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Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« on: February 21, 2008, 03:41:41 PM »
This guy has some advice that Phil Heath should heed.  If Heath is going to add some width to get his pecs where they need to be, he has to do some dumbbell flies.  They just look too narrow for his wide delts and lats.


Any bodybuilder worth his salt knows that to REALLY add some flare to his pecs, he MUST add Incline Dumbbell Flyes to his chest routine.
http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/potent_power_pumping_pecs.htm


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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 07:13:46 PM »
 actually, gh15 has stated the same thing about phil.. flys..

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:15:33 PM »
You can't add "width" to your chest and his delts aren't wide they are big.

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 07:26:36 PM »
 amen disgusted.. on a couple of other boards people ragged me about being negative about phil.. no amount of flys is going to add any width to him.. he is narrow.. that will be more apparent against the big boys.. people misconstrue big delts and being narrow.. he has big delts.. he has a very narrow shoulder structure.. big difference that many are not picking up on.. his muscle groups are very good.. his structure is not..

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 08:59:04 PM »
You can't add "width" to your chest and his delts aren't wide they are big.

Sure you can.  Steve Reeves himself claimed that a wider grip when doing bench press produced more width to one's chest (or perhaps more specifically to one's pecs).  These web site articles all claim you can add width too:


http://www.musclehack.com/how-to-build-chest-muscle/
Add Width To Your Chest

As well as focusing on the top, middle and bottom of your pecs, you should stimulate the sides directly as well. This helps add width and thickness to your chest. Dumbbell flies are perfect for this!

Dumbbell Flies

My favorite chest exercise! Here’s the proper form to use when performing them:

Keep your arms slightly bent at the elbows throughout the movement.
Lower the weight a far down as possible. You should feel a real stretch right across your pecs at the bottom of the rep.
Now push up again until your arms form an ‘A’ shape at the top.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-5-Best-Chest-Building-Exercises-for-Beginning-Bodybuilders&id=921755
4. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys

Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys are designed to build well defined, massive pecs by isolating resistance on the chest as much as possible with strict training technique. Such technique requires the controlled movement of the dumbbells over your chest with your back and shoulders planted firmly on a flat or incline workout bench. This means you shouldn't try to do this exercise with excessively heavy weight (I suggest poundage that allows you to do 10-12 reps). Make sure that you don't jerk the dumbbells together with bodyweight or shoulder assistance. This type of cheating on training technique deprives the chest of the work it needs to grow and simply wastes time. If done properly, this exercise will thicken and shape the "pec-delt tie-ins" where your chest and shoulders meet to give your pecs a full and wide frontal appearance.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=626330

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php?t-367846.html


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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 09:00:48 PM »
Sure you can.  Steve Reeves himself claimed that a wider grip when doing bench press produced more width to one's chest (or perhaps more specifically to one's pecs).  These web site articles all claim you can add width too:


http://www.musclehack.com/how-to-build-chest-muscle/
Add Width To Your Chest

As well as focusing on the top, middle and bottom of your pecs, you should stimulate the sides directly as well. This helps add width and thickness to your chest. Dumbbell flies are perfect for this!

Dumbbell Flies

My favorite chest exercise! Here’s the proper form to use when performing them:

Keep your arms slightly bent at the elbows throughout the movement.
Lower the weight a far down as possible. You should feel a real stretch right across your pecs at the bottom of the rep.
Now push up again until your arms form an ‘A’ shape at the top.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-5-Best-Chest-Building-Exercises-for-Beginning-Bodybuilders&id=921755
4. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys

Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys are designed to build well defined, massive pecs by isolating resistance on the chest as much as possible with strict training technique. Such technique requires the controlled movement of the dumbbells over your chest with your back and shoulders planted firmly on a flat or incline workout bench. This means you shouldn't try to do this exercise with excessively heavy weight (I suggest poundage that allows you to do 10-12 reps). Make sure that you don't jerk the dumbbells together with bodyweight or shoulder assistance. This type of cheating on training technique deprives the chest of the work it needs to grow and simply wastes time. If done properly, this exercise will thicken and shape the "pec-delt tie-ins" where your chest and shoulders meet to give your pecs a full and wide frontal appearance.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=626330

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php?t-367846.html




if Nobel prize-winning medical researcher Steve Reeves said it, it must be true. Phil must Phly.

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 09:08:46 PM »
Sure you can.  Steve Reeves himself claimed that a wider grip when doing bench press produced more width to one's chest (or perhaps more specifically to one's pecs).  These web site articles all claim you can add width too:


http://www.musclehack.com/how-to-build-chest-muscle/
Add Width To Your Chest

As well as focusing on the top, middle and bottom of your pecs, you should stimulate the sides directly as well. This helps add width and thickness to your chest. Dumbbell flies are perfect for this!

Dumbbell Flies

My favorite chest exercise! Here’s the proper form to use when performing them:

Keep your arms slightly bent at the elbows throughout the movement.
Lower the weight a far down as possible. You should feel a real stretch right across your pecs at the bottom of the rep.
Now push up again until your arms form an ‘A’ shape at the top.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-5-Best-Chest-Building-Exercises-for-Beginning-Bodybuilders&id=921755
4. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys

Flat Bench Dumbbell Flys are designed to build well defined, massive pecs by isolating resistance on the chest as much as possible with strict training technique. Such technique requires the controlled movement of the dumbbells over your chest with your back and shoulders planted firmly on a flat or incline workout bench. This means you shouldn't try to do this exercise with excessively heavy weight (I suggest poundage that allows you to do 10-12 reps). Make sure that you don't jerk the dumbbells together with bodyweight or shoulder assistance. This type of cheating on training technique deprives the chest of the work it needs to grow and simply wastes time. If done properly, this exercise will thicken and shape the "pec-delt tie-ins" where your chest and shoulders meet to give your pecs a full and wide frontal appearance.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=626330

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php?t-367846.html




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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 10:45:31 PM »
People say shit all the time. Dont make it true ::)

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 10:53:28 PM »
This guy has some advice that Phil Heath should heed.  If Heath is going to add some width to get his pecs where they need to be, he has to do some dumbbell flies.  They just look too narrow for his wide delts and lats.


Any bodybuilder worth his salt knows that to REALLY add some flare to his pecs, he MUST add Incline Dumbbell Flyes to his chest routine.
http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/potent_power_pumping_pecs.htm



I am sure he will fly you to help train him for the Olympia.Heath is not yet worth his salt I guess oh great one.
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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 08:57:50 AM »
 EVEN THE GREAT STEVE REEVES COULD NOT CHANGE BONE STRUCTURE.. ::)

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Re: Article with advice for f/Phil Heath - Fly, Fly, Fly
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 01:57:43 PM »
EVEN THE GREAT STEVE REEVES COULD NOT CHANGE BONE STRUCTURE.. ::)

Certainly we are all  restricted by our genetics, no question about it.  Are you saying that Heath's pecs are the best they are ever going to get?  If so, I don't see him winning the Olympia, ever.  (And I'm a big fan of Heath.  He has a great physique.)

Re: bone structure, Arnold claimed that he expanded his rib cage by doing lots of pullovers.  Know that Heath can't grow his clavicles any wider, but one can change body structure in some ways beyond muscle growth only.