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Your Petro Dollars At Work
« on: February 12, 2008, 08:58:13 AM »
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Wow, I knew Dubai was  growing quickly, and pretty lavishly, but this is amazing and truly spectacular!

The Growth of Dubai



Dubai in 1990 prior to the craziness



The same street in 2003



Last year



The madness. Dubai is said to currently have 15-25% of all the worlds cranes



The Dubai Waterfront. When completed it will become the largest waterfront development in the world



All this was built in the last 5 years, including that island that looks like a palm tree



The Palm Islands in Dubai.

New Dutch dredging technology was used to create these massive man made islands.
They are the largest artificial islands in the world and can be seen from space.
Three of these Palms will be made with the last one being the largest of them all.




Upon completion, the resort will have 2,000 villas, 40 luxury hotels, shopping centers, movie theatres, and many other facilities.

It is expected to support a population of approximately 500,000 people.
It is advertised as being visible from the moon.




The World Islands. 300 artificially created islands in the shape of the world.
Each island will have an estimated cost of $25-30 million




The Burj al-Arab hotel in Dubai. The world's tallest hotel. Considered the only "7 star" hotel
and the most luxurious hotel in the world. It stands on an artificial island in the sea.




Hydropolis, the world's first underwater hotel. Entirely built in Germany and then assembled in Dubai,
it is scheduled to be completed by 2009 after many delays.



The Burj Dubai. Construction began in 2005 and is expected to be complete by 2008. At an estimated height of over 800 metres, it will easily be the world's tallest building when finished. it will be almost 40% taller than the current tallest building, the Taipei 101.



This is what downtown Dubai will look like around 2009. More than 140 stories of the Burj Dubai have already beeen completed.

It is already the world's tallest man made structure and it is still not scheduled to be completed for at least another year.




The Al burj. This will be the centerpiece of the Dubai Waterfront.
Once completed it will take over the title of the tallest structure in the world from the Burj Dubai.




Recently it was announced that the final height of this tower will be 1200 metres.

That would make it more than 30% taller than the Burj Dubai and 3x's as tall as the Empire State building.



The Burj al Alam, or The World Tower. Upon completion it will rank as the world's highest hotel.

It is expected to be finished by 2009. At 480 metres, it will be only 28 metres shorter than the Taipei 101.


 
The Trump International Hotel & Tower, which will be the centrepiece of one of the palm islands. The Palm Jumeirah.



Dubailand. Currently, the largest amusement park collection in the world is Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, which is also the largest single-site employer in the United States with 58,000 employees.



Dubailand will be twice the size.





Dubailand will be built on 3 billion square feet (107 miles2) at an estimated $20 billion price tag.
The site will include a purported 45 mega projects, and 200 other smaller projects.



Dubai Sports City. A huge collection of sports arena located in Dubailand.



Currently, the Walt Disney World Resort is the #1 tourist destination in the world. Once fully completed,
Dubailand will easily take over that title since it is expected to atttract 200,000 visitors daily.




The dubai Marina is an entirely man made development that will contain over 200 highrise buildings when finished.

It will be home to some of the tallest residential structures in the world. The completed first phase of the project is shown.

Most of the other high rise buildings will be finished by 2009-2010.



The Dubai Mall will be the largest shopping mall in the world with over 9 million square feet of shopping an around 1000 stores. It will be completed in 2008.



Ski Dubai, which is already open, is the largest indoor facility in the world.
This is a rendered image of another future indoor ski facility that is being planned.



Some of the tallest buildings in the world, such as Ocean Heights and the Princess Tower, which will be the largest residential building in the world at over a 100 stories, will line the Dubai Marina. The UAE Spaceport would be the first spaceport in the world if construction ever gets under way.

The Dubai Metro system, once completed, will become the largest fully automated rail system in the world.

The Dubai World Central International Airport will become the largest airport in size when it is completed.

It will also eventually become the businest airport in the world, based on passenger volume.


There are more construction workers in Dubai than there are actual citizens.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 09:03:57 AM »
This could have been Saudi Arabia had the arabs not been so greedy. The leaders of the UAE pump money back into their country as opposed to the Sauds...a mistake on our part.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 09:20:51 AM »
This could have been Saudi Arabia had the arabs not been so greedy. The leaders of the UAE pump money back into their country as opposed to the Sauds...a mistake on our part.

Of all the "Arab" countries, ...Saudi Arabia was the most backward. I guess they figured by not developing they could keep their citizens ignorant and easily controlled by myth & tradition... but that's mere speculation on my part. There have been those within the Royal house of Saud who wanted to use SA oil wealth to further develop SA, ...but "internal power struggles" prevented this from ever occurring. Artifically making SA the "guardians of Arab culture" was definitely another mistake that caused a great deal of rift and unrest within the Arab community, which was only overlooked due to the intense hatred the region had for Israel. Once Israel ceases to be a threat to the region, SA might not be looking too good to it's neighbours.

