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Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« on: February 14, 2008, 02:31:31 PM »
US: Broken satellite will be shot down

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer 
1 hour, 48 minutes ago 

 WASHINGTON - President Bush has ordered the Pentagon to use a Navy missile to attempt to destroy a broken U.S. spy satellite � and thereby minimize the risk to humans from its toxic fuel � by intercepting it just before it re-enters the atmosphere, officials said Thursday.
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The effort � the first of its kind � will be undertaken because of the potential that people in the area where the satellite would otherwise crash could be harmed, the officials said.

Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffrey, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, did not say when the attempted intercept would be conducted, but the satellite is expected to hit Earth during the first week of March.

"This is all about trying to reduce the danger to human beings," Jeffrey said.

Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at the same briefing that the "window of opportunity" for such a shootdown, presumably to be launched from a Navy ship, will open in the next three or four days and last for seven or eight days. He did not say whether the Pentagon has decided on an exact launch date.

Cartwright said this will be an unprecedented effort; he would not say exactly what are the odds of success.

"This is the first time we've used a tactical missile to engage a spacecraft," Cartwright said.

After extensive study and analysis, U.S. officials came to the conclusion that, "we're better off taking the attempt than not," Cartwright said.

He said a Navy missile known as Standard Missile 3 would be fired in an attempt to intercept the satellite just prior to it re-entering Earth's atmosphere. It would be "next to impossible" to hit the satellite after that because of atmospheric disturbances, Cartwright said.

A second goal, he said, is to directly hit the fuel tank in order to minimize the amount of fuel that returns to Earth.

Software associated with the Standard Missile 3 has been modified to enhance the chances of the missile's sensors recognizing that the satellite is its target; he noted that the missile's designed mission is to shoot down ballistic missiles, not satellites. Other officials said the missile's maximum range, while a classified figure, is not great enough to hit a satellite operating in normal orbits.

"It's a one-time deal," Cartwright said when asked whether the modified Standard Missile 3 should be considered a new U.S. anti-satellite weapon technology.

Cartwright also said that if an initial shootdown attempt fails, a decision will be made whether to take a second shot.

Jeffrey said members of Congress were briefed on the plan earlier Thursday and that diplomatic notifications to other countries would be made before the end of the day.

Shooting down a satellite is particularly sensitive because of the controversy surrounding China's anti-satellite test last year, when Beijing shot down one of its defunct weather satellites, drawing immediate criticism from the U.S. and other countries.

A key concern at that time was the debris created by Chinese satellite's destruction � and that will also be a focus now, as the U.S. determines exactly when and under what circumstances to shoot down its errant satellite.

The military will have to choose a time and a location that will avoid to the greatest degree any damage to other satellites in the sky. Also, there is the possibility that large pieces could remain, and either stay in orbit where they can collide with other satellites or possibly fall to Earth.

It is not known where the satellite will hit. But officials familiar with the situation say about half of the 5,000-pound spacecraft is expected to survive its blazing descent through the atmosphere and will scatter debris � some of it potentially hazardous � over several hundred miles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The satellite is outfitted with thrusters � small engines used to position it in space. They contain the toxic rocket fuel hydrazine, which can cause harm to anyone who contacts it. Officials have said there is about 1,000 pounds of propellent on the satellite.

Known by its military designation US 193, the satellite was launched in December 2006. It lost power and its central computer failed almost immediately afterward, leaving it uncontrollable. It carried a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor.

(This version CORRECTS Recasts lead; corrects spelling of Jeffrey in grafs 2,3 and 13. SUBs 11th graf to clarify that the Standard Missile 3 is designed for use against ballistic missiles and that its range is insufficient to hit satellites operating in normal orbits.)
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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 03:22:16 PM »
You know, if I was a sattelite designer/engineer I would have a built in system to retrieve this million dollar thing.

Even a self- destruct button in a top secret room would make sense.  They have to come down sometime.

I can see an "Accident" happening and something being dropped in Iran....by Accident.. ;D

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 03:26:05 PM »
How big is this thing?  It has 1,000 pounds of propellent!  This thing is huge!!!  My inner conspiracy theorist is crying out here... Remember the movie Space Cowboys!  Yea, what if there is a lot more to this behemoth!!!!  Like nuclear missiles on board. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 04:58:58 PM »
thought SEVERAL military generals had contradicted the UFO cooks and said the US does not have nukes on the moon cause we dont have the technology to send missles into space  ::)
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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 05:33:58 PM »
thought SEVERAL military generals had contradicted the UFO cooks and said the US does not have nukes on the moon cause we dont have the technology to send missles into space  ::)
I don't think anyone would deny we can send missiles into space.  I first read about the technology to shoot down a satelite in popular mechanics in the 80's so it's been around and acknowledged for a long time.  That part isn't anything new.  What I find most curious here is their need to destroy this before re-entry.  I'm suspicous of what they feel needs to be destroyed and I'm not sure I buy they give a crap about the danger this poses to people near the crash site.  I don't get why a spy satelite be the size of a bus and have 1000 lbs of propellant on board.  I would see why 1000lbs of propellant would be on board if there were missiles on board.  SPACE COWBOYS :D  but I admit, I don't know shit about what onboard propellant would be needed to maintain orbit of a bus sized satelite.  Maybe that's normal.  But the CTer in me says, something else could be at work here.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 05:39:28 PM »
also note the extreme taboo in destroying a satelite in orbit, even in low orbit, they admit that this will send out debris that won't reenter anytime soon.  Nasa considers this an absolute nono.  That's absolutely not something the government would sign off on unless there was an extreme must involved.  So there is no doubt here that there is a high priority to destroy this and I doubt the risk of folks around the crash site justify that high priority for them.  Something else is not being told here.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 05:48:18 PM »
our govt does a million things they don't tell us about.

it's for our own good, most of the time.

some of the time, its for their own plundering (war in iraq)/ protection (patriot act).
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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 06:02:30 PM »
our govt does a million things they don't tell us about.

it's for our own good, most of the time.

some of the time, its for their own plundering (war in iraq)/ protection (patriot act).
and sometimes its just for the good of defence contractors who've manipulated the system for everywhichway projects.  There's no telling what is behind classified projects like this.  We're told this is only a spy satellite; there is no telling the reality of what's on board this behemoth.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 08:08:04 PM »
Can't understand why they don't ask the Chinese to take out the satellite - they seem to have the technology.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 08:19:31 PM »
Can't understand why they don't ask the Chinese to take out the satellite - they seem to have the technology.
we had it way way before they did.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:42 PM »
and sometimes its just for the good of defence contractors who've manipulated the system for everywhichway projects.  There's no telling what is behind classified projects like this.  We're told this is only a spy satellite; there is no telling the reality of what's on board this behemoth.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 09:43:05 PM »

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 04:04:08 PM »
Did you guys forget about the Star Wars program in the 80's come on now

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 09:16:47 PM »
Its too bad these "satellites" dont have nukes to "accidently" drop on Iran.

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Re: Bush orders U.S. Navy to shoot down satellite
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 06:56:27 AM »
Why is everything a CT. I'm sure there are plenty of components that they don't want recovered. Why all the fuel....its a spy satelite...they need to move it around alot.
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