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Re: There's simply NO TRUTH TO OBAMA BEING A MUSLIM SO DON'T BRING IT HERE.
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2008, 02:19:04 PM »
From everything I can find, the guy has been a christian most of his life.  He was raised to be a christian by his mother.

I don't think that's true. I read his autobio a while ago and it seemed like they were irreligious in Hawaii.  Then she took him to Indonesia with her.......can't remember religion there either.  Think he started becoming spiritually aware when he moved to Chicago, which was relatively late in the game.


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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2008, 02:21:35 PM »
I don't care about his conversion....good for him. Some question if its genuine..whatever. His choice of Churces is another issue.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2008, 02:21:39 PM »
Dude..the jihadists would love to have this idiot in office. I can't stand him. I don't like the message it sends . He's there because of some bullshit guilt. His record is no different then Hils...nobody attacks his record..nobody questions his ties with some questionable muslim groups and black christian groups. Its Feb 13 and today might be the first we've heard of any hard economic plan from this guy. I wan't commenting on his name sounding like Osama...I didn't accure to me until u mentioned it.....my point is that he has ties to some questionable muslim groups. I posted some info before.
The Jihadists would love to have Obama in office. ::) oh brother...  In actuallity, they would more love to have someone who'll keep them as number 1 issue in the world.  They're so much more today than they've ever been before, thanks to Bush.  and when you talk about his name in relation to 9/11 and the fact that there has been a huge association campaign in the media and net to associate his name to Osama, I find it hard to believe that's not what you were talking about.  But still, that you would rule one out by name is disgusting.  Somewhere some poor guy is being held back by people like you because his name is jeffery dahmer.

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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2008, 02:25:20 PM »
I'm ruling him out because he may have ties to groups that are extremeist in nature....those groups support him. I don't want extremist groups who 'support' my commander in chief. I hate this guy..he's a politician pure and simple...with plenty of skeletons that nobody will question..because he's black and he has a muslim name....I don't have any white guilt so I'm posting whats out there.
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Re: There's simply NO TRUTH TO OBAMA BEING A MUSLIM SO DON'T BRING IT HERE.
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2008, 02:28:07 PM »
I don't think that's true. I read his autobio a while ago and it seemed like they were irreligious in Hawaii.  Then she took him to Indonesia with her.......can't remember religion there either.  Think he started becoming spiritually aware when he moved to Chicago, which was relatively late in the game.


well the main point, he was never a radical muslim is true.  He never went to one of those schools they claim.  and this is what he said:

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My father was from Kenya, and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam. … For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that's a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn't practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues.

Just because he didn't go to church does not mean he was not Christian.  All through the Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, western states, you'll find many Christians who are very private in their worship and do not associate with a church and making a special point to violently chase away door to door missionaries.  If the guy said he was a Christian, you just have to take his word for it.  Church is not a requirement at all.

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Re: There's simply NO TRUTH TO OBAMA BEING A MUSLIM SO DON'T BRING IT HERE.
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2008, 02:29:15 PM »
I'm ruling him out because he may have ties to groups that are extremeist in nature....those groups support him. I don't want extremist groups who 'support' my commander in chief. I hate this guy..he's a politician pure and simple...with plenty of skeletons that nobody will question..because he's black and he has a muslim name....I don't have any white guilt so I'm posting whats out there.
What extremist groups are providing aid/support to the Obama campaign ::)

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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2008, 02:29:31 PM »
I'm ruling him out because he may have ties to groups that are extremeist in nature....those groups support him. I don't want extremist groups who 'support' my commander in chief. I hate this guy..he's a politician pure and simple...with plenty of skeletons that nobody will question..because he's black and he has a muslim name....I don't have any white guilt so I'm posting whats out there.

I suppose your sources are the same ones that provided you with the material you used to start the "Barack Obama is the Messiah" thread.

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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2008, 02:29:46 PM »
On May 10th, Obama botched his facts in a speech criticizing the U.S. auto industry for "investing in bigger and faster cars while foreign competitors invested in more fuel-efficient technology."

Obama stated that "while our fuel standards haven't moved from 27.5 miles per gallon in two decades, both China and Japan have surpassed us, with Japanese cars now getting an average of 45 miles to the gallon."  But Toyota, which should know, has responded, "No carmaker gets 45 mpg; ours is closer to 30 mpg."Related -- Obama spent the better part of his remarks criticizing US automakers for not building more hybrid vehicles like Toyota and Honda.

