'Industry expert' pertinent question for the great (g)(h)*(3x5) = gh15

[Alex23]

What's your take on Scott Jensen aka Author L. Rea? The man was all over in the late '90s early 2000s, has worked with many pros, has been credited many times as the man who "rebuilt" Toney Freeman, has written numerous "controversial" books, is for one academically trained as a biochemist and now runs a successful supplement company named ALRI (http://www.alrindustries.com/)

The man seems controversial but he has proved results and of the late his supplements are quoted as being the most potent and relevant in the industry.


What's your take on this guru?

[candidate2025]

i didnt know alri had such a reputable owner...?    now im going to try their restore product.

[Van_Bilderass]

I'll tell you what I think. He is a fool and a fraud.

[Alex23]

i didnt know alri had such a reputable owner...?    now im going to try their restore product.

I rarely rave about supplements as ALL of them are overpriced and overpackaged.

His Venom line is however worth every penny. Ask FlexingstonSteele about it, while at it, Ask AD too...

[Alex23]

I'll tell you what I think. He is a fool and a fraud.

Are you gh15?

[candidate2025]

I rarely rave about supplements as ALL of them are overpriced and overpackaged.

His Venom line is however worth every penny. Ask FlexingstonSteele about it, while at it, Ask AD too...

he already told me that that is what he takes pre-cardio in the morning when i inquired about it....but i just figured it was just because of its price..   by the ingredient listing it doesnt seem any better than lipo 6x,rapid cuts, or jetfuel.. 

if im going to use a stimulant i normally just go with 25-75 mg ephedrine sulfate 200-400 mg caffiene.. 

ill have to try it out now..       there WAS a few ingredient on there that i wasnt familiar with

[Van_Bilderass]

Are you gh15?

So you think you should have a thread on the G&O just for you two?

[Alex23]

So you think you should have a thread on the G&O just for you two?

No. You're entitled to your opinion, it's just no worth much considering how hard you hide behind your keyboard but yet seem to have infuse knowledge on everything.

[calmus]

 

His Venom line is however worth every penny. 

Isn't that what Laura Arvilla was on? 

[Van_Bilderass]

No. You're entitled to your opinion, it's just no worth much considering how hard you hide behind your keyboard but yet seem to have infuse knowledge on everything.

Well, that's what these boards are all about. Mostly anonymous posters giving their opinion on things. Take it for what it is.

Do you use his steroid products yourself? Like the Jungle Warfare, etc?

[GetItOnNY]

.Who can trust a man who doesnt even even user his real name ?How do you go from Scott Jensen to Author L Rea? Atleast Bill Philips used hisl real name.A persons character leaves clues, meaning if he is being deceptive about his name what else is he being deceptive about?Plus ALRI was endorsing my friend Art Atwood, and didnt even keep there end of the bargain. They used Arts pictures in all there adds, and didnt give him what was promised in the endorsement.
Plus the guy claims to be a guru, but not once has ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage.Thats like the blind leading the blind .
Plus if you saw pics of him they are far from impressive,.

I have looked at his products and his raw materials, and not one of his products costs at most $6 a bottle to manufacture.Nothing in them is "cutting edge"and nothing in them is anything really great.
His Venom products is another Joke, just go out and buy a bottle of ECA, it works 10 times better, and is probably cheaper.
I have been in the industry 12 years, and I manufacture products for over 24 diffrent companies, so I know what it costs to make anything you can imagine.We sell over 80,000 lbs of protein per month, and growing

[Van_Bilderass]

ARLI, supplements are junk!!!!! .Who can trust a man who doesnt even even user his real name ?How do you go from Scott Jensen to Author L Rea? Atleast Bill Philips used hisl real name.A persons character leaves clues, meaning if he is being deceptive about his name what else is he being deceptive about?Plus ALRI was endorsing my friend Art Atwood, and didnt even keep there end of the bargain. They used Arts pictures in all there adds, and didnt give him what was promised in the endorsement.
Plus the guy claims to be a guru, but not once has ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage.Thats like the blind leading the blind .
Plus if you saw pics of him they are far from impressive,.

I have looked at his products and his raw materials, and not one of his products costs at most $6 a bottle to manufacture.Nothing in them is "cutting edge"and nothing in them is anything really great.
His Venom products is another Joke, just go out and buy a bottle of ECA, it works 10 times better, and is probably cheaper.
I have been in the industry 12 years, and I manufacture products for over 24 diffrent companies, so I know what it costs to make anything you can imagine.We sell over 80,000 lbs of protein per month, and growing

The main problem with his supplements is that you don't know what the hell is in there half the time. He uses faulty terminology and nomenclature. There have been long discussions and arguments on bb.com where people are trying to figure out what some of his supplements contain. Then someone tests it, the results are argued about, and so on. Like the jungle Warfare I mentioned. It was supposed to be "non hormonal" but turned out to be an anabolic steroid. There was a newspaper article stating that testing showed there were Dianabol traces in there as well. Stuff like this doesn't really instill confidence in a company.

Though I was arguing with you too about the nomenclature on your fat burner a while ago. 

[willl]

he already gave his opinion about this guru and several others 'gurus' in some other thread

it was the same conclusion as bilderass'es

[GetItOnNY]

WELL,What can you beleive? The guy has a made up name, and uses made up names on alot of his products.I have looked at his products, and alot of the chemicals he uses are very animated.
Thats why I said it before and I will say it again, just stick with a good ECA stakc, atleast you know what your getting.

[Alex23]

I'm not married with the guy and admit he often look oily, but fact are he has turned around many 'burned out' competitors into winners

These are facts and he has done it many times. How do you explain that?