The United Arab Emirates on the other hand is for want of a better word "a mecca of western sensibilities" without the traditional middle eastern hostilities for the western world.

Dubai will definitely be on my list of vacation spots to take in.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 09:27:33 AM »
dubai is beautiful... it's definitely to become the center of the world in our lifetimes.  no wonder haliburton is moving there this year.

of course, if we nuke the shit out of iran, Dubai might not be such a nice place to be, no?
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 09:29:56 AM »
The easiest way to see what works in the arab world is to see who owns or owned the oil rights. Brit companies, because of Englands long colonial history, insisted that countries they did business with, put some oil profits back into their country. We did not..never saw the need. The House of Saud were all old bandits and murderers, who were able to consolidate power. We had to do business with somebody. SA is a mess.

They don't want a war nor do they want a Nuclear Iran....nobody there wants a nuclear Iran. We're sorta stuck.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 09:30:48 AM »
This could have been Saudi Arabia had the arabs not been so greedy. The leaders of the UAE pump money back into their country as opposed to the Sauds...a mistake on our part.

HH6, by "a mistake on our part", ...are you refering to a scenario similar to the plotline of Syriana?
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 09:34:53 AM »
dubai is beautiful... it's definitely to become the center of the world in our lifetimes.  no wonder haliburton is moving there this year.

of course, if we nuke the shit out of iran, Dubai might not be such a nice place to be, no?

 :o  I guess I'd better get there quickly huh? {lol}.

Iran won't be nuked. It won't happen. The US has already shot itself in the foot, it won't take out it's other one
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 09:37:09 AM »
Hahahaha......they're going to be so fucked in a couple decades when the sea level's up.  

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 09:43:19 AM »
Hahahaha......they're going to be so fucked in a couple decades when the sea level's up.  

lol...

perhaps dubai's planned development is proof positive that the republicans are right - global warming is NOT real.

You have to think that the people sinking *trillions* into Dubai have access to the best info in the world.  They'd be choosing a building spot 30 or 40 feet ABOVE sea level if this were the case, no?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 09:45:32 AM »
Hahahaha......they're going to be so fucked in a couple decades when the sea level's up.  

{lol} Is this confirmation that you believe in global warming?
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 09:51:12 AM »
{lol} Is this confirmation that you believe in global warming?

I don't "believe" in it, you daffy C-unit.  Climate change is well-supported by research, and that's good enough for me.

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 09:54:43 AM »
I don't "believe" in it, you daffy C-unit.  Climate change is well-supported by research, and that's good enough for me.

global warming is odd...

Republicans call it BS.
Many conspiracy nuts - including Alex Jones - call it BS.

And the people will all the money are building the capital of the world right at sea level.

I think there isn't a such thing.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 09:57:20 AM »
global warming is odd...

Republicans call it BS.
Many conspiracy nuts - including Alex Jones - call it BS.

And the people will all the money are building the capital of the world right at sea level.

I think there isn't a such thing.

there's a lot of good science that indicates otherwise....... climate change is not a political thing

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 10:04:50 AM »
there's a lot of good science that indicates otherwise....... climate change is not a political thing

it sorta is political.

republicans tend to deny it because they're influenced more (as are their voters) by stock in big busiensses.  dems are broke, dont own stock, and want to punish these companies.

theres a lot of good and bad info out there.  i'm guessing the ppl with trillions to build dubai also have the $ to buy the good info.   since half our nation (repubs) and the CT group (crazy but who often have good info on things the rest of us don't see on NBC) agree on this, well, i'm with them.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 10:46:00 AM »
They've set themselves up for life after oil. Good for them.

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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2008, 11:03:29 AM »
Many know The Palm as an international icon, but few realise it was created to help solve Dubai's beach shortage. His Highness Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum (UAE Vice President and Prime Minister and the Ruler of Dubai), drew a sketch of a palm tree, realising its fronds would provide more beach frontage than a traditional circular island. From this insight, the idea of The Palm was born and the trilogy of islands envisioned. It has extended Dubai's coastline by over 800 kilometres, which is about twelve times the length of its current coastline.

The interesting thing with the Dubai waterfront project is that is has become a worldwide model for sustainable & functional coastal communities. They're coining a new term for it "Blue Communities" where the ecology is a main factor in how they construct.

