Nasser El Sonbaty- Views and Opinions and Tidbits

[nycbull]

Even though not directed to me, I shall answer. Nietzsches philosophy is one of overcoming, of optimism disguised in depression. There is no doubt that Nietzsche suffered mentally and physically, but his uncanny ability to overcome these adversaries is what is manifested through his work. He was one of the first existentialists. What books have you read of his?

"I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage."
Friedrich Nietzsche

"On the mountains of truth you can never climb in vain: either you will reach a point higher up today, or you will be training your powers so that you will be able to climb higher tomorrow."
Friedrich Nietzsche

I am reading a book, nothing well known, that basically summarizes but in pretty dense detail all of the great philosophers, starting with the Greeks and forward to Einstien. The early philosphers were a great read because there was so much spirituality in those philosphies even if the philosopher themselves did not believe in God there was always room to believe there was something greater than ourselves. As the book goes forward the philosophies seem to get more and more dark, especially when you hit the 19th and 2oth century philosphers, they leave little room for any spiritual belief. Its wierd because I have always enjoyed the ridicule that atheist hurl at  religious instituitions and support it whole heartedly but when  someone actually 'proves' that there really truly is no other existance out of this one it can be quite depressing and unsettling.

So the answer is I have not read much about philosphy or really much about Nietzsche aside from this book.

[bigbobs]

How can you say broke when we have proven he owns multi-million dollar houses and has numerous expensive cars. The man is a rich pimp and you all wish he were broke but he is rich and can retire at 43 with abs.

at 300 pounds!!

[bigbobs]

300 lbs with abs, retired, wealthy, nice cars, many women, the man pumpkinheads love to hate -- Nasser El Sonbaty!

[WhiteCastle]

Nasser is only 43?  He looks like he's going on 60!

[TrueGrit]

How can you say broke when we have proven he owns multi-million dollar houses and has numerous expensive cars. The man is a rich pimp and you all wish he were broke but he is rich and can retire at 43 with abs.

You have proven nothing to me, nothing. I have no idea if that residence belonged to NES. If it did then it was sold before the divorce - that he bitches he came off badly in. It doesn't seem like a proper valuation from a proper real estate website. We also have no idea how much of it he owned ,or anything about his mortgage arrangements. He might have been struggling to keep up with the payments for all we know, or he could have owned it outright. These are huge, gaping facts we don't have.

 Regarding the cars,assuming they're his, as Bobs has frequently said lots of people without a lot of money have quite expensive cars.

 You're going to have to do a bit better than to pull some pictures off the net and say 'ha, he's rich'....we have no idea if these things actually belong to him and if they do his financial arrangements concerning them. Would be interesting to see a picture of his current residence.

 Looks to me like he's trying hard to do something about the amount of people speculating that he has no money..suddenly the pics arrive. Protesting a little too much perhaps?

Still think the fact he sells his worn clothes and begs for airfares speaks volumes.

[FLYLO]

How can you say broke when we have proven he owns multi-million dollar houses and has numerous expensive cars. The man is a rich pimp and you all wish he were broke but he is rich and can retire at 43 with abs.

This actually breaks Babs response to Titus hypothetical find.  Babs babbled on how he knows "...many millionairs...", "...there are evidences...", and "...food for thought...." to explain Nasser secret wealth.  KNNY finding information is more than what Babs has done to support his debate with Titus.  So much for a millionair keeping his wealth a secret theory.  KNNY found evidence to support against Babs' theory of Nasser living a humble life.  IN YOUR FACE BABS.......so why can't Nasser get his own plane fare?  

[bigbobs]

This actually breaks Babs response to Titus hypothetical find.  Babs babbled on how he knows "...many millionairs...", "...there are evidences...", and "...food for thought...." to explain Nasser secret wealth.  KNNY finding information is more than what Babs has done to support his debate with Titus.  So much for a millionair keeping his wealth a secret theory.  KNNY found evidence to support against Babs' theory of Nasser living a humble life.  IN YOUR FACE BABS.......so why can't Nasser get his own plane fare?  

I'm actually glad Knny did that - so no nothing is in my face!  Thank you Kenny!  The plane fair issue was answered previously

[WhiteCastle]

Why do they deliberately merge the threads when Nasser has expressly asked them not to do this?

 What is Avidan so scared of that he allows this policy and suppresses freedom?

I imagine he merges the threads when you and BigBobs (the same person) post the exact same messages on 5 different threads!

[knny187]

I'm actually glad Knny did that - so no nothing is in my face!  Thank you Kenny!  The plane fair issue was answered previously

sure sand fluffer.......


whenever you want to look bad...I'll be there

[FLYLO]

I'm actually glad Knny did that - so no nothing is in my face!  Thank you Kenny!  The plane fair issue was answered previously

Your own words betrayed you, Babs. 