[GetItOnNY]

Who did he help out? Or who did he say he helped out? Everybody in this industry claims to be a guru, but most of the "socalled " guru's dont know jack shit.They say I helped out this person or that person, then you go ask the person they supposably helped out, and the person goes, "who.They have no clue who the person is that supposably helped them out.
Scott Jensen, or Arther L Rea, what ever name he chooses to uses that day, has some knowledge, but is no means a "guru".
He has some backround in bodybuilding, but thats about it.He never stepped on a stage, and if he did, he wouldnt do very well.He has a " good gym " body, decent arms, alot of synthol in the delts, and a big midection.
He has company that does quite well, with attractive packaging, but there is no rocket science to his products.

[Alex23]

Who did he help out? Or who did he say he helped out? Everybody in this industry claims to be a guru, but most of the "socalled " guru's dont know jack shit.They say I helped out this person or that person, then you go ask the person they supposably helped out, and the person goes, "who.They have no clue who the person is that supposably helped them out.
Scott Jensen, or Arther L Rea, what ever name he chooses to uses that day, has some knowledge, but is no means a "guru".
He has some backround in bodybuilding, but thats about it.He never stepped on a stage, and if he did, he wouldnt do very well.He has a " good gym " body, decent arms, alot of synthol in the delts, and a big midection.
He has company that does quite well, with attractive packaging, but there is no rocket science to his products.

He's 55yo.

Toney Freeman said many times he couldn'tve made his comeback without him, that is and they are others.

You seem pretty bitter...

[GetItOnNY]

Let me apologise, for bashing ARLI supplements, they arent the best, but they arent bad either.I know alot of stores that sell alot of products.I am not bitter, I am just concerned with the Whole Scoot Jensen changing his name to Arthur L Rea.Why the name change? What is he hiding.
As far as him helping alot of people out, well maybe he helped a few people out with a little advice, but thats about it.I have read some of his theories and they arent bad, but they arent cutting edge either.
Unless you have stepped on a bodybuilding stage, atlleast at a national level, then I cannot take your advice seriously.
I am telling you, there is a big diffrence between looking good in the gym, and being at 3.5% bodyfat in just posing trunks.When  you diet and train so hard that the last 3 weeks you cannot function. You set your keys down , forget where you put them ,the only thing keeping you functioning is ECA, and adrenaline..
I have helped alot, I mean alot of bodybuilders, I currently help out 6 top pro bodybuilders, with supplements.3 in the top 10 MR 0.They love my protein powder,ECA,Kre-Alkalyn, BCAAS, L-Glutamine,Waxey Maize Starch, and custom formulations.
My point is Arthur L -Rea, has done really well for himself, and god bless him, I hope his company coninues to grow.I just wouldnt consider him a " guru" when it comes to giving advice

[BFP]

Alex, be careful with this company.  Patrick Arnold (Ergopharm and the "clear") has done a few assays on his stuff, and IIRC alot of it contained steroid compounds.  You can look on bb,.com to find it.  Also, and this is just opinion, his products have the WORST names ever.  UJungle Warfare?  Bad Ass Mass?  Gayer than a boner at the ncaa wrestling championships.

Jason

[Van_Bilderass]

Alex, be careful with this company.  Patrick Arnold (Ergopharm and the "clear") has done a few assays on his stuff, and IIRC alot of it contained steroid compounds.  You can look on bb,.com to find it.  Also, and this is just opinion, his products have the WORST names ever.  UJungle Warfare?  Bad Ass Mass?  Gayer than a boner at the ncaa wrestling championships.

Jason

Yup.

Anyone listen to the latest NB Radio? Rea said Viagra is more anabolic than any anabolic steroid. 

[Alex23]

Alex, be careful with this company.  Patrick Arnold (Ergopharm and the "clear") has done a few assays on his stuff, and IIRC alot of it contained steroid compounds.  You can look on bb,.com to find it.  Also, and this is just opinion, his products have the WORST names ever.  UJungle Warfare?  Bad Ass Mass?  Gayer than a boner at the ncaa wrestling championships.

Jason

I'll take Patrick Arnold's word over any of these "gurus"; I met Scott a couple of times and he seemed like a decent knowledgeable guy to me. Again how much can you tell from that.

Agree the naming pattern are extremely gay in the same class as "asylum, explosion, rush etc.." typical targeting 12" arms 17yo...

To be honest, I used to rave about his "Building the perfect beast" back when I was planning on juicing and see what would happen. It just seemed out of the box and logical.

Since then I've come to realize how big his "standard deviation" is from the rest of the pack who does stuff that "works" (legal or not)


Bottom line is I'm simply asking for opinions... from anonymous "internetized" 265lb+ beasts @3% of BF .. what am I thinking..

[BFP]

I'll take Patrick Arnold's word over any of these "gurus"; I met Scott a couple of times and he seemed like a decent knowledgeable guy to me. Again how much can you tell from that.

Agree the naming pattern are extremely gay in the same class as "asylum, explosion, rush etc.." typical targeting 12" arms 17yo...

To be honest, I used to rave about his "Building the perfect beast" back when I was planning on juicing and see what would happen. It just seemed out of the box and logical.

Since then I've come to realize how big his "standard deviation" is from the rest of the pack who does stuff that "works" (legal or not)


Bottom line is I'm simply asking for opinions... from anonymous "internetized" 265lb+ beasts @3% of BF .. what am I thinking..

I cant speak on the quality of his stuff, as Ive used very little of it.  I got a bottle o flean dreams, and it helped my sleep a touch, but did fuckall for fat loss.

Jason

[Dragon]

'bad ass mass'  'lean dreams' 
very creative

[BFP]

'bad ass mass'  'lean dreams' 
very creative

A 16 year old bb.com kid named b.a.m.  They also have one called "wtf?"  or some shit like that.

Jason