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Obama's Plan for Businesses
« on: February 27, 2008, 04:26:34 AM »
Obama's 'Patriot' Act
February 27, 2008; Page A16
OpinionJournal.com

No, we're not talking about Barack Obama's opposition to the post-9/11 antiterror law. We're referring to the Senator's support for something called the Patriot Employer Act, which deserves more attention as an indicator of his economic agenda.

Along with Democratic co-sponsors Sherrod Brown and Dick Durbin, Mr. Obama introduced the bill in the Senate in August 2007. Recently in Janesville, Wis., he repeated his intention to make it a priority as President: "We will end the tax breaks for companies who ship our jobs overseas, and we will give those breaks to companies who create good jobs with decent wages right here in America."
[Barack Obama]

Mr. Obama's proposal would designate certain companies as "patriot employers" and favor them over other, presumably not so patriotic, businesses.

The legislation takes four pages to define "patriotic" companies as those that: "pay at least 60 percent of each employee's health care premiums"; have a position of "neutrality in employee [union] organizing drives"; "maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in the United States relative to the number of full-time workers outside of the United States"; pay a salary to each employee "not less than an amount equal to the federal poverty level"; and provide a pension plan.

In other words, a patriotic employer is one which fulfills the fondest Big Labor agenda, regardless of the competitive implications. The proposal ignores the marketplace reality that businesses hire a work force they can afford to pay and still make money. Coercing companies into raising wages and benefits above market rates may only lead to fewer workers getting hired in the first place.

Under Mr. Obama's plan, "patriot employers" qualify for a 1% tax credit on their profits. To finance this tax break, American companies with subsidiaries abroad would have to pay the U.S. corporate tax on profits earned abroad, rather than the corporate tax of the host country where they are earned. Since the U.S. corporate tax rate is 35%, while most of the world has a lower rate, this amounts to a big tax increase on earnings owned abroad.

Put another way, U.S. companies would suddenly have to pay a higher tax rate than their Chinese, Japanese and European competitors. According to research by Peter Merrill, an international tax expert at PriceWaterhouseCoopers, this change would "raise the cost of capital of U.S. multinationals and cause them to lose market share to foreign rivals." Apparently Mr. Obama believes that by making U.S. companies less profitable and less competitive world-wide, they will somehow be able to create more jobs in America.

He has it backwards: The offshore activities of U.S. companies tend to increase rather than reduce domestic business. A 2005 National Bureau of Economic Research study by economists from Harvard and the University of Michigan found that more foreign investment by U.S. companies leads to greater domestic investment, and that U.S. firms' hiring of more offshore workers is positively, not negatively, associated with the number of American workers they hire. That's in part because often what is produced overseas by subsidiaries are component parts to final, higher-value-added products manufactured here.

Mr. Obama is also proposing to raise tax rates on affluent individuals, as well as on capital gains and dividends. This would also lead to more capital and jobs leaving the U.S. The after-tax return on U.S. investment would fall appreciably if these tax hikes were adopted, and no amount of tax-credit subsidy will keep capital from fleeing to lower tax jurisdictions.

If the U.S. didn't impose the second highest corporate income tax rate in the world, companies would have less incentive to move jobs overseas. Rather than giving politically correct companies a 1% tax credit, it makes more sense to reduce the U.S. corporate tax rate for everyone -- by at least 10 percentage points to the global average.

Economists have long understood that companies don't really pay taxes; they merely collect them. A study by the American Enterprise Institute has shown that U.S. workers bear the cost of the corporate income tax in lower wages and salaries. To borrow Mr. Obama's language, what's really unpatriotic is the 35% U.S. corporate tax rate.

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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 06:52:29 AM »
Interesting, I have not heard this more detailed take on this plan.  It sure sounds good when we says it and everyone cheers...but, as usual, people don't look far enough into the plan and what its full consequences.

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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 09:51:53 AM »
It is more patriotic to let corporations drive US labor into the sewer so it can compete with child labor, no environmental safety conditions, horrible working conditions, little pay, no vacation, no benefits and other such considerations found in the workforce climate of many competing countries.

And if the US labor force does not play ball, well corporate 'America' can up and relocate into these foreign labor "GoldMines"....just like Haliburton did.

As for corporations passing the cost of taxation onto the customer, I say, "great".  That's just how insurance works.  Spread the costs of business around.  But make damn sure you pay your taxes corporate america.


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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 09:55:05 AM »
Obama's 'Patriot' Act
February 27, 2008; Page A16
OpinionJournal.com

The legislation takes four pages to define "patriotic" companies as those that: "pay at least 60 percent of each employee's health care premiums"; have a position of "neutrality in employee [union] organizing drives"; "maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in the United States relative to the number of full-time workers outside of the United States"; pay a salary to each employee "not less than an amount equal to the federal poverty level"; and provide a pension plan.


I like the idea of encouraging business to keep jobs in the U.S., but this is too much.   

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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 10:00:58 AM »
Great plan for the most part.     First: However...dont assume that lowering corporate tax will put more money in profits for the corp, the fact is they will