So Stark is against steroids, but for shooting up the City council...

[Triple-H_2005]

Seems a little morally confused to me.

I'm just saying...

[emn1964]

Yes...and gh15 is for shooting up steroids but against the City Council

[The Squadfather]

government's power is getting out of control and this is what happens, maybe these cops will think twice from now on before they fucck with innocent hardworking citizens.

[Triple-H_2005]

Heh..

He screams for juice users to be imprisoned because they break the law, but applauds a man going on a killing rampage because he was penalized for BREAKING THE LAW.

By Stark's logical reasoning, any steroid user would be well within his rights to shoot any police officers that attempt to arrest them.

[The Squadfather]

Heh..

He screams for juice users to be imprisoned because they break the law, but applauds a man going on a killing rampage because he was penalized for BREAKING THE LAW.

By Stark's logical reasoning, any steroid user would be well within his rights to shoot any police officers that attempt to arrest them.

the guy wasn't breaking any fuccking law, gimme a break.

[Triple-H_2005]

government's power is getting out of control and this is what happens, maybe these cops will think twice from now on before they fucck with innocent hardworking citizens.

I agree that the cops were out of hand, but does that justify killing?

There are many laws that infgringe upon free will without hurting others, I believe anti-speroid ligislation to be among these.

Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands every year, but Congress doesn't seem to care.  Hell, heard disease from overating regular FOOD kills how many?

I'm not saying the legislation that led to the tickets is right, I don't know the circumstances.  Maybe he had numerous warnings, who knows?

I just find it ironic that Stark supports legislation that backs up his (unfounded) bias and supports killing over legislation that may or may not have been justified.

In any event, killing is ALWAYS morally south of injecting synthetic testosterone.  There is NO successful argument against that.

[Stark]

I think I have a new stalker

[Triple-H_2005]

the guy wasn't breaking any fuccking law, gimme a break.

Do you know that?  Do you know the zoning laws in his city?  I don't.  Nor did I see it anywhere in the article, that's why I haven't passed judgement on the actions of the officers.

I do know, ordinance or not, justified ticketing or not, there is NO justification for killing people over $1100.00 in parking tickets.

No life is worth that little.

[Triple-H_2005]

I think I have a new stalker

I really just want to understand where you draw the moral line.  Not trying to start a flame war, it just makes no logical sense to me and I'd live to hear your defense/justification.

[The Squadfather]

Do you know that?  Do you know the zoning laws in his city?  I don't.  Nor did I see it anywhere in the article, that's why I haven't passed judgement on the actions of the officers.

I do know, ordinance or not, justified ticketing or not, there is NO justification for killing people over $1100.00 in parking tickets.

No life is worth that little.

like i said these cops should have thought about the consequences before they wrote stupid tickets.

[Stark]

I really just want to understand where you draw the moral line.  Not trying to start a flame war, it just makes no logical sense to me and I'd live to hear your defense/justification.

Don't backpaddle now you lemming, you started throwing shit at me so stand to it and devlop some backbones here.

NOW where do I draw the line? Killing people is never right, but I can understand why he did it, you push somebody too much and he/she will crack sooner or later.
Do I applaud him for standing up for himself? Absolutly! Would I have done the same? On the "right" day under the right circumstances I wouldn't count it out, everybody has his breaking Point.

[wes mantooth]

like i said these cops should have thought about the consequences before they wrote stupid tickets.

youre a harsh fucker squad

the consequences of writing a ticket is death LOL...wow

id hate to be your neighbor......if i dont return the shovel i borrowed quick enough youll chop up my kids

[Triple-H_2005]

like i said these cops should have thought about the consequences before they wrote stupid tickets.

I understand your point, I do.  They were being asses, but I don't think it should have cost anyone their lives.  

Unless I read the article wrong, he didn't even shoot the officers that wrote the tickets, just some random police outside the City Council meeting.  How arre they to blame?

"Damn, let's not go to work today because a co-eorker might have been a bit of an ass and I might get shot..."

See what I mean?

[rocket]

Why are we having two parallel threads on this now

[Stark]

Why are we having two parallel threads on this now

Because Triple-H thought this to be an ideal situation to convince getbig that I'm a hearless
bastard so he can convince himself that shooting steroids is a good thing.

