Author Topic: Fedor too boring for the USA (Read 8196 times)

danielson · « **Reply #25 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:12:46 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:08:34 AM

He can't finish them? It seems to me, he has finished all of his fights.

It's funny how Fedor has become an underdog, with a perfect record.

Who do YOU want to see Fedor fight? I can't think of a good fight for him besides Randy. And don't say some freak either. I am talking about real fighters.

Bluto · « **Reply #26 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:12:51 AM »

The problem with the MMA heavyweights whether they're in the UFC or Pride is that they dont knock out people often enough!

That's the sole reason people wanna see heavyweights in the first place for their ability to put that weight behind the punches. Whether it be stand up knock outs or some vicious g'n'p. That's the reason people loved to see Tyson, cause he had 44 KO's in 50 fights. That's why K1 are heavyweights because they deliver a lot of KO's.

When Tim Sylvia stopped knocking people out and started winning by decision the crowd turned their back on him. Fedor got 6 T(ko)'s in his whole career. 5 of them in 2003 or earlier.

Bluto · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:20:42 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:08:34 AM

He can't finish them? It seems to me, he has finished all of his fights.

It's funny how Fedor has become an underdog, with a perfect record.

Finishing someone is either by submission or KO not leaving in to the judges. The only ones he's able to finish these days (ko's are outta the question, he doesnt ko people since 2003) is cans or guys that's stand up fighters... thats not good enough IMO for someone who is suppose to be the one fighter in the world...

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:36:29 AM »

Quote from: danielson on February 01, 2008, 08:12:46 AM

Who do YOU want to see Fedor fight? I can't think of a good fight for him besides Randy. And don't say some freak either. I am talking about real fighters.

In Pride he defended his title against every heavrywieght they had, and beat them. I'm sorry, but who is he going to fight in the UFC? Tim Silva? Gonzaga? Kongo? He would beat all of them.

Bodog offered Couture 3 million dollars to fight Fedor and Couture turned down the offer. That was just last year. Fedor has not been dodging anyone. The funnt thing is now couture wants to fight fedor. Randy record is not that good, 16-8?

danielson · « **Reply #29 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:38:11 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:36:29 AM

In Pride he defended his title against every heavrywieght they had, and beat them. I'm sorry, but who is he going to fight in the UFC? Tim Silva? Gonzaga? Kongo? He would beat all of them.

Bodog offered Couture 3 million dollars to fight Fedor and Couture turned down the offer. That was just last year. Fedor has not been dodging anyone. The funnt thing is now couture wants to fight fedor. Randy record is not that good, 16-8?

Umm, not sure why you are being so defensive. I will ask you again, who do you want to see him fight? You can pick anyone in the world except for Randy and freaks.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:38:31 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 01, 2008, 08:20:42 AM

Finishing someone is either by submission or KO not leaving in to the judges. The only ones he's able to finish these days (ko's are outta the question, he doesnt ko people since 2003) is cans or guys that's stand up fighters... thats not good enough IMO for someone who is suppose to be the one fighter in the world...

I don't think their is a MMA fighter out there that has finished all of his fights in a KO.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:40:41 AM »

Quote from: danielson on February 01, 2008, 08:38:11 AM

Umm, not sure why you are being so defensive. I will ask you again, who do you want to see him fight? You can pick anyone in the world except for Randy and freaks.

No I'm not being defensive.

Igor back in his prime.

danielson · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:43:44 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:40:41 AM

No I'm not being defensive.

Igor back in his prime.

No I mean now. I am being serious. I can't think of anyone for him to fight right now.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:51:12 AM »

Quote from: danielson on February 01, 2008, 08:43:44 AM

No I mean now. I am being serious. I can't think of anyone for him to fight right now.

I can't either. We seen all these HW fighters so much, it's getting boring. The LHW division is more exciting than the HW division.

Bluto · « **Reply #34 on:** February 01, 2008, 09:11:56 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:38:31 AM

I don't think their is a MMA fighter out there that has finished all of his fights in a KO.

they dont have to. but what happends when fedor fights somebody great? shouldnt he be able to finish them if he's so good?

he won over nog twice by decision.

over crocop by decision.

arona by decision.

renato sobral by decision.

the biggest names he faces - he cant finish.

danielson · « **Reply #35 on:** February 01, 2008, 09:18:22 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 01, 2008, 08:51:12 AM

I can't either. We seen all these HW fighters so much, it's getting boring. The LHW division is more exciting than the HW division.

Definitely. I am surprised that more people don't move up in weight to try to breathe some life into the HW division. The two main events tomorrow are HW though so we will see what happens. If Brock wins, it will be a good thing for the division. I am hoping Kimbo develops into a decent fighter as well, maybe he will come to the UFC. I doubt he will ever be considered a great fighter, but I would like to see him fight Lesnar or even Sylvia, Arlovski, etc.

