Author Topic: Crocop to be axed from UFC? Might happend today monday 4th! (Read 8161 times)

Bluto · « **on:** February 04, 2008, 07:43:55 AM »

“We’re waiting to hear from him. We told him we’d wait for him to make a decision, but he’s not making a decision…. The deadline is pretty much up, and I need decision from him by Monday (February 4).”

UFC President Dana White provides an update on the Mirko Cro Cop situation — the 2006 Pride FC Open Weight Grand Prix Champion has a losing record inside the Octagon (1-2) and has not competed since UFC 75: “Champion vs. Champion” in September 2007. No word on what will happen if the deadline expires with no word from the Croatian.

Fury · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:16:07 AM »

That would make M-1 even better than it already is!

Bluto · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:22:39 AM »

i dont know if people care that much about crocop these days

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:34:54 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 04, 2008, 08:22:39 AM

i dont know if people care that much about crocop these days

Yes they do.

All of his fights are exciting. When you watch a Cro Cop fight, someone getting knocked out. Either Cro Cop going to KO someone or Cro Cop getting KO'd. That is what MMA fans want to see. Cro Cop will be a main attraction until he retires.

There is no MMA fighter in the history of MMA that has a KO highlight reel like Cro Cop. He has KO'd a lot of fighters.

cht868 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 04, 2008, 08:34:54 AM

Yes they do.

All of his fights are exciting. When you watch a Cro Cop fight, someone getting knocked out. Either Cro Cop going to KO someone or Cro Cop getting KO'd. That is what MMA fans want to see. Cro Cop will be a main attraction until he retires.

There is no MMA fighter in the history of MMA that has a KO highlight reel like Cro Cop. He has KO'd a lot of fighters.

cro cop needs to drop to 205, he is not a true hw imo

Fury · « **Reply #5 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:50:00 AM »

Quote from: cht868 on February 04, 2008, 08:48:30 AM

cro cop needs to drop to 205, he is not a true hw imo

He's said before that he has no intentions of fighting 205 and that trying to cut down that low destroys his body and energy levels. He's 6'2. He's definitely a HW. Been that way from his K-1 days even.

Faust · « **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2008, 09:54:58 AM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on February 04, 2008, 08:50:00 AM

He's said before that he has no intentions of fighting 205 and that trying to cut down that low destroys his body and energy levels. He's 6'2. He's definitely a HW. Been that way from his K-1 days even.

I kind of disagree. I don't see how it could destroy his energy levels. For sure dieting down isn't fun, but most of the guys at 205 do it. If you compare Crocop last showing to Page or Ortiz, they're similar in height and weight in the fight.

All Crocop would have to do is diet a little bit and drop water, he could make it pretty easily.

Fury · « **Reply #7 on:** February 04, 2008, 10:10:40 AM »

I don't know. None of us are in any position to really disagree with the guy. We don't know his body. And to be honest, with the amount of training, cardio and conditioning he does, cutting another 10-15 pounds off his frame probably wouldn't be easy.

It's all speculation, as none of us know his body. I thought he said in an interview a month or two ago that he had bulked up to around 230.

Bluto · « **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2008, 10:34:29 AM »

he might retire altogether

Faust · « **Reply #9 on:** February 04, 2008, 11:19:01 AM »

Dana should reach into his pocket and get another crocop - wandy fight.
Crowd will love it. Crocop's got more fights on his contract and wandy will want to revenge his humiliating loss.

Quote from: Bluto on February 04, 2008, 10:34:29 AM

he might retire altogether

I'm afraid so. I loved him at pride, but if he keeps fighting like this he should better retire.

Bluto · « **Reply #10 on:** February 04, 2008, 11:51:17 AM »

he's hinted that before

mame09 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:59:02 PM »

he is going to leave ufc and goto m1 were he can use his "supplements".

thats where mirko show his true fighting skills with soccer kicks and knees

Bluto · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:36:59 AM »

Quote from: mame09 on February 04, 2008, 08:59:02 PM

he is going to leave ufc and goto m1 were he can use his "supplements".

thats where mirko show his true fighting skills with soccer kicks and knees

If you need to rely on steroids and soccer kicks to win fights, you're not much of a fighter.