This jewel in the middle east can positively impact this planet more than most people realize.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2008, 12:26:32 PM »
U would think the other nutbags would look at dubai and put the ak's down.....yes we sorta screwed up in SA. We're backing a sinking ship. They buy tons of weapons from us and the rest of NATO...and they leave them to rust. There are fleets of US Bradley's and French and Brit choppers sitting parked and rusting slowly. They don't have the men to man the ships they buy..or crew the vehicles. Their army is tiny and spaced out on the borders...their "National Guard"...is huge and is there to provide security for the oil and Royal family. They are scared shit of both Iran and their population....its a sinking ship and the next president needs to cut sling on these guys.....We need to find and fund a secular dem movement and let them have at it. I think if we can settle the Palestinian question first...we go to SA next.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2008, 05:37:12 PM »
U would think the other nutbags would look at dubai and put the ak's down.....yes we sorta screwed up in SA. We're backing a sinking ship. They buy tons of weapons from us and the rest of NATO...and they leave them to rust. There are fleets of US Bradley's and French and Brit choppers sitting parked and rusting slowly. They don't have the men to man the ships they buy..or crew the vehicles. Their army is tiny and spaced out on the borders...their "National Guard"...is huge and is there to provide security for the oil and Royal family. They are scared shit of both Iran and their population....its a sinking ship and the next president needs to cut sling on these guys.....We need to find and fund a secular dem movement and let them have at it. I think if we can settle the Palestinian question first...we go to SA next.


I say we drop an A bomb on em and call it a nite. >:(

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2008, 06:03:48 PM »
I can't wait to vacation there.  Looks absolutely amazing.

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2008, 06:07:06 PM »
 His Highness, General Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the UAE Armed Forces, announced the most ambitious sustainability program ever launched by a government - an initial investment of $15bn in projects targeting solar, wind and hydrogen power; carbon reduction and management; sustainable development; education; manufacturing; and research and development.


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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2008, 06:08:55 PM »
Maybe Expat Trap will be heading that way some time... ;D
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2008, 06:11:25 PM »
They're going to have to fix shit like this first.

November 1, 2007
In Rape Case, a French Youth Takes On Dubai

By THANASSIS CAMBANIS
Correction Appended

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Oct. 31 — Alexandre Robert, a French 15-year-old, was having a fine summer in this tourist paradise on the Persian Gulf. It was Bastille Day and he and a classmate had escaped the July heat at the beach for an air-conditioned arcade.

Just after sunset, Alex says he was rushing to meet his father for dinner when he bumped into an acquaintance, a 17-year-old, who said he and his cousin could drop Alex off at home.

There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts ages 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cellphone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them.

Then they stripped off his pants and one by one sodomized him in the back seat of the car. They dumped Alex across from one of Dubai’s luxury hotel towers.

Alex and his family were about to learn that despite Dubai’s status as the Arab world’s paragon of modernity and wealth, and its well-earned reputation for protecting foreign investors, its criminal legal system remains a perilous gantlet when it comes to homosexuality and protection of foreigners.

The authorities not only discouraged Alex from pressing charges, he, his family and French diplomats say; they raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity, and neglected for weeks to inform him or his parents that one of his attackers had tested H.I.V. positive while in prison four years earlier.

“They tried to smother this story,” Alex said by phone from Switzerland, where he fled a month into his 10th-grade school year, fearing a jail term in Dubai if charged with homosexual activity. “Dubai, they say we build the highest towers, they have the best hotels. But all the news, they hide it. They don’t want the world to know that Dubai still lives in the Middle Ages.”

Alex and his parents say they chose to go public with his case in the hope that it would press the authorities to prosecute the men.

United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.” The two adult men charged with sexually assaulting Alex have pleaded not guilty, although sperm from all three were found in Alex. The two adults appeared in court on Wednesday and were appointed a lawyer. They face trial before a three-judge panel on Nov. 7. The third, a minor, will be tried in juvenile court. Legal experts here say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years.

Dubai is a bustling financial and tourist center, one of seven states that form the United Arab Emirates. At least 90 percent of the residents of Dubai are not Emirati citizens and many say that Alex’s Kafkaesque legal journey brings into sharp relief questions about unequal treatment of foreigners here that have long been quietly raised among the expatriate majority. The case is getting coverage in the local press.

It also highlights the taboos surrounding H.I.V. and homosexuality that Dubai residents say have allowed rampant harassment of gays and have encouraged the health system to treat H.I.V. virtually in secret. (Under Emirates law, foreigners with H.I.V., or those convicted of homosexual activity, are deported.)

Prosecutors here reject such accusations. “The legal and judicial system in the United Arab Emirates makes no distinction between nationals and non-nationals,” said Khalifa Rashid Bin Demas, head of the Dubai attorney general’s technical office, in an interview. “All residents are treated equally.”

Dubai’s economic miracle — decades of double-digit growth spurred by investors, foreign companies, and workers drawn to the tax-free Emirates — depends on millions of foreigners, working jobs from construction to senior positions in finance. Even many of the criminal court lawyers are foreigners.

Alex’s case has raised diplomatic tensions between the Emirates and France, which has lodged official complaints about the apparent cover-up of one assailant’s H.I.V. status and other irregularities. The tension and growing publicity over the case seem to have prompted the authorities to take action.

