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Intelligent Design at its best!
« on: February 09, 2008, 06:09:36 PM »
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2008, 12:54:48 PM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on February 09, 2008, 06:09:36 PM


he created here like that for a purpose,  because he loves her.

if she doesnt except jesus she will burn in hell.

except jesus or else?

if you dont beleive exactly what they do you will burn in hell, you have to.
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2008, 01:41:07 PM »
You are being willingly ignorant (stupid on purpose).
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2008, 02:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Eisenherz on February 10, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
You are being willingly ignorant (stupid on purpose).

yes and no. this brief example shows how intelligent design is not intelligent. lets use their argument, its complex or appears designed then it is designed. A watch needs a watchmaker because its parts coerce in unison and appear complex.

this baby appears to have no funtionality and appears to be less then optimal. Its poor design, or no design at all would indicate no intelligence.


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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2008, 02:24:15 PM »
Assuming the picture is authentic, it's obviously some kind of defect. 
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2008, 02:41:57 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 02:24:15 PM
Assuming the picture is authentic, it's obviously some kind of defect. 

well god made it that way, so no its not a defect its exactly the way it should be.
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2008, 02:51:48 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 10, 2008, 02:41:57 PM
well god made it that way, so no its not a defect its exactly the way it should be.

No He didn't. 
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2008, 04:29:06 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 02:51:48 PM
No He didn't. 

Satan...did it....muhahahhahahaha
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 04:52:42 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 02:51:48 PM
No He didn't. 

god has every hair on your head numbered, he is all knowing, he plans every detail of your life for a purpose.


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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2008, 04:58:02 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 10, 2008, 04:52:42 PM
god has every hair on your head numbered, he is all knowing, he plans every detail of your life for a purpose.




And all the dumps you take as well as every wipe to clean your arse!  :D
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2008, 05:08:00 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 10, 2008, 04:52:42 PM
god has every hair on your head numbered, he is all knowing, he plans every detail of your life for a purpose.




What does that have to do with genetic defects? 
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2008, 05:35:38 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 05:08:00 PM
What does that have to do with genetic defects? 

Sun in Hawaii getting to you Fundy? :o
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2008, 05:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on February 10, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
Sun in Hawaii getting to you Fundy? :o

Not at all Troll.   :)
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2008, 06:59:26 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 05:08:00 PM
What does that have to do with genetic defects? 

it wasnt a genetic defect if god planned on the baby coming out liek that, chance doesnt exist in a pre planned world. god didnt make a mistake did he?
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2008, 07:37:17 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 10, 2008, 06:59:26 PM
it wasnt a genetic defect if god planned on the baby coming out liek that, chance doesnt exist in a pre planned world. god didnt make a mistake did he?

God no more planned a genetic defect than he did a crack baby.  No coincidence that a disproportionate number of these weird birth defects occur in places where the standard of living is pretty low.   
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2008, 07:53:18 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 07:37:17 PM
God no more planned a genetic defect than he did a crack baby.  No coincidence that a disproportionate number of these weird birth defects occur in places where the standard of living is pretty low.   

your missing my point whether intentionally or unintentionally.

god plans every birth, has a purpose for everyone. the crack baby is gods plan.
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2008, 08:29:31 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 10, 2008, 07:53:18 PM
your missing my point whether intentionally or unintentionally.

god plans every birth, has a purpose for everyone. the crack baby is gods plan.

Dude I'm not missing your point, I just don't agree with your point.  He doesn't plan the birth as a result of a rape.  He doesn't plan births of people who have sex out of wedlock.  He doesn't plan crack babies.  He doesn't a low birth weight baby when a mother smokes during pregnancy.  He still blesses people who create babies when they shouldn't, but those certainly are planned.   
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2008, 08:23:58 AM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 10, 2008, 08:29:31 PM
Dude I'm not missing your point, I just don't agree with your point.  He doesn't plan the birth as a result of a rape.  He doesn't plan births of people who have sex out of wedlock.  He doesn't plan crack babies.  He doesn't a low birth weight baby when a mother smokes during pregnancy.  He still blesses people who create babies when they shouldn't, but those certainly are planned.   

thats not what the bible says, you cant have it both ways. either god is in complete control or he is not all knowing, hence he didnt know this baby would be created. your playing both sides, attributing the good to god and the bad to chance, when god is suppose to be all knowing.

a surprise  baby violates this attribute.
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2008, 10:42:49 AM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 11, 2008, 08:23:58 AM
thats not what the bible says, you cant have it both ways. either god is in complete control or he is not all knowing, hence he didnt know this baby would be created. your playing both sides, attributing the good to god and the bad to chance, when god is suppose to be all knowing.

a surprise  baby violates this attribute.

O Rly?  Where does the Bible say genetic defects are planned?  That low birth weight babies from mothers who smoke are planned?  Crack babies?  Enlighten me.

And when pointing me to those references, include the ones that talk about choice.   
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2008, 03:05:02 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 11, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
O Rly?  Where does the Bible say genetic defects are planned?  That low birth weight babies from mothers who smoke are planned?  Crack babies?  Enlighten me.

And when pointing me to those references, include the ones that talk about choice.   

i posted a video a while back where the bible specifically says every death and birth is planned by god.

i can get it if you want. i dont have to find a passage that says crack babies etc, just one that says every birth and your argument is sunk.
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2008, 06:21:33 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 11, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
O Rly?  Where does the Bible say genetic defects are planned?  That low birth weight babies from mothers who smoke are planned?  Crack babies?  Enlighten me.

And when pointing me to those references, include the ones that talk about choice.   

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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 10:20:20 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 11, 2008, 03:05:02 PM
i posted a video a while back where the bible specifically says every death and birth is planned by god.

i can get it if you want. i dont have to find a passage that says crack babies etc, just one that says every birth and your argument is sunk.

Show me the Biblical support that God plans genetic defects and all of the births that result from inadvisable, improper, and/or illegal behavior. 
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2008, 11:05:07 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 11, 2008, 10:20:20 PM
Show me the Biblical support that God plans genetic defects and all of the births that result from inadvisable, improper, and/or illegal behavior. 

Bum -

god created everything

including genetic defects


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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2008, 11:11:26 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on February 11, 2008, 11:05:07 PM
Bum -

god created everything

including genetic defects


That's ridiculous.  Man-made problems are not created by God. 
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Re: Intelligent Design at its best!
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2008, 11:19:08 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on February 11, 2008, 11:11:26 PM
That's ridiculous.  Man-made problems are not created by God. 

man made?

I know where you're going with man made angle but birth defects happen with within "normal" populations every day.  I have friend who has a son with profound birth defect and he and his wife also have a perfectly healthy daughter

of course god makes people with birth defects

who else do you think is making them?
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