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Do the Pros take 7-10 days to dehydrate before a show !!!
« on: February 01, 2008, 08:39:07 PM »
I say it's bullshit, nobody need more than a day to lose the water

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keep in mind, that guy think he is "in the know"  :D

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2008, 08:44:47 PM »
I say it's bullshit, nobody need more than a day to lose the water

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keep in mind, that guy think he is "in the know"  :D

You're a moron if you try to do it all in one day, you have to be very careful with diurectics and introduce them gently.. you can't just take 400mg of lasix in one day and BOOM.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2008, 08:47:00 PM »
I say it's bullshit, nobody need more than a day to lose the water

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keep in mind, that guy think he is "in the know"  :D
I have heard from many some do take afew days to "dry out" which is crazy.
This is not about a small loss of water but more like pushing the sanity envelope in my opinion
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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 08:59:11 PM »
This is not about a small loss of water but more like pushing the sanity envelope in my opinion

And pro bodybuilding is sane otherwise?  ???

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 09:02:54 PM »
Joe Meeko said he would go three days with no water.  In the Pre-contest Bible, most pros did one day, with restricted water for the previous two days and normal dieting before that.
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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 09:30:36 PM »
You're a moron if you try to do it all in one day, you have to be very careful with diurectics and introduce them gently.. you can't just take 400mg of lasix in one day and BOOM.


I took 1/2 diazide the night before my show, that's it

do you really think you have 20 lbs of water to drop ?  ::)

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 09:32:16 PM »
you guys seem to think that your physique changes COMPLETELY when you drop the water

you look the same damn it, just a bit more detailed  ::)

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 09:34:23 PM »
I think he may be referring to aldactone. Some start to use it about a week out, but they are by no means restricting water that far out!!!

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008, 09:36:01 PM »
I think he may be referring to aldactone. Some start to use it about a week out, but they are by no means restricting water that far out!!!

I heard aldactone was fucking weak for a diuretic and that it didn't do much

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 09:55:08 PM »
I heard aldactone was fucking weak for a diuretic and that it didn't do much

Not really taking it for the diuretic effect. Isn't needed anyway.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 09:58:58 PM »

Disguested... A question...

IYHO... do you feel dierutics are essintial for drying someone out in todays competitive enviroment... or can someone who is meticiulous enough with his/her prep do it without them? I found it interesting that both Rich Gaspari and Dorian Yates stated throught their competitive carreers that they never had to use them...as they were always ready two weeks before their shows...

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 10:01:37 PM »
Joe Meeko said he would go three days with no water.  In the Pre-contest Bible, most pros did one day, with restricted water for the previous two days and normal dieting before that.

That was the norm back then, 2-3 days before a show, water was almost taboo. 3 days out cut water in half, 2 days out half of what you cut out from day 3, 1 lasix, 1 day out, cut water completely exept to just wet your toungue and mouth, 1 lasix in the morning, 1 before bed. Not smart and wouldn't recommend it, regulating water nowadays is one of the positive things in this "new age".

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 10:02:24 PM »
Disguested... A question...

IYHO... do you feel dierutics are essintial for drying someone out in todays competitive enviroment... or can someone who is meticiulous enough with his/her prep do it without them? I found it interesting that both Rich Gaspari and Dorian Yates stated throught their competitive carreers that they never had to use them...as they were always ready two weeks before their shows...

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look how fucking shredded Alex Azarian was in his prep

he didn't use diuretic and was in better condition that the competitors who use diuretic


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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2008, 01:21:57 AM »
That was the norm back then, 2-3 days before a show, water was almost taboo. 3 days out cut water in half, 2 days out half of what you cut out from day 3, 1 lasix, 1 day out, cut water completely exept to just wet your toungue and mouth, 1 lasix in the morning, 1 before bed. Not smart and wouldn't recommend it, regulating water nowadays is one of the positive things in this "new age".

didnt you place 6th out of 5?
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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2008, 02:02:26 AM »
didnt you place 6th out of 5?

