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Why Billary/McCain will get pwned.......
« on: February 07, 2008, 12:10:58 PM »
Take a look at what happened on Tuesday in the nearly all-white counties of Idaho, a place where the Aryan Nations once placed a boot print of hate — “the international headquarters of the white race,” as they called it.

The neo-Nazis are long gone. But in Kootenai County, where the extremists were holed up for several decades, a record number of Democrats trudged through heavy snow on Super Duper Tuesday to help pick the next president. Guess what: Senator Barack Obama took 81 percent of Kootenai County caucus voters, matching his landslide across the state. He won all but a single county.

The runaway victory came after a visit by Obama last Saturday, when 14,169 people filled the Taco Bell Arena in Boise to hear him speak – the largest crowd ever to fill the space, for any event. It was the biggest political rally the state has seen in more than 50 years.

“And they told me there were no Democrats in Idaho,” Obama said.

Okay, so Idaho is the prime rib of Red America. Ditto Utah, where Obama beat Senator Hillary Clinton 56 percent to 39 percent on Tuesday, including a 2-1 win in arguably the most Republican community in America – Provo and suburbs, a holdout of Bush dead-enders. Tom Brady will date a nun before these states vote Democratic in a general election.

But those numbers, and exit polling across the nation, make a case for Obama’s electability and the inroads he has made into places where Democrats are harder to find than a decent bagel. Yes, Hillary-hatred is part of it. But something much bigger is going on among independents and white males, something that can’t all be attributed to fear of a powerful woman in a pantsuit.

Having gone through their Hope versus Experience argument, Democrats are moving on to the numbers phase, looking for advantages in the fall. If they want to parse the Geography of Hope, they can do no better than study what happened in red counties on Tuesday.

Overall, Obama won some big, general election swing states: Colorado, Missouri, Minnesota, and a tie in New Mexico, where they may still be counting votes from the 2004 election. All will be crucial in deciding the next president.

His victory in Colorado, by a 2-1 margin, defied most predictions. Four times as many Democrats turned out as were expected, typical of the passion level elsewhere. In Anchorage, Alaska, for example, traffic was backed for nearly a mile from people trying to get into a middle school to become part of an Obama avalanche.

But back to Colorado. Obama won the liberal enclaves, as expected, but then he nearly ran the table in the western part of the state – ranch and mining country — and he did it with more than Brokeback Mountain Democrats. In booming, energy-rich Garfield County, for instance, Obama beat Clinton 72 percent to 27 percent.

“We won in places nobody thought we could win,” an exultant Federico Pena, the former Denver mayor, told a victory crowd on Tuesday night. Obama’s audience a few days earlier – more than 18,000 — was so big that thousands who couldn’t get in huddled on a frozen lacrosse field to hear him.

Now broaden the picture and look at the vote among white males, traditionally the hardest sell for a Democrat. While losing California, Obama won white men in the Golden State, 55 to 35, according to exit polls, and white men in New Mexico, 59-38.

Looking ahead to Saturday, when Washington State, Nebraska, and Louisiana hold contests, Obama should add another three states to the 13 he won on Tuesday. They’re all caucus states, each with distinct advantages for Obama.

His problem – and it’s a big one – is among Latino voters, and older women. He got crushed by Hillary among Hispanics in California and New Mexico. To win the West, Latinos have to be in your camp.

Only slothful thinkers still view Democrats in the West as Prius-driving latte-sippers along the Left Coast. The larger story is about home-grown identity. Eight of the 11 Western States have Democratic governors. The Democrats picked up two Senate seats in the West in the last two national elections, and are poised to pick up two more this year, in Colorado and New Mexico.

Early on, Obama took a chance on the West, sending paid staffers to places like Boise, Idaho and Wenatchee, Washington. And the Alaska office for Obama – that was a knee-slapper at the time, but no one’s laughing now. He won the Last Frontier state by a 3-1 margin Tuesday.

Obama has made cynics wilt, and stirred the heart of long-dead politicos in places where Democrats haven’t had a pulse in years. Cecil Andrus, the eagle-headed eminence of Idaho, a former governor and Democratic cabinet member, nearly lost his voice introducing Obama in Boise on Saturday. He recalled a time when he was a young lumberjack who drove down the Clearwater Valley to see Jack Kennedy speak in Lewiston, a day that changed his life.