Mr. Demas, from the Dubai attorney general’s office, said he had no intention of prosecuting Alex and was seeking the death penalty for the two adult attackers. “This crime is an outrage against society,” he said.

However, the investigation file in Alex’s case and a pair of confidential French diplomatic cables obtained by The New York Times confirm the accounts of inexplicable and at times hostile official behavior described by Alex and his parents.

“The grave deficiencies or incoherence of the investigation appear to result, in part, from gross incompetence of the services involved in the United Arab Emirates, but also from the moral, pseudoscientific and political prejudices which undoubtedly influenced the inquiry,” the French ambassador to the United Arab Emirates wrote in a confidential cable dated Sept. 6.

Most infuriating to Alex and his mother, Véronique Robert, is that police inaccurately informed French diplomats on Aug. 15, a month after the assault, that the three attackers were disease-free, the diplomats say. Only at the end of August did the family learn that that the 36-year-old assailant was H.I.V. positive. The case file contains a positive H.I.V. test for the convict dated March 26, 2003.

“They lied to us,” Ms. Robert said. “Now the Damocles sword of AIDS hangs over Alex.”

So far the teenager has not tested positive for H.I.V., but he will not know for sure until January, when he gets another blood test six months after the exposure.

A doctor examined Alex the night of the rape, taking swabs of DNA for traces of the rapists’ sperm. He did not take blood tests or examine Alex with a speculum. Then he cleared the room and told Alex: “I know you’re a homosexual. You can admit it to me. I can tell.”

Alex told his father in tears: “I’ve just been raped by three men, and he’s saying I’m a homosexual,” according to interviews with both of them.

The doctor, an Egyptian, wrote in his legal report that he had found no evidence of forced penetration, which Alex’s family says is a false assessment that could hurt the case against the assailants.

In early September, after the family learned about the older attacker’s H.I.V. status and the French government lodged complaints with the United Arab Emirates authorities, the Dubai attorney general’s office assigned a new prosecutor to the case. Only then were forensic tests performed to confirm that sperm from all three attackers had been found in Alex.

Alex stayed in Dubai in order to testify against his attackers, and went back to school in September, despite suffering unsettling flashbacks.

In early October, however, the family said, their lawyer warned Alex that he was in danger of facing charges of homosexuality and a prison term of one year.

Veteran lawyers here say the justice system is evolving, like the country’s entire system of governance that has blossomed as the economy and population have exploded in just a few decades. Despite its shortfalls, the United Arab Emirates have combined Islamic values with the best practices from the West to create “the most modern legal system among the Arab countries,” said Salim Al Shaali, a former police officer and prosecutor who now practices criminal law.

In business and finance, the nation has worked hard to earn a reputation for impartial and speedy justice. But the criminal justice system has struggled, balancing a penal code rooted in conservative Arab and Islamic local culture, applied to an overwhelming non-Arab population of foreign residents.

A 42-year-old gay businessman who would speak only if identified by his nickname, Ko, described routine sexual harassment by officials during his 13 years living in Dubai. He cut his shoulder-length hair to avoid attention, he said, but after years of living in fear of jail or deportation, he is leaving the country.

Although rape victims here generally keep quiet, some who have been raped in Dubai have shared testimonials in recent days on boycottdubai.com, a Web site started by Alex’s mother.

Prosecutors moved forward with the case against her son’s attackers only as a result of public pressure and diplomatic complaints, Ms. Robert believes. Now, she hopes, the attention could prompt more humane and even-handed justice for future rape victims here.

On advice of his lawyer and French diplomats, Alex says he will not return to Dubai but wants very much for the men to be convicted.

“Sometimes you feel crazy, you know?” he said. “It’s hard, but we have to be strong. I’m doing this for all the other poor kids who got raped and couldn’t do anything about it.”

Correction: November 10, 2007


A front-page article on Nov. 2 about the accusation that a French boy was raped in Dubai referred incorrectly, using information from a police report, to the American School in Dubai and a 17-year-old suspect in the case. The suspect is not a student at the American School, and the school says it has no Emiratis enrolled.


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Re: Your Petro Dollars At Work
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2008, 06:35:35 PM »
Holy Hell.     Its a fag playground.  I say we NUKE em.  >:(

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2008, 11:20:59 PM »
I can't wait to vacation there.  Looks absolutely amazing.

Ya, I've been looking at property there. While the official language is Arabic, English appears to be the 2nd language. I've been going over many of the laws. The only thing that really gets me is the one about unrelated men & women being alone together.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 11:24:01 PM »
Ya, I've been looking at property there. While the official language is Arabic, English appears to be the 2nd language. I've been going over many of the laws. The only thing that really gets me is the one about unrelated men & women being alone together.

It makes sense for you, since from what I've heard and seen, you don't have to ever worry about being raped.........unlike the poor French kid.