 on: January 25, 2008, 11:24:53 AM »
Notice they're all Coleman nut-huggers?

they have 1/100 the number of posts as you in the Truce thread, but according to you they are "Coleman nuthuggers?" I guess that means you have Dorian's balls pressed up against your chin. ::)

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intelligent lol sure maybe you missed the part where Ronnie elaborated on why Dorian would keep winning physique wise , so much for ' intelligence '

Ronnie:  "Dorian has a big physique and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block."

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days."

it sounds a lot like Ronnie is saying the judges give preference to the current Mr. Olympia champ.