Author Topic: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!! (Read 6596 times)

Voice of Doom · « **on:** February 04, 2008, 08:17:23 PM »

So in the 8 months since the buyout we now have 3 of the 5 UFC titles firmly in PRIDE fighter hands!
And the next most exciting fight features 2 more PRIDE fighters Silva VS Henderson. I suspect the loser to drop weight and take the belt from GSP.

Two more divisions left.....

mame09 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2008, 09:05:49 PM »

just imagine of they were all back on there "supplements"

not one ufc fighter would stand a chance against the weakest pride fighters lol

CARTEL · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2008, 11:06:38 PM »

I too am enjoying the reign of the Pride.

Geo · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2008, 11:31:13 PM »

it is breatheing more life into the UFC that's for damned sure......

can't wait for Silva/Jackson III in the cage

Bluto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:36:06 AM »

That's 1 title.

Rampage holds it.

Nog has yet to fight Randy before he can call himself the champ IMO.

Fury · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2008, 05:40:09 AM »

3 belts baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 of 4 considering PRIDE was missing a class due to lack of obvious talent out there. Those UFC fanboys like Bluto and Mindspin break out in a cold sweat as they watch the cream of the crop in the UFC easily fall victim to Pride fighters.

MindSpin · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2008, 07:28:56 AM »

First of all, there is no Pride. The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps.

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt. The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC.

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him. Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it.

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter. Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses. He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.

Bluto · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2008, 08:56:43 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 07:28:56 AM

First of all, there is no Pride. The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps.

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt. The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC.

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him. Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it.

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter. Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses. He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.

Word.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:35:13 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 07:28:56 AM

First of all, there is no Pride. The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps.

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt. The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC.

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him. Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it.

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter. Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses. He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

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Bluto · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:44:20 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 12:35:13 PM

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

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why is nog a horrible match up?

so anyone who ever fought anywhere outside the ufc and becomes successful in the ufc, is a [insert name]-fighter? (whether it be pride, rings or whatever) ?

Logan32 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:51:49 PM »

Ok guys can we get over this Pride vs. UFC debate. Pride does not exist any longer. Beyond that fact Anderson Silva out of his 24 fights only fought 5 of those fights in Pride. Rampage fought in King of the Cage before he fought in Pride doesn't that make him a KOTC Fighter? Nog started out in World Extreme Fighting before he went to Rings then went to Pride..... Anyway I guess the point is everyone started out someplace before the place they are in now. I mean arguably the most dominant fighter Pride had was Wandy does that make him a UFC fighter because he fought there before Pride?

MindSpin · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:49:32 PM »

Quote from: Logan32 on February 05, 2008, 12:51:49 PM

Ok guys can we get over this Pride vs. UFC debate. Pride does not exist any longer. Beyond that fact Anderson Silva out of his 24 fights only fought 5 of those fights in Pride. Rampage fought in King of the Cage before he fought in Pride doesn't that make him a KOTC Fighter? Nog started out in World Extreme Fighting before he went to Rings then went to Pride..... Anyway I guess the point is everyone started out someplace before the place they are in now. I mean arguably the most dominant fighter Pride had was Wandy does that make him a UFC fighter because he fought there before Pride?

true dat.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:52:22 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 12:44:20 PM

why is nog a horrible match up?

so anyone who ever fought anywhere outside the ufc and becomes successful in the ufc, is a [insert name]-fighter? (whether it be pride, rings or whatever) ?

randy isn't going to just take him to the mat for ground and pounde like he always does, nog will submit him easily

like i told you before anderson made his name in pride to non tuffers

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cht868 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:06:33 PM »

Quote from: Voice of Doom on February 04, 2008, 08:17:23 PM

So in the 8 months since the buyout we now have 3 of the 5 UFC titles firmly in PRIDE fighter hands!
And the next most exciting fight features 2 more PRIDE fighters Silva VS Henderson. I suspect the loser to drop weight and take the belt from GSP.

Two more divisions left.....

neither one of those guys is dropping down to 170 anytime soon imo

Bluto · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:27:47 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 01:52:22 PM

randy isn't going to just take him to the mat for ground and pounde like he always does, nog will submit him easily

like i told you before anderson made his name in pride to non tuffers

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Randy got more tools in his toolbox. He finished Gonzaga standing. He dominated Sylvia for all 5 rounds (where as Nog had big problems with Sylvia)

Anderson did NOT make a name for himself in Pride.

You do not make a name of yourself by LOSING fights and fighting cans. Common sense to anyone but you.

BDsauce · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM »

Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ?

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do?

He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.