He's done.

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2008, 06:11:41 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:36:59 AM

If you need to rely on steroids and soccer kicks to win fights, you're not much of a fighter.

He's done.

let's not get carried away with the haterade here...'soccer kicks'??

this just arrived from cnn news...mma competitors use peds. always have and always will. only thing that changes is how to beat the test.

personally, i think mirko should retire. it doesn't appear that his heart is in it anymore and he doesn't seem to like leaving his young family behind to go play the silly hollywood games with dana white.

he's done enough, got the moola. get out while you're ahead i say.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:18:28 AM »

Quote from: mame09 on February 04, 2008, 08:59:02 PM

he is going to leave ufc and goto m1 were he can use his "supplements".

thats where mirko show his true fighting skills with soccer kicks and knees

The majority of Cro Cop fights end with a LHK to the head, not soccer kicks.

Bluto · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:23:20 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 05, 2008, 09:18:28 AM

The majority of Cro Cop fights end with a LHK to the head, not soccer kicks.

Haven't you heard? Every single fight in Pride ended with soccer kicks or stomps

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:34:56 AM »

lol...this is why you can't have a reasonable discussion re mma on a bbing site. you invariably get some ignorant stupid fuck that can't tell the difference between a 'soccer kick' and a round house kick.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:27:09 PM »

dana would be stupid

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Bluto · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:30:21 PM »

Quote from: BEAST 8692 on February 05, 2008, 09:34:56 AM

lol...this is why you can't have a reasonable discussion re mma on a bbing site. you invariably get some ignorant stupid fuck that can't tell the difference between a 'soccer kick' and a round house kick.

what are you talking about

heavyNbasic · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2008, 07:25:43 AM »

Quote from: BEAST 8692 on February 05, 2008, 09:34:56 AM

...you invariably get some ignorant stupid fuck that can't tell the difference between a 'soccer kick' and a round house kick.

And a Mod ta boot.

Bluto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2008, 08:13:28 AM »

Quote from: heavyNbasic on February 06, 2008, 07:25:43 AM

And a Mod ta boot.

Huh? mame09 kept talking about how soccer kicks makes a world of difference, they don't, so I made fun of that.

Everybody knows the difference between a soccer kick and a roundhouse so nothing you or beast says make any sense whatsoever.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2008, 09:15:08 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 08:13:28 AM

Huh? mame09 kept talking about how soccer kicks makes a world of difference, they don't, so I made fun of that.

You don't think being kicked in the head when you are on the ground makes a difference?

Bluto · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2008, 09:30:10 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 06, 2008, 09:15:08 AM

You don't think being kicked in the head when you are on the ground makes a difference?

I don't think allowing soccer kicks makes a world of difference. Surely someone like Wanderlei doesn't have to rely on that to win fights.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2008, 09:35:27 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 09:30:10 AM

I don't think allowing soccer kicks makes a world of difference. Surely someone like Wanderlei doesn't have to rely on that to win fights.

Someone kicking you in the head will fuck you up.

Bluto · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2008, 09:42:11 AM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on February 06, 2008, 09:35:27 AM

Someone kicking you in the head will fuck you up.

So will someone elbowing you in the head. So what.

Shouldn't be used as an excuse to try to explain a loss of a fighter the way the Pride fanboys do.

And let's keep in mind here, if goes both ways - what's to say soccer kicks or whatever allowed in Pride wouldn't benefit the UFC fighters if THEY were allowed to use it as well?

Bottom line is, a fighter at Wanderleis level must be able to finish a fight, under different types of rules. Otherwise he ain't much of a MIXED martial artist. And to point out shit like "he wasn't allowed to use soccer kicks" is a poor excuse from a crybaby.