Well, we're glad to see Obama's shifting the blame from the consumer to the automakers.  That must explain why the Illinois Senator and Presidential candidate owns a HEMI-powered V8 Chrysler 300C.  Obviously it's Chrysler's fault Obama bought a big 5.7-liter engine from them -- he just didn't have a choice.



My point..not rock star messiah of change..more BS washington poltician. Same hypocritical bullshit. U guys are getting bent out of shape over my saying I don't want yada yada..comment on his record..do u want me to take it back so we can focus on his record..fine I take it back..now about his record....
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2008, 02:30:19 PM »
No that was from a pro Obama website...pretty simple.
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2008, 02:33:44 PM »
On May 10th, Obama botched his facts in a speech criticizing the U.S. auto industry for "investing in bigger and faster cars while foreign competitors invested in more fuel-efficient technology."

Obama stated that "while our fuel standards haven't moved from 27.5 miles per gallon in two decades, both China and Japan have surpassed us, with Japanese cars now getting an average of 45 miles to the gallon."  But Toyota, which should know, has responded, "No carmaker gets 45 mpg; ours is closer to 30 mpg."Related -- Obama spent the better part of his remarks criticizing US automakers for not building more hybrid vehicles like Toyota and Honda.

Well, we're glad to see Obama's shifting the blame from the consumer to the automakers.  That must explain why the Illinois Senator and Presidential candidate owns a HEMI-powered V8 Chrysler 300C.  Obviously it's Chrysler's fault Obama bought a big 5.7-liter engine from them -- he just didn't have a choice.



My point..not rock star messiah of change..more BS washington poltician. Same hypocritical bullshit. U guys are getting bent out of shape over my saying I don't want yada yada..comment on his record..do u want me to take it back so we can focus on his record..fine I take it back..now about his record....

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel now. 

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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2008, 02:35:34 PM »
On May 10th, Obama botched his facts in a speech criticizing the U.S. auto industry for "investing in bigger and faster cars while foreign competitors invested in more fuel-efficient technology."

Obama stated that "while our fuel standards haven't moved from 27.5 miles per gallon in two decades, both China and Japan have surpassed us, with Japanese cars now getting an average of 45 miles to the gallon."  But Toyota, which should know, has responded, "No carmaker gets 45 mpg; ours is closer to 30 mpg."Related -- Obama spent the better part of his remarks criticizing US automakers for not building more hybrid vehicles like Toyota and Honda.

Well, we're glad to see Obama's shifting the blame from the consumer to the automakers.  That must explain why the Illinois Senator and Presidential candidate owns a HEMI-powered V8 Chrysler 300C.  Obviously it's Chrysler's fault Obama bought a big 5.7-liter engine from them -- he just didn't have a choice.



My point..not rock star messiah of change..more BS washington poltician. Same hypocritical bullshit. U guys are getting bent out of shape over my saying I don't want yada yada..comment on his record..do u want me to take it back so we can focus on his record..fine I take it back..now about his record....
I guess we're changing the topic completely :)

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Re: There's simply NO TRUTH TO OBAMA BEING A MUSLIM SO DON'T BRING IT HERE.
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 02:36:06 PM »
You're scraping the bottom of the barrel now. 
for once we agree on something :D

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Re: There's simply NO TRUTH TO OBAMA BEING A MUSLIM SO DON'T BRING IT HERE.
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2008, 02:37:45 PM »
What extremist groups are providing aid/support to the Obama campaign ::)

The Muslim American Society (MAS) is an organization with strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

On its website's "Personality Page," the MAS displays a photo and short bio of Barack Hussein Obama along with other prominent Muslims, such as Malcolm X, Saladin and Moqtada al-Sadr.

A 2004 Chicago Tribune investigation revealed that, after a contentious debate, U.S. leaders of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood decided in 1993 to begin calling themselves the Muslim American Society.  The Muslim Brotherhood is an international Islamist group that largely operates underground.  The Brotherhood's goal is to spread the rule of Islamic law throughout the world.  Key Muslim Brotherhood ideologues, including founder Hassan al-Banna, have endorsed violence as a means of doing so.
Today, MAS' leaders admit that the group was founded by the Muslim Brotherhood, but claim that MAS has evolved since then MAS' magazine, The American Muslim provides a snapshot of where MAS really stands on terrorism.  The March 2002 issue includes a fatwa endorsing suicide bombings against Israelis, which states that "martyr operations are not suicide and should not be deemed as unjustifiable means of endangering one's life."  The fatwa goes on to say that in suicide bombings, "the Muslim sacrifices his own life for the sake of performing a religious duty, which is jihad against the enemy."
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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2008, 02:40:46 PM »
I have plenty...but its on alot of sites....He is supported by groups that are very shady. Its all part of his record....all kinds of stuff will be dug up on mccain...S@L scandal etc..but I'm pretty sure no groups who support terror groups will also be supporting Mccain.
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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2008, 02:42:39 PM »
The Muslim American Society (MAS) is an organization with strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

