Guys like Dillet, Yates, Coleman, El Sonbaty, Matarazzo, etc,,todays bodybuilders except for maybe Heath and Wolf just don't seem to be training hard enough or maybe it's the lack of love for the iron. Guys need to be coming in freaky huge with abs and bring in crazy detail. I remember back in the day first seeing Yates on stage, his back looked so freaky. Then there is Paul Dillet, this guy put the 'freak" into freakenstein. From the pictures, El Sonbaty also is dwarfing everyone. Big Ron also, a pure freak. Bringing in so much muscle he looks like a cartoon character.