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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2008, 01:43:02 AM »
Prime Tyson would be taken down, ground and pounded or submitted rather easily.  The reason Chuck has such good takedown defense is because he wrestled D1, something Iron Mike didn't and wouldn't do.  No way anyone would have stood in front of Iron Mike, everyone would have been shooting, working an ankle pick, inside trip.  Wrestlers translate better to MMA than pure strikers. 

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2008, 05:34:00 AM »
Prime Tyson would be taken down, ground and pounded or submitted rather easily.  The reason Chuck has such good takedown defense is because he wrestled D1, something Iron Mike didn't and wouldn't do.  No way anyone would have stood in front of Iron Mike, everyone would have been shooting, working an ankle pick, inside trip.  Wrestlers translate better to MMA than pure strikers. 


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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2008, 05:08:15 PM »
1.the only way mike Tyson will ever do mma is if he get paid minimum $10,000,000  which will never happen.

2. Tyson will fight similar to rampage or chuck and so far there doing pretty good against wrestlers.

3. no one will even step in the cage with him because everyone knows even a retired tyson who hasnt fought in years will still KTFO anyone.



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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2008, 05:13:16 PM »
1.the only way mike Tyson will ever do mma is if he get paid minimum $10,000,000  which will never happen.



I disagree.
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2008, 05:16:03 PM »
3. no one will even step in the cage with him because everyone knows even a retired tyson who hasnt fought in years will still KTFO anyone.

i completely disagree with that asshole statement
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2008, 06:27:12 PM »
1.the only way mike Tyson will ever do mma is if he get paid minimum $10,000,000  which will never happen.

2. Tyson will fight similar to rampage or chuck and so far there doing pretty good against wrestlers.

3. no one will even step in the cage with him because everyone knows even a retired tyson who hasnt fought in years will still KTFO anyone.




I disagree with the whole post. I will give a rebutle for each one.

#1 Tyson would do gay porn for 10 million as of right now. Okay maybe not that far, but I bet you anything if Tyson was offered a flat million to fight we would see him back. The reason why Tyson doesn't do uFC is because No one is going to pay him anything over half a million in my opinion. (That's giving him some real credit.) Tyson wouldn't have a huge career in MMA he would be like old Mercer and if he losses his 1st fight then he is no longer a huge draw.

#2 Chuck and Rampage both have years of training. As mentioned by American Bulldog Chuck was D-1 Wrestler which is kind of a big deal. I don't care what D-1 school that's some tough shit.
Tyson has no training in take down defense. Nor does he have training in doing anything when it comes to the ground. He hasn't trained much to throw punches on the ground. I would imagine a similar thing to how Brock throws punches.(Hammer Fist)

#3 I gurantee there would be plenty of people willing to step in a cage with Tyson. Always remember there is someone bigger and Badder. We have already seen Evander beat his ass twice. Plus who wouldn't want Tyson on their record for a KO or Submission. I mean his name is still "Iron Mike Tyson." Didn't Tyson say in the PIN he had to fight a couple of times, if some convicts tried to fight Tyson and a whole bunch of "Can" boxers fought a prime Tyson why wouldn't an MMA guy?

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2008, 09:01:57 PM »
I disagree with the whole post. I will give a rebutle for each one.

#1 Tyson would do gay porn for 10 million as of right now. Okay maybe not that far, but I bet you anything if Tyson was offered a flat million to fight we would see him back.



I think so too.
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2008, 09:11:05 PM »
I disagree with the whole post. I will give a rebutle for each one.

#1 Tyson would do gay porn for 10 million as of right now. Okay maybe not that far, but I bet you anything if Tyson was offered a flat million to fight we would see him back. The reason why Tyson doesn't do uFC is because No one is going to pay him anything over half a million in my opinion. (That's giving him some real credit.) Tyson wouldn't have a huge career in MMA he would be like old Mercer and if he losses his 1st fight then he is no longer a huge draw.