On its website's "Personality Page," the MAS displays a photo and short bio of Barack Hussein Obama along with other prominent Muslims, such as Malcolm X, Saladin and Moqtada al-Sadr.

A 2004 Chicago Tribune investigation revealed that, after a contentious debate, U.S. leaders of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood decided in 1993 to begin calling themselves the Muslim American Society.  The Muslim Brotherhood is an international Islamist group that largely operates underground.  The Brotherhood's goal is to spread the rule of Islamic law throughout the world.  Key Muslim Brotherhood ideologues, including founder Hassan al-Banna, have endorsed violence as a means of doing so.
Today, MAS' leaders admit that the group was founded by the Muslim Brotherhood, but claim that MAS has evolved since then MAS' magazine, The American Muslim provides a snapshot of where MAS really stands on terrorism.  The March 2002 issue includes a fatwa endorsing suicide bombings against Israelis, which states that "martyr operations are not suicide and should not be deemed as unjustifiable means of endangering one's life."  The fatwa goes on to say that in suicide bombings, "the Muslim sacrifices his own life for the sake of performing a religious duty, which is jihad against the enemy."
If there were the sightest tie to anything radical, we both know it would have been all over for them.  This is in line with the big deal that was made when the stormfront dude gave to Ron Paul.

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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2008, 02:46:41 PM »
He has no direct ties nor do I believe he supposrts their more radical positions..however I'm not happy that there is any link at all.

More on MAS.....opinion piece in the Dallas Morning news....follow the links its mentions.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-mas_11edi.ART.State.Edition1.3d859b9.html
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2008, 02:47:16 PM »
Here it is.  http://www.masnet.org/prof_personality.asp?id=1508  They also have a page about Michael Moore and you may not like him but he's not a radical muslim with terrorist connections and neither is Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2008, 02:49:10 PM »
Obama also has the endorsement of the New Black Panther Party.

"Barack Obama represents 'Positive Change' for all of America. Obama will stir the 'Melting Pot' into a better "Molten America.'"

Read The New Black Panther Party 10 Point Platform http://www.newblackpanther.com/10pointplatform.html

I would less then thrilled if the KKk endorsed a guy I wanted for president.
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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2008, 02:49:19 PM »
He has no direct ties nor do I believe he supposrts their more radical positions..however I'm not happy that there is any link at all.

More on MAS.....opinion piece in the Dallas Morning news....follow the links its mentions.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-mas_11edi.ART.State.Edition1.3d859b9.html
Oh come on!!! not happy with a link???  anybody can hook up a link and support someone.  This is America bubba.  Who cares. 

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« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2008, 02:51:26 PM »
Obama also has the endorsement of the New Black Panther Party.

"Barack Obama represents 'Positive Change' for all of America. Obama will stir the 'Melting Pot' into a better "Molten America.'"

Read The New Black Panther Party 10 Point Platform http://www.newblackpanther.com/10pointplatform.html

I would less then thrilled if the KKk endorsed a guy I wanted for president.
Black Panther Party is entitled to support whoever the hell they want.  That they support Obama doesn't say anything other than they don't support Hillary or McCain.  Big deal.

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« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2008, 02:54:11 PM »
HH6 is grasping at straws. 

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« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2008, 02:56:08 PM »
HH6, you must admit, we're devating bigtime here.  The facts that claim Obama has a radical muslim background are false, you must admit that it is indeed a swiftboat attempt that is unfair and not based in reality.

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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2008, 03:01:06 PM »
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071218/30541_Concerns_Raised_Over_Alleged_Vow_to_Enforce_Islamic_Law_in_Kenya.htm

Raila Odinga is a Kenyan opposition leader who is reportedly Barack Obama's first cousin. He is a member of the Luo tribe, which has burned Christian churches and is responsible for ethnic cleansing and civil unrest now taking place in Kenya. Odinga lost a recent Kenyan presidential election, leading to the current unrest and violence
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