“I’m older now, some would suggest in the twilight of a mediocre political career,” Andrus said. “I, like you, can still be inspired. I can still hope.”

This kicked off the second biggest political rally in Idaho history. And the first? That was when President Dwight Eisenhower came to visit. Last week his granddaughter, Susan Eisenhower, made a small bit of family history on her own. She said that if Obama is the nominee, “this lifelong Republican will work to get him elected.”

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Re: Why Billary/McCain will get pwned.......
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 12:13:23 PM »
black kids like me never gave a shit about politics until now.  obama is smart and inspires hope.  everyone else is crooked and been in washington forever and you know it'll be more of the same. they didn't change anything for 30+ years, why would they now?
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 12:18:50 PM »
black kids like me never gave a shit about politics until now. 

Well, there's too few of you to get him elected. You've got to reach out and make friends.

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 12:44:16 PM »
Look @ all the negroids getting excited about Obama.

Crazy John will kick his ass.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 12:46:56 PM »
black kids like me never gave a shit about politics until now.  obama is smart and inspires hope.  everyone else is crooked and been in washington forever and you know it'll be more of the same. they didn't change anything for 30+ years, why would they now?

Yeah he is a stand up guy...

8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A "Dishonorable Mention" last year, Senator Obama moves onto the "ten most wanted" list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin "Tony" Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company's shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »
Hahahahahahahahaha.  Billary's having to disgorge their ill-gotten Washington D.C. gains to stay in the race, meanwhile baby brobama's kicking ass and taking names.


Democrat Barack Obama raised $7.2 million in less than 48 hours post Super Tuesday and rival Hillary Rodham Clinton collected $4 million, giving him a financial edge that's caused consternation within a Clinton campaign clamoring for attention-getting debates.

The remarkable outpouring of contributions recorded since Tuesday's contests in 22 states comes on the heels of an eye-popping $32 million raised by Obama in January and the record-shattering $100 million each Obama and Clinton raised in 2007 in their neck-and-neck race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama has been riding a wave of fundraising from large donors and small Internet contributors. While not matching Obama's pace, Clinton also saw an online surge of donations from 35,000 new contributors since midnight Tuesday, Clinton campaign aides said.

Clinton acknowledged Wednesday that she loaned her campaign $5 million late last month as Obama was outraising and outspending her heading into the Feb. 5 Super Tuesday contests. Some senior staffers on her campaign also are voluntarily forgoing paychecks as the campaign heads into the next round of contests.

Clinton said the loan and salary deferrals were not a sign of financial difficulties.

"No, not at all," Clinton told ABC News in an interview Thursday. "We were outraised in January, which we took steps immediately to address, and I think the results on Super Tuesday showed that we were more than competitive. Since Tuesday we've raised millions of dollars on the Internet, so we're going to be fine.

"And my staff is so dedicated that they stepped up and said, 'Look, this is so important we're going to do our part.' I did my part. So we're going to be in very good financial shape. People are rallying around, and I think by the end of the week we'll be back on track."

Clinton's national finance co-chairman Alan Patricof said Tuesday that fundraisers were targeting many thousands of potential high donors nationally who had not yet given the maximum donation of $2,300 to spend in the primary season.

He also said Clinton planned to return to New York before the end of February to attend a major fundraising gala there.

"We are feeling very positive about the outcome Super Tuesday, and we're attracting a lot of new people who want to contribute. But we know we have to raise a lot of money to be competitive," he said.

Buoyed by strong fundraising and a primary calendar in February that plays to his strengths, Obama plans a campaign blitz through a series of states holding contests this weekend and hopes to win primaries in the Mid-Atlantic next week and Hawaii and Wisconsin the following week.

He campaigned in Louisiana Thursday, vowing to help New Orleans recover from Hurricane Katrina by improving levees, schools and health care, and closely overseeing the Federal Emergency Management Agency if he becomes president. The state holds its contest Saturday.

Obama accused President Bush of failing to do enough to help the Gulf Coast recover from the devastating storm of August 2005. He proposed a multi-faceted program for the area, but did not indicate its total cost or how he would pay for it.

His proposal would help New Orleans hire police officers, repair schools and improve public transit. It would provide financial incentives to attract teachers, businesses and medical professionals.