#2 Chuck and Rampage both have years of training. As mentioned by American Bulldog Chuck was D-1 Wrestler which is kind of a big deal. I don't care what D-1 school that's some tough shit.
Tyson has no training in take down defense. Nor does he have training in doing anything when it comes to the ground. He hasn't trained much to throw punches on the ground. I would imagine a similar thing to how Brock throws punches.(Hammer Fist)

#3 I gurantee there would be plenty of people willing to step in a cage with Tyson. Always remember there is someone bigger and Badder. We have already seen Evander beat his ass twice. Plus who wouldn't want Tyson on their record for a KO or Submission. I mean his name is still "Iron Mike Tyson." Didn't Tyson say in the PIN he had to fight a couple of times, if some convicts tried to fight Tyson and a whole bunch of "Can" boxers fought a prime Tyson why wouldn't an MMA guy?

I'm going to bring up my statement from before.. how many MMA guys do you think have a chin that could take a few dead on shots from Tyson in 4oz. gloves ??.... everything else aside, just answer that question for me..  MMA fighters don't train for hard punching power like boxers do, yes they excel at other things but there's barely any MMA guys with iron chins and heavy hands (and no I don't consider chuck lidell to have heavy hands compared to a pro boxer at least..)

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2008, 09:17:09 PM »
I disagree with the whole post. I will give a rebutle for each one.

#1 Tyson would do gay porn for 10 million as of right now. Okay maybe not that far, but I bet you anything if Tyson was offered a flat million to fight we would see him back. The reason why Tyson doesn't do uFC is because No one is going to pay him anything over half a million in my opinion. (That's giving him some real credit.) Tyson wouldn't have a huge career in MMA he would be like old Mercer and if he losses his 1st fight then he is no longer a huge draw.

#2 Chuck and Rampage both have years of training. As mentioned by American Bulldog Chuck was D-1 Wrestler which is kind of a big deal. I don't care what D-1 school that's some tough shit.
1Tyson has no training in take down defense. Nor does he have training in doing anything when it comes to the ground. He hasn't trained much to throw punches on the ground. I would imagine a similar thing to how Brock throws punches.(Hammer Fist)

#3 I gurantee there would be plenty of people willing to step in a cage with Tyson. Always remember there is someone bigger and Badder. We have already seen Evander beat his ass twice. Plus who wouldn't want Tyson on their record for a KO or Submission. I mean his name is still "Iron Mike Tyson." Didn't Tyson say in the PIN he had to fight a couple of times, if some convicts tried to fight Tyson and a whole bunch of "Can" boxers fought a prime Tyson why wouldn't an MMA guy?



1. tyson use to make millions to fight so why would he fight for anything less. because he is poor and broke come on man he use to spend that in a roll of craps and he still has his pride not to fight for anything less.

2. i dont care if liddell  was in d1 or wwf he wouldnt last 30 seconds with him in the ring, cage or a street fight. even if he is on the ground he will still knockout fighters.

3. in prison there is people who are doing life who dont got nothing to lose so i dont think anyone or anything scares them. tyson isnt an idiot to brawler with a lifer unless your serving something similar not 3years.

4. his last fight with lewis he got paid $30 million for a tyson not in his prime

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2008, 09:20:10 PM »


1. tyson use to make millions to fight so why would he fight for anything less. because he is poor and broke come on man he use to spend that in a roll of craps and he still has his pride not to fight for anything less.



In 2006 he opened his training to the general public for like 10 bucks a pop I think. If I remember correctly he fought some under publicized fight because he was broke.

http://boxing.about.com/b/2006/10/21/tyson-and-sanders-go-a-boring-four.htm
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2008, 02:41:17 AM »


1. tyson use to make millions to fight so why would he fight for anything less. because he is poor and broke come on man he use to spend that in a roll of craps and he still has his pride not to fight for anything less.

2. i dont care if liddell  was in d1 or wwf he wouldnt last 30 seconds with him in the ring, cage or a street fight. even if he is on the ground he will still knockout fighters.

3. in prison there is people who are doing life who dont got nothing to lose so i dont think anyone or anything scares them. tyson isnt an idiot to brawler with a lifer unless your serving something similar not 3years.

4. his last fight with lewis he got paid $30 million for a tyson not in his prime

1.  No boxing promoter would put him on a card.  Could he even get licensed to fight in boxing now, what commision would issue him a license. 

2.  Lidell would put Tyson on his back just like he did Wandy.

3.  NO relevance.

4.  See answer number one. 

Coltrane, I have seen Egan Inoue take down Dennis Alexio at will.  Dennis wouldn't train with Egan after that.  This is when "Kaheke" was the undisputed heavyweight kickboxing champ.  Stand up fighters with no wrestling backround will end up on their backs all day.  Renzo was able to take down a superior stand up fighter in Frank Shamrock, and Shamrock has takedown defense.  Imagine how a one trick pony like a boxer would do?  Not very well.  Of course if you actually trained, you would know that. 