[emn1964]

like i said these cops should have thought about the consequences before they wrote stupid tickets.

so every time a cop issues a citation he has to think about the mental stability of the person that he's giving it to and whether that citation is going to be the one that drives him over the dege and causes him to go apeshit?  Come on dude

[The Squadfather]

youre a harsh fucker squad

the consequences of writing a ticket is death LOL...wow

id hate to be your neighbor......if i dont return the shovel i borrowed quick enough youll chop up my kids

they abused this guy FOR YEARS and what they did is write a ticket FOR EACH OF SEVEN VEHICLES, that's over the top and an abuse of authority, write one ticket not seven.

[Triple-H_2005]

Don't backpaddle now you lemming, you started throwing shit at me so stand to it and devlop some backbones here.

NOW where do I draw the line? Killing people is never right, but I can understand why he did it, you push somebody too much and he/she will crack sooner or later.
Do I applaud him for standing up for himself? Absolutly! Would I have done the same? On the "right" day under the right circumstances I wouldn't count it out, everybody has his breaking Point.

Dude, drop the 'hard-ass gangster' vibe.  I've never acted like that on this board and everyone knows it.  I've never started shit for the sake of it and if I ask a question, it's because I'm genuinely interested in an answer.

I don't need to "develop some backbone" because this is a board, not a street fight.  I didn't throw any shit.  I asked you a question.

Not everyone on here shares the pervasive "attack the other poster" mentality.

[Triple-H_2005]

they abused this guy FOR YEARS and what they did is write a ticket FOR EACH OF SEVEN VEHICLES, that's over the top and an abuse of authority, write one ticket not seven.

Again, was he parked illegally?  Do we know how many warnings he was issued?  Do we know how many were ignored?  Do we know if he got ANY warnings?

I'm just reserving judgement of the cops' actions until I know the full story.

[Triple-H_2005]

Because Triple-H thought this to be an ideal situation to convince getbig that I'm a hearless
bastard so he can convince himself that shooting steroids is a good thing.

Because I consider the two to be related, but still separate points of discussion.

And as I have said before, AAS are not a decision that I have made for myself, but I see no inherent moral wrong to be found within them and, if not for fear of legal ramifications, I might use them myself. 

Conversely, murder of the innocent is morally reprehensible and undefendable.

I can assure you that when I hit 50 or 60 or whenever my test levels decline, I will be on HRT.

I wasn't trying to concvince anyone of anything.  If I had know it was going to hurt your feelings, I'd just have PM'd it to you.

[Stark]

Because I consider the two to be related, but still separate points of discussion.

And as I have said before, AAS are not a decision that I have made for myself, but I see no inherent moral wrong to be found within them and, if not for fear of legal ramifications, I might use them myself. 

Conversely, murder of the innocent is morally reprehensible and undefendable.

I can assure you that when I hit 50 or 60 or whenever my test levels decline, I will be on HRT.

I wasn't trying to concvince anyone of anything.  If I had know it was going to hurt your feelings, I'd just have PM'd it to you.

Oh pleeeeaze

[Triple-H_2005]

Oh pleeeeaze

Bro, it's called irony.  Relax, I'm playing.

See that's the problem with this board.  so many paople are shitty, nobody can see an honest attempt at humor...

Look at my past posts, I don't attack people, and I'm not going to start with you.
 
I was kinda mean to Vince a while back, but I did apologize.

And he deserved it!

[Bluto]

why you try reasoning with squadfather? he's just the typical government-hating-redneck-stereotype
he cant help that he's inbred 

[Triple-H_2005]

why you try reasoning with squadfather? he's just the typical government-hating-redneck-stereotype
he cant help that he's inbred 

"There's still good in him."
-Luke Skywalker

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I like a healthy debate and won't get into flaming.  What's the point, it's the freaking internet.  What are the odds that any of us will actually ever see one another?

[Stark]

why you try reasoning with squadfather? he's just the typical government-hating-redneck-stereotype
he cant help that he's inbred 

I don't agree with a lot Squat says but at least hes not a Government loving lemming

Critical thinking is not something you aquire over night, there is no other way to describe Government clerics as
lying corrupt cocksuckers