Fury · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:54:43 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 12:35:13 PM

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

E

You have to forgive Mindspin and Bluto. They just started watching MMA in 2007 and have no concept of what Pride was. They're trying to assert their novice opinions on a topic they know nothing about. A 40 year old Columbian dork suffering a mid-life crisis who snowboards and chokes out his other 40 year old friends at poker is trying to claim that the UFC is better. Ha ha ha.

Pride holds 3 of the 5 UFC belts. OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact Rampage, who was a subpar Pride fighter, single handedly dismantled what many considered the greatest MMA fighter produced by the UFC in the last 6 years proves how much better Pride was. Chucky Liddell who?

M-1's already better anyway.

Quote from: BDsauce on February 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM

Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ?

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do? He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.

You forgot "entered the UFC and destroyed one of the faces of the organization who was widely hyped up as being pretty much unbeatable."

The Mindspin and Bluto meltdowns are comedic gold. I love TUF fanboys, no matter how much you slap them around, they keep coming back.

Bluto · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:14:18 PM »

Quote from: BDsauce on February 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM

Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ?

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do? He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.

Stiebling went on to lose 4 fights in a row, including getting KO'ed by Marvin Eastman

Carlos Newton was UFC leftovers at that time.

Yeah he got submitted. And when they give him another chance - he get submitted again. Is that how you build a career? Getting your ass kicked?

MB_722 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:30:14 PM »

pride was awesome.

all of it was sooo much better than ufc is.

some of you will never understand.

MindSpin · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:30:53 PM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on February 05, 2008, 02:54:43 PM

You have to forgive Mindspin and Bluto. They just started watching MMA in 2007 and have no concept of what Pride was. They're trying to assert their novice opinions on a topic they know nothing about. A 40 year old Columbian dork suffering a mid-life crisis who snowboards and chokes out his other 40 year old friends at poker is trying to claim that the UFC is better. Ha ha ha.

Pride holds 3 of the 5 UFC belts. OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact Rampage, who was a subpar Pride fighter, single handedly dismantled what many considered the greatest MMA fighter produced by the UFC in the last 6 years proves how much better Pride was. Chucky Liddell who?

M-1's already better anyway.

You forgot "entered the UFC and destroyed one of the faces of the organization who was widely hyped up as being pretty much unbeatable."

The Mindspin and Bluto meltdowns are comedic gold. I love TUF fanboys, no matter how much you slap them around, they keep coming back.

A few facts:
*35 not 40
*Colombian not Columbian
*Been snowboarding/surfing since I was 12
*Been watching UFC since mid 90's.
*Been Studying martial arts on/off since I was 5; been focusing on Krav Maga for the last 3 yrs.
*In terms of "owning", the UFC literally OWNS Pride.

Hope that helps.

What have you done with your life besides spending it on a message forum

Bluto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:31:11 PM »

Quote from: MB_722 on February 05, 2008, 03:30:14 PM

pride was awesome.

all of it was sooo much better than ufc is.

some of you will never understand.

Sometime it was, sometimes it wasn't.

Just like UFC.

cht868 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:00:07 PM »

pride rules in an octagon is what the fans want

Bluto · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:29:25 PM »

Pride fighters in general has done absolutely TERRIBLE since they came to the UFC. This is a fact, so much that people been busy for months discussing WHY that is rather than IF that is.

Even fighters coming outta Pride fighting in the US and winning get criticized - and rightfully so.

NOG didn't impress against Sylvia.

Dan Henderson calls out Paulo Filho saying: "I don't think he has been very impressive in his last two performances since coming to the US but I think that's what not being able to use Steroids will do to you."

So one hand we have the naturals fighting in the UFC - and on the other hand we have the juiced to the grills fighters in Japan. Obviously comparing the two is completely unfair.

Fury · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:43:30 PM »

If Pride fighters haven't been impressive, why do they hold 3 of the 5 belts? What's that say about the level of ability of the UFC fighters? Not much unfortunately. When 2 mid-tier Pride fighters come over and annihilate the best in their division within their first 3 fights, then you know an organization is inferior.

Too bad, so sad Mindspin and Bluto.

I forgot that these two are renaissance men, they've done all and seen all, all while logging hour after hour bragging about it on a forum. Oh brother!!!! Love the meltdowns from you two. It's too easy!

Bluto · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »

You're saying you're impressed with the performances of Shogun, Wanderlei, Soku, Werdum, Crocop, Herring? You can't possibly be. And there's a half dozen more Pride fighters that been slaughtered to add to that list.
Yet you had the highest respect of most of these fighters before they got their ass kicked in the UFC. So if the UFC is so weak, how come they beat nearly every Pride fighter that's been signed?

BTW these are the same people that knocked the shit outta your favorite fighter of all time Arona! (knocked out by Shogun, lost to Wand, knocked out by Soku!) so it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

And Nog, even though he won, you can't have been impressed with his performance either - he got his ass kicked for 3 rounds by Tim Sylvia (!)