"When I am president," Obama told about 4,000 people in Tulane University's basketball arena, "we will finish building a system of levees that can withstand a 100-year storm by 2011, with the goal of expanding that protection to defend against a Category 5 storm."

Clinton, with less money to spend and less confident of her prospects in the February contests, plans to concentrate on Ohio and Texas, large states with primaries March 4 and where polling shows her with a significant lead. She even is looking ahead to Pennsylvania's primary April 22, believing a large elderly population there will favor the former first lady.

In a sign of Clinton's increasing concern about Obama's growing strength, her campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, sent a letter Thursday to the Obama campaign seeking five debates between the two candidates before March 4.

"I'm sure we can find a suitable place to meet on the campaign trail," Solis Doyle wrote. "There's too much at stake and the issues facing the country are too grave to deny voters the opportunity to see the candidates up close."

Obama rejected a debate proposed as soon as this Sunday to be broadcast on ABC, but his campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Thursday, "there will definitely be more debates, we just haven't set a schedule yet."

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Re: Why Billary/McCain will get pwned.......
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 12:50:50 PM »
Look @ all the negroids getting excited about Obama.

Crazy John will kick his ass.
He would be better than Hillary but Ron Paul would be better than any of these other psychos.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 12:53:53 PM »
Yeah he is a stand up guy...

8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A "Dishonorable Mention" last year, Senator Obama moves onto the "ten most wanted" list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin "Tony" Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company's shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
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next it'll be dice games in the basement and dog fights on the weekend at an undisclosed Virginia farm........

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »
Guess what: Senator Barack Obama took 81 percent of Kootenai County caucus voters, matching his landslide across the state. He won all but a single county.

Obama got 16,880 votes out of 693,965 registered voters in Idaho.  Clinton got 3,655.  The Republican primary is May 27.  If the purpose of the article was to say that if a black person could win in Idaho, he can win anywhere, the numbers don't support that.   Idaho's 4 electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee, no matter who it is, just like California, Illinois, and New York's combined 107 votes will go to the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 02:36:39 PM »
u obviously are black

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2008, 02:49:40 PM »
Obama got 16,880 votes out of 693,965 registered voters in Idaho.  Clinton got 3,655.  The Republican primary is May 27.  If the purpose of the article was to say that if a black person could win in Idaho, he can win anywhere, the numbers don't support that.   Idaho's 4 electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee, no matter who it is, just like California, Illinois, and New York's combined 107 votes will go to the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

LOL someone busts out with the facts.

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2008, 02:57:23 PM »
They hicks probably just assumed they were voting for the OTHER Baraka...


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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 03:35:29 PM »
OBAMA WILL SLAY BILLARY AND THEN CRUSH MCCAINS BONES INTO POWDER

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 05:09:43 PM »
Obama got 16,880 votes out of 693,965 registered voters in Idaho.  Clinton got 3,655.  The Republican primary is May 27.  If the purpose of the article was to say that if a black person could win in Idaho, he can win anywhere, the numbers don't support that.   Idaho's 4 electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee, no matter who it is, just like California, Illinois, and New York's combined 107 votes will go to the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

So I guess you missed the part where the article mentioned that Idaho is the prime rib of red America?  ::) 

It's a conservative state.....even the Democrats there are conservative, and white, and Obama carried it. That was the point of the article.

The average person knows we didn't have a general election.

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2008, 04:55:03 PM »
Look @ all the negroids getting excited about Obama.

Crazy John will kick his ass.
a lot more than blacks this time.

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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2008, 04:56:33 PM »
black kids like me never gave a shit about politics until now.  obama is smart and inspires hope.  everyone else is crooked and been in washington forever and you know it'll be more of the same. they didn't change anything for 30+ years, why would they now?

youre not black ::)

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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2008, 07:53:22 PM »
youre not black ::)





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Re: Why Billary/McCain will get pwned.......
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2008, 09:20:34 PM »
Obama got 16,880 votes out of 693,965 registered voters in Idaho.  Clinton got 3,655.  The Republican primary is May 27.  If the purpose of the article was to say that if a black person could win in Idaho, he can win anywhere, the numbers don't support that.   Idaho's 4 electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee, no matter who it is, just like California, Illinois, and New York's combined 107 votes will go to the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

Good point, although Obama has already shown he can win Democrat votes in "white" areas by winning Iowa and Wisconsin.