Bluto · « **Reply #36 on:** February 01, 2008, 09:25:43 AM »

reason hw is shit is the lack of knock out and brute power.

without it we have a bunch of fat guys that cant finish fights and that ends up outta breath in the end of the first round.

k-1 heavyweights are fucking awesome. someone like peter aerts will in one ROUND give more action than a whole ufc card.

Fury · « **Reply #37 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:03:33 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 01, 2008, 09:25:43 AM

reason hw is shit is the lack of knock out and brute power.

without it we have a bunch of fat guys that cant finish fights and that ends up outta breath in the end of the first round.

k-1 heavyweights are fucking awesome. someone like peter aerts will in one ROUND give more action than a whole ufc card.

Gee, that might be the reason why K-1 is the most popular fighting organization in the world, eh bright spot?

You're talking about guys that are the best strikers on the planet. MMA fighters are not in the same league as the K-1 Max guys when it comes to striking. Not even close.

Bluto · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:25:35 PM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on February 01, 2008, 01:03:33 PM

Gee, that might be the reason why K-1 is the most popular fighting organization in the world, eh bright spot?

You're talking about guys that are the best strikers on the planet. MMA fighters are not in the same league as the K-1 Max guys when it comes to striking. Not even close.

all im asking for is a few hardhitting heavyweights to enter the world of mma and putting on a show.

i dont think thats asking too much.

Fury · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 01, 2008, 01:25:35 PM

all im asking for is a few hardhitting heavyweights to enter the world of mma and putting on a show.

i dont think thats asking too much.

You claim to be huge and have been cage fighting longer than the UFC has been around. Why don't you do it?

Bluto · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:52:39 PM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on February 01, 2008, 01:51:43 PM

You claim to be huge and have been cage fighting longer than the UFC has been around. Why don't you do it?

ill think about it.

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2008, 08:28:29 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 01, 2008, 09:11:56 AM

they dont have to. but what happends when fedor fights somebody great? shouldnt he be able to finish them if he's so good?

he won over nog twice by decision.

over crocop by decision.

arona by decision.

renato sobral by decision.

the biggest names he faces - he cant finish.

Well in terms of logical thinking if he can't finish these guys, who are big names (one who is fighting for the UFC HW belt tonight) and they can't finish Fedor, yet Fedor wins by dicision. Then I reckon that makes him the best fighter in the world right? Damn you keep sticking your foot in your mouth.

Bluto · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2008, 08:43:10 AM »

Quote from: SinCitysmallGUY on February 02, 2008, 08:28:29 AM

Well in terms of logical thinking if he can't finish these guys, who are big names (one who is fighting for the UFC HW belt tonight) and they can't finish Fedor, yet Fedor wins by dicision. Then I reckon that makes him the best fighter in the world right? Damn you keep sticking your foot in your mouth.

whats your point

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2008, 08:56:41 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 02, 2008, 08:43:10 AM

whats your point

That your whole entire argument about Fedor not being number one in the world is complete bullshit spewing from your orfice you call a cock slot and that you speak on opinion and your opinion is backed only by cutting and pasting and you know nothing when it really comes to MMA. Can you cut and paste some of the info from UFC about the fights so I don't have to. Thanks bitch.

Bluto · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:47:09 AM »

Quote from: SinCitysmallGUY on February 02, 2008, 08:56:41 AM

That your whole entire argument about Fedor not being number one in the world is complete bullshit spewing from your orfice you call a cock slot and that you speak on opinion and your opinion is backed only by cutting and pasting and you know nothing when it really comes to MMA. Can you cut and paste some of the info from UFC about the fights so I don't have to. Thanks bitch.

no idea what youre talking about.

Topic: Fedor too boring for the USA

thats the topic. try sticking to it.

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #45 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:08:34 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 02, 2008, 09:47:09 AM

no idea what youre talking about.

Topic: Fedor too boring for the USA

thats the topic. try sticking to it.

Do I need to run back through all the threads and find your posts where you say Fedor is not that great of a fighter and should not be #1. Fedor is not nearly as boring as Sylvia, Koschek, Tito, and your favorite bisbing. SO I guess they are all to boring for the US, yet dana keeps paying them??? hmmm....

Bluto · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:27:33 AM »

Quote from: SinCitysmallGUY on February 02, 2008, 10:08:34 AM

Do I need to run back through all the threads and find your posts where you say Fedor is not that great of a fighter and should not be #1. .

good luck with that... there's never been such posts.

Geo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:36:00 AM »

fedor's the man to beat (plain and simple)!

end of discussion

Bluto · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2008, 11:12:57 AM »

Quote from: Geo on February 02, 2008, 10:36:00 AM

fedor's the man to beat (plain and simple)!

end of discussion

why is that

Geo · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2008, 12:03:26 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 02, 2008, 11:12:57 AM

why is that

because I'm smarter than you !