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2008, 12:05:16 AM »
i took 1 aldactone a day for 3 days and lost over 20 lbs. in 2005. 40 years old at the time. i seem to respond very extreme to anything i take. a bantemweight i knew took 4 or 5 a day for a week to lose 4 lbs.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2008, 12:08:32 AM »
Memory fuzzy...but i recall...

momo benaziza bought bags of apples and blended them for the whole week before the Dutch Pro.  He either drank no water, or very little water, and this was following anohter show.  Then he won the show and passed away that evening at the hotel.  I dont know if he actually drank nothing but blended apples for a week straight.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2008, 01:17:32 AM »
I took 1/2 diazide the night before my show, that's it

do you really think you have 20 lbs of water to drop ?  ::)
Actually your wrong because they come in out of shape and try to make up by losing water, any real competitor like yourself knows that it shouldn't take more then 24 hour to lose your water and losing water shouldn't' t be more then 5% of your weight, and as far as the guy that called you a moron is concern, I hope he doesn't ever enter a show because it is way to dangerous to be dehydrated for more then a day. In fact If you've dieted properly 12 hours could be all you need. I also compete in Canada Stavios.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2008, 01:27:38 AM »
It really comes down to sodium intake as well.  If you start cutting sodium drasticaly a couple days out and the drop/cut out the water in the last 24 hrs, it doesn't have to be dangerous... well, relatively dangerous.  Sometimes you even need to drink a little bit of water to get it all out.  everyone's body is different granted, but if you diet properly you're body will be in carb and sodium depletion and most of the water will be out already.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2008, 01:53:09 AM »
It really comes down to sodium intake as well.  If you start cutting sodium drasticaly a couple days out and the drop/cut out the water in the last 24 hrs, it doesn't have to be dangerous... well, relatively dangerous.  Sometimes you even need to drink a little bit of water to get it all out.  everyone's body is different granted, but if you diet properly you're body will be in carb and sodium depletion and most of the water will be out already.
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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2008, 02:10:02 AM »
Cut water 24 hours tops......cramping up onstage is not a good thing.  Been there.  FYI, one can easily ruin 16-20 weeks precontest prep "just like that".  ;)

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2008, 06:37:03 AM »
it depends stavios....on the pro's dedication, on his willingnes to risk his health, and on whether or not his personal genetics dictate that he go to such extreme measure to get dry(why dhydrate if you have kickass genetics and dont need to?).    i know for a fact that at least one ifbb pro doesnt deplete at all...just starting at the beginning of the carb up.      but i also know for a fact that a really popular european pro back in the 90's went for weeks on end depleting himself...his only source of water was blended apples!!!! crazy mother fucker was dry and striated as hell though.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2008, 07:39:31 AM »
i took 1 aldactone a day for 3 days and lost over 20 lbs. in 2005. 40 years old at the time. i seem to respond very extreme to anything i take. a bantemweight i knew took 4 or 5 a day for a week to lose 4 lbs.
he mite have had 4lbs of water to lose while you had 20 ;)

cant exstract water thats not there!

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2008, 07:47:55 AM »
Memory fuzzy...but i recall...

momo benaziza bought bags of apples and blended them for the whole week before the Dutch Pro.  He either drank no water, or very little water, and this was following anohter show.  Then he won the show and passed away that evening at the hotel.  I dont know if he actually drank nothing but blended apples for a week straight.

I read in MMI, that Momo had nothing to drink for a week solid. Never heard the apples story-who knows if it's true or not-rumors abound in the BBing industry!
What I do remember from the article, is that Momo's only source of any liquid was ice chips. If he felt thirsty or that he needed water from sever dehydration, would would chop up a bunch of ice and suck on the chips.

The whole story started with the above. By the time he was on stage, he was nearly convulsing and by the night show he was practically a dead man on the stage. When he passed out in his hotel room, Porter Cottrell tried to resuscitate him and Momo's color was nearly GRAY despite his natural dark skin complexion (Egyptian I believe) and tanning color. The article concluded that his blood had basically become solid throughout the week, even more so on contest day, and he was dying the entire time he was in the contest.

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Re: Dude at MD saying the Pros take 7-10 days to deshydrate before a show !!!
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2008, 07:51:36 AM »
didnt you place 6th out of 5?

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