depends wether competing or not,,naturals are usually on simple 500 400 30-50 as gh15 calls it,,it is comfortable cycles through out the year of 500 mg testosteron 400mg nandrolone short easter or long if not competing and 30-50mg dianabol,,those are typical gym rat cycles and that swhy naturals look like gym rats ,,there is no natural up to 2008 that looked any better than a gym rat EVER that includes stave reeves that only experiemented,,put him next to gym rat that love bodybuilding today and compete locally and they look somewhat the same with most likley reeves has advantage of structure due to perfect symetry
if not competing a natural can go up to 2 grams per week ,,since natural only a word of mouth ,,no one know and to be honest with you no one cares,,
there is no bodybuilding as in no bodybuilders that would actually enter a gym naturally ,,gh15 is not femiliar with even one single bodybuilder that would go to train truely naturally past the 5th year of training
the most important thing with naturals is AROMATASE INHIBITORS AND ANTI ESTROGENS,,THEY USE IT AND MEGA DOSING ON IT,,it is all in the better way to cheat the system when it comes to naturals,,same as their level of christianity ,,all fake