[ag2]

A fvcking woman beater !? And you support that? A man who hits a woman is a coward ! What a piece of sh!t... That's your hero? You're a bigger bitch for supporting a woman beater .. If your father (your own flesh and blood) hit your mother ? Would you respect him the same ?

Oh Big worm, how many times have you been owned and you keep coming back for more, I suppose that anyone who can afford a suit over $300.00 is your hero huh? Oh wait maybe you are proud of the fact that you have more posts than me on getbig 

You claim to be successful and you are yet to tell me what your zip code is so that I can verify whether or not you are indeed successful and yet you run and hide from me like a coward, Big Worm just stop posting from your mom's basement. You said that you were self employed last time but failed to elaborate what it is that you do.

FYI jerking off to internet porn is not considered self employment now go to the mirror and take a look at your K mart clothes and cry yourself to sleep.

[TrueGrit]

Nasser has a reputation amongst the female 'athletes' of being a sex pest and deeply intimidating. Many of them warn younger girls about him.

I know this first hand from a very well known competitor.

[Lamplighterx]

Nasser is living the good life for sure

Money, good looks, great body, 3 cars, a rare dog, and more fame then most of us will ever know

Team Nasser 08
300lbs with perfect abs

[JohnnyVegas]

1)  Post a pic of Nasser's mansion to help show his immense wealth

Firts, it is not a "mansion".

Second, Nasser NEVER OWNED IT.

I go and run at the ebach every day, but just because I run there does not mean I own the beach Einstein.

Seriously, where do you come up with such nonsense?

I bet you tell everyone Nasser owns world Gym San Diego because he worked out there a few months.

Nasser=washed up G$P schmoe.

[dearth]

200lbs with drugs+oil, retired, bitte, attention whore, sells used clothing, the man I love to jerk my little dick off to -- Nasser El Sonbaty!

really bobs?

[Topskin69]

"are you a follower of Neitzsche philosophy?, I personally find him unbearable depressing. I dont understand how those that follow him can find any happines in life, can you share any thoughts on this?"

Here is my basic take on this...

"By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired."
Franz Kafka

I tend to find a lot of paralells with existentialism, and bodybuilding. In fact it was the philosophical aspect of bodybuilding that attracted me to it, not the superficial. I was 14 and I read a copy of Arnold's: "The Education of a Bodybuilder." What fascinated me about it, even at that age, was the complete mastery that Arnold had over his life and surroundings. It became self-evident that this mastery was the result of his mental dominion, as opposed to his psyical gifts. He knew that in order to achive what he wanted in the psyical realm he first had to visualize it, accept it, and LIVE it.

Some would say that this is merely a form of self-delusion, and they would be correct, but what many do not understand, is that self-delusion is the key to a great many things. When one genuwinely believes that they will accomplish what they set out to do, (assuming that they also have an insane work ethic to match their delusion, and at least a modicum of talent in their endeavor), then they will find themselves living into their vision.

To be a bit more esoteric about this... I would say that this is also the foundation of what magickal/occultic theory is about.... its about subverting realtiy to your will. Bodybuilding is much the same thing... you have to have the will to conquer your greatest opponent... yourself... and you can extrapolate that to mean that if you have the power to overcome yourself... then all other obstacles in life become quite ordinary...and insignificant.

Another thing that fascinates me about all of this is the aspect of suffering... I know that my sucess will only be measured out in equal measure to my suffering. How much am I willing to suffer? How much pain can I push myself thru? Not just physical pain.... but mentally as well. Can I endure the monotony of a bodybuilding lifestyle, can I absolve myself of  socialization that I would be enjoying if I were not entrenched in this? Can I deal with the fact that very few people can relate to what I am doing... much less those that would be in a romantic realtionship with me. The suffering one has to endure is very much a multilatteral affair.

Bodybuilding to me is just an extension of my mental war....my journey if you will. It is more of a mental endeavor then a physical one...as the mind and body are both interrelated...you can not have one function with out the other.... so where the mind goes the body will follow. We... (the people that have chosen to take this journey on)... are IMHO better then other people... not out of birthright... but because we made the decision to transcend the mundane. We are the ones that bang our heads agaisnt a wall day in and out...looking for a crack to follow. We made goals and we continue to fight inch by inch towards them.  Not many others can relate to that... many people daydream... and bitch and moan... but very few have the balls to suffer for what they want out of life...

So there you have it... my meltdown! Lol

M!

Things are entirely what they appear to be and behind them... there is nothing"
Jean-Paul Sartre