Republican Congressman indicted in Ariz. land deal

[Hugo Chavez]

seems to be a serious problem for republicans lately.  I'm starting to lose track, there have been so many bad apples for republicans.

WASHINGTON - Republican Rep. Rick Renzi was charged Friday with extortion, wire fraud, money laundering and other crimes in an Arizona land swap that authorities say helped him collect hundreds of thousands of dollars in payoffs.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_go_co/congressman_indicted

[Dos Equis]

I was actually thinking the same thing about Democrats.     Scandals are party neutral.  I just read about one yesterday:  'Missing Candidate' Convicted of Faking Post-Crash Disappearance for Attention.  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331608,00.html

[Hugo Chavez]

I was actually thinking the same thing about Democrats.     Scandals are party neutral.  I just read about one yesterday:  'Missing Candidate' Convicted of Faking Post-Crash Disappearance for Attention.  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331608,00.html

you're nuts if you think the dems over the last 7 years have had more scandals.  The republican list freaking dwarfs the dem list, that's a fact bubba.  In my original post, you'll note I'm talking recently.  This decade is chalking up way way more republican scandals period.  Sorry if that fact puts you into denial.

[Dos Equis]

you're nuts if you think the dems over the last 7 years have had more scandals.  The republican list freaking dwarfs the dem list, that's a fact bubba.  In my original post, you'll note I'm talking recently.  This decade is chalking up way way more republican scandals period.  Sorry if that fact puts you into denial.

I stand by what I said.  Scandals are party neutral. 

[Hugo Chavez]

I stand by what I said.  Scandals are party neutral. 

really, talking about this decade, do you care to prove it?  I can.

[OzmO]

I stand by what I said.  Scandals are party neutral. 

What exactly do you mean by party neutral?    just wondering.  Because i don't think you are suggesting balance, but i could be wrong.

[240 is Back]

i'm sure that some group compiled a list of which congressman have been arrested for what.

smoeone dig up a repub/dem comparison.  neutral facts.

[Dos Equis]

really, talking about this decade, do you care to prove it?  I can.

What's there to prove? 

[Dos Equis]

What exactly do you mean by party neutral?    just wondering.  Because i don't think you are suggesting balance, but i could be wrong.

I mean scandals affect both parties.  No party has a monopoly.  Almost every presidential administration has "scandals," regardless of party.  Republicans commit crimes, indiscretions, etc.  So do Democrats.  The contention that one party is somehow immune from scandal is inaccurate. 

Just within the past year or so, we've seen both Democrats and Republicans arrested and charged with crimes, cheat on their wives, etc.  Happens all the time. 

[headhuntersix]

We could point fingers back and forth to both parties...is anybody really happy with the viable choices for president this year.

[Dos Equis]

We could point fingers back and forth to both parties...is anybody really happy with the viable choices for president this year.

Nope.

[Al Doggity]

I dig my guy. So do most of his supporters.

[Eldon]

I dig my guy. So do most of his supporters.

besides Obama giving great speeches with someone else's words............

which of his political accomplishments as Senator, do you admire the most ?

[War-Horse]

besides Obama giving great speeches with someone else's words............

which of his political accomplishments as Senator, do you admire the most ?

I like the one where he made us feel good about the future, Like, we at least have a chance to undo all the fuck-ups of the Bush years.......Thats a good one.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I think that many people just don't understand that we are going to have to go through some pain and lean years in order to get out of the hole we dug for ourselves. It's gonna mean taking an erasure to the chalkboard and starting all over a new but with old idea that worked.

Obama may offer hope but I think the average supporters think it means the problems will just gonna fix themselves with some sweet words.

[War-Horse]

I think that many people just don't understand that we are going to have to go through some pain and lean years in order to get out of the hole we dug for ourselves. It's gonna mean taking an erasure to the chalkboard and starting all over a new but with old idea that worked.

Obama may offer hope but I think the average supporters think it means the problems will just gonna fix themselves with some sweet words.

Amen, bro.     Gonna be alot of pain, but we got to do it together.

 Partisan politics have to end.......(The repub's will miss the action from teenage boys, its a great sacrifice)

[240 is Back]

besides Obama giving great speeches with someone else's words............
which of his political accomplishments as Senator, do you admire the most ?

your second point is good - but your first one makes you lok ignorant.

Obama gave the man credit for it a year ago when he first used the line, and had permission to use it, and really the story is a non-issue. 

Is obama an accomplished senator?  hell no.  talk about that.  don't discount that point by starting your post with misinformation, as it poisons the good point you made.