70's build. What was so complicated?

[Disgusted]

So looking at the pic of Arnold I'd say he's about 235 here at what, 6'2"? Other than genetics, what was responsible for all that mass? Was it drugs? There we'rent many to chose from. Was it diet? Heard these guys were big on meat and eggs. Did they eat every 2 hours? Did they weigh their food? Did they count protein, fats and carbs?  Was it training? Many of them did a lot of sets and reps. Was it supplements? What did they even have? Liver tabs? Maybe some Joe Weiders high protein peanut butter. 

[gordiano]

So looking at the pic of Arnold I'd say he's about 235 here at what, 6'2"? Other than genetics, what was responsible for all that mass? Was it drugs? There we'rent many to chose from. Was it diet? Heard these guys were big on meat and eggs. Did they eat every 2 hours? Did they weigh their food? Did they count protein, fats and carbs?  Was it training? Many of them did a lot of sets and reps. Was it supplements? What did they even have? Liver tabs? Maybe some Joe Weiders high protein peanut butter. 

You tell us, Dis.....


But yeah, those guys looked fucking awesome then.

[Lifter4Life]

GENETICS 1ST, DRUGS 2ND, DIET 3RD.

[KillerMonk]

Moderate use of drugs, Only him and his Doctor know.

And the best genetics for a White man ever.Imagine him on a modern Drug regiem he be cut 300 pounds.

Genetics,Genetics,Genetics as simple as that.

[Disgusted]

You tell us, Dis.....


But yeah, those guys looked fucking awesome then.

I'll give you my opinion, just hoping to hear more from other guys first. 

[timfogarty]

Was it drugs? There we'rent many to chose from.

Dianabol, test esters.  what else do you need?

Was it diet?

protein.  what else do you need?

Was it supplements?

none that worked (just like today)

[Slintowin4424]

I think its a combination of things Arnold trained very hard no doubt

[Disgusted]

Dianabol, test esters.  what else do you need?

protein.  what else do you need?

none that worked (just like today)

 I could add to this, but certainly can't disagree.  

[LASTREP72]

So looking at the pic of Arnold I'd say he's about 235 here at what, 6'2"? Other than genetics, what was responsible for all that mass? Was it drugs? There we'rent many to chose from. Was it diet? Heard these guys were big on meat and eggs. Did they eat every 2 hours? Did they weigh their food? Did they count protein, fats and carbs?  Was it training? Many of them did a lot of sets and reps. Was it supplements? What did they even have? Liver tabs? Maybe some Joe Weiders high protein peanut butter. 

D Ball, Test, Winny,PCT nada (u just chanced getting tits and crashing was a given) GENETICS, and those fuckers weren't no where near the size of bbers after the Dorian reformation. I'm sure spiderman will chime as he is stuck in that era.

[inzane]

So looking at the pic of Arnold I'd say he's about 235 here at what, 6'2"? Other than genetics, what was responsible for all that mass? Was it drugs? There we'rent many to chose from. Was it diet? Heard these guys were big on meat and eggs. Did they eat every 2 hours? Did they weigh their food? Did they count protein, fats and carbs?  Was it training? Many of them did a lot of sets and reps. Was it supplements? What did they even have? Liver tabs? Maybe some Joe Weiders high protein peanut butter. 

I read an article about pete gymnowsky in musclemag that he claimed to train from 11-12 in the night till 5-6 in the morning...and he also claimed to take a whole lot of drugs avilable at the time like anavar,etc

[mitchyboy]

Have heard (and you know how reliable that can be) that Ahnold poped dbols like tic tacs, and remember, Franco had real bad gyno for awhile, so the drug thing was probly more severe than anyone knows.

[KillerMonk]

Have heard (and you know how reliable that can be) that Ahnold poped dbols like tic tacs, and remember, Franco had real bad gyno for awhile, so the drug thing was probly more severe than anyone knows.

Interesting observation.Drug Abuse in the 70s more imformation needed.

[BIG ACH]

Man, Arnold paved the way. 

I think it had to do with keeping it basic, the basic training, the basic eating, the basic drugs.

[hazbin]

whatever Arnold and franco took, millions of lifters took tons more and never looked good.

Arnold trained all out, 2hrs. twice a day. i doubt any of us on here could have kept up with him for a single week.

his drive was the key to his bodybuilding success, his movie success, his financial success and now his political success.