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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2008, 07:37:11 AM »
Sorry i'm not an "Mixed martial artist" like you bro.  I did take Kung fu as a child if that counts. ;D

I'm sorry, i just don't see a dude "shooting" in on Tyson as easily as you all think.  In his prime, Tyson was so fast and could hit the FASTEST of MOVING targets from ALL ANGLES.  Believe what you want, but IMO he woulda dominated EASILY. 

And as for Tyson in his prime versus Liddell?   ARE YOU KIDDING ME??  Liddell would easily win?  Dude, you must be on drugs and/or just naive

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2008, 01:07:35 PM »
Sorry i'm not an "Mixed martial artist" like you bro.  I did take Kung fu as a child if that counts. ;D

I'm sorry, i just don't see a dude "shooting" in on Tyson as easily as you all think.  In his prime, Tyson was so fast and could hit the FASTEST of MOVING targets from ALL ANGLES.  Believe what you want, but IMO he woulda dominated EASILY. 

And as for Tyson in his prime versus Liddell?   ARE YOU KIDDING ME??  Liddell would easily win?  Dude, you must be on drugs and/or just naive

Hahahaha...agreed totally!  like his D-1 wrestling skills are gonna make a difference against a PRIME Tyson, or even better.. would love to see Chuck stand and try to bang with Tyson, Hahahahaha!!!! a jab from Tyson would knock Chuck out of the octagon and into 3rd row seats!

Especially after Chuck got KTFO by Rampage with what wasn't even a good or hard shot... you're telling me Rampage has power like Tyson ?!?!!? LOLOLOL

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2008, 01:11:25 PM »
Proof is in the pudding...


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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2008, 02:31:08 PM »
Its super funny how these MMA dudes are downplaying the amount of talent, speed, and skill Tyson had.  I'd bet money that Tyson today would still make Liddell look like shit. 

Oh, but thats right....Chuck would "shoot in" and Tyson would be a goner.  HA

Isn't boxing all about ring movement and avoidance in the first place?

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2008, 03:42:59 PM »
Proof is in the pudding...



absolutely awesome wrestling skills displayed there by chuck... ::)

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2008, 04:36:19 PM »
I haven't paid attention to this thread... I take it there's 2 sides?

Who's on each side respectively? I wanna take sides!  :)
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2008, 04:46:13 PM »
Its super funny how these MMA dudes are downplaying the amount of talent, speed, and skill Tyson had.  I'd bet money that Tyson today would still make Liddell look like shit. 

Oh, but thats right....Chuck would "shoot in" and Tyson would be a goner.  HA

Isn't boxing all about ring movement and avoidance in the first place?


   yes boxing about ring movement and avoidance, but thats not tysons game
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2008, 07:02:12 PM »
lol i love how people say if he shoots him its over. 

have any of yous ever been in a street fight the second he tries to shoot dont you think he could knee him in the the head or better yet punch him in the head  and that would end it right there.

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2008, 07:07:58 PM »
I really can't believe that Capt. Equip and myself are the only ones to think Tyson would do well....unreal..
any boxer will openly tell ya he'd get his ass kicked in an MMA contest...

it's no secret einstien

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2008, 07:11:18 PM »
any boxer will openly tell ya he'd get his ass kicked in an MMA contest...

it's no secret einstien

whatabout kimbo

and thats EINSTEIN, you moron
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2008, 07:15:53 PM »
whatabout kimbo



kimbo can shampoo my crotch....







got any other stupid questions ?

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2008, 07:17:43 PM »
kimbo can shampoo my crotch....







got any other stupid questions ?

wouldnt it be even stupider to not ask a question smarty pants
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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2008, 07:42:00 PM »
I haven't paid attention to this thread... I take it there's 2 sides?

Who's on each side respectively? I wanna take sides!  :)
One side says Mike Tyson could kick ass in MMA the other side says no way.


Which side are you on?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: How would Mike Tyson do if he was in the UFC in his prime?
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2008, 07:47:04 PM »
One side says Mike Tyson could kick ass in MMA the other side says no way.


Which side are you on?

whos on each side im used to be on the winning team
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