[calmus]

He trained with a reptilian overlord.  And now he gets us ready for 2012.

[JohnnyVegas]

Have heard (and you know how reliable that can be) that Ahnold poped dbols like tic tacs, and remember, Franco had real bad gyno for awhile, so the drug thing was probly more severe than anyone knows.

Arnold was taking Dbol by the handfuls, since he was 16, year round, according to Rick Wayne who said he saw it first hand and Arnold confirmed it to him.

whatever Arnold and franco took, millions of lifters took tons more and never looked good.

Arnold trained all out, 2hrs. twice a day. i doubt any of us on here could have kept up with him for a single week.

Very few, if any,  BBers took as much Dbol as Arnold.

Arnold NEVER train 2 hours twice a day. He trained once a day for 1.5 to 2 hours off season.

Contest prep he trained 1.5 hours in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon/evening.

[calmus]

Contest prep he trained 1.5 hours in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon/evening.

Word is you could set a clock by how punctual he was. 1:30:00 into a workout, he'd drop whatever he was doing and sprint out of the gym for 1.28 hours of tanning.

[pumpster]

Arnold trained all out, 2hrs. twice a day. i doubt any of us on here could have kept up with him for a single week.

Hard to know for sure, alot of it seems to be revisionist history propogated by groupies like this guy. Check the Pumping Iron footage and finally take notice that it's guys like Corney and Ferrigno that were training hard and providing most of the inspiring footage, not Schwarzenegger.

[pumpster]

Arnold was taking Dbol by the handfuls, since he was 16, year round, according to Rick Wayne who said he saw it first hand and Arnold confirmed it to him.

Very few, if any,  BBers took as much Dbol as Arnold.

Arnold NEVER train 2 hours twice a day. He trained once a day for 1.5 to 2 hours off season.

Contest prep he trained 1.5 hours in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon/evening.

All of this is correct IMO. All the rest is revisionism; the twice a day workouts were pre-contest.

[pumpster]

Word is you could set a clock by how punctual he was. 1:30:00 into a workout, he'd drop whatever he was doing and sprint out of the gym for 1.28 hours of tanning.

lol ya he had a tough life living there on the beach no doubt about it.

[Disgusted]

Ok I don't claim to know exactly what these guys did, but I have talked to some guys, one who knew Arnold and another that knew Sergio. From what I was told these guys did a lot of orals. Test wasn't used all that much or at all back in the 70's It was considered a dirty drug. Remember that steroids were still kinda knew and were looked upon as something that took that place of test without all the bad side effects.

Dbol, anavar, drol and some deca and Primo. Winny to a degree also. I think that doses were fairly high. I know Sergio liked dbol, deca and winny, no test. For his comeback in 1984 he added test and tren and he had a different look, one that I personally did not like. I don't think that Franco had gyno untill his comeback in 1981.

Diet was simple, they ate roughly 4 times daily and like Tim said protein was first priority then carbs and fat. It was simple eating of good food.

They spent hours in the gym and why not? it was their job basically. I personally don't believe in over training. Things today are made way too complicated and they certainly don't need to be. Personally this is fine by me. I know that it is nearly impossible to convince these guys today otherwise. Yes genetics play a part, but today you have many guys with bad genetics who turn pro simply because they force their body to gow thru extreme drug use.

[Van_Bilderass]

He drank a lot of whiskey and smoked a lot of weed and ate whatever the hell he wanted. Bodybuilders are just too health conscious these days. They crippled by analysis paralysis. Relax and live a little and you'll grow better. 

[TrueGrit]

Been said by TF. They took plenty of drugs back then, plenty. They ate huge amounts of protein: lots of steak and 12 egg omelettes. They didn't mess around with crap like super plasma, pulltate expanders and power surge matrix digestion ergonomic powder.

 The physiques changed when GH arrived on the scene. GH and insulin have destroyed the physiques totally.

[Van_Bilderass]

Arnold was taking Dbol by the handfuls, since he was 16, year round, according to Rick Wayne who said he saw it first hand and Arnold confirmed it to him.

Rick Wayne said Arnold told him he started taking steroids at 13, I think it was. Guys today wait too long to jump on the sauce. 

[Disgusted]

Rick Wayne said Arnold told him he started taking steroids at 13, I think it was. Guys today wait too long to jump on the sauce. 

Wrong bro. Any kid who goes to McDonalds is getting plenty of trenbolone. Fact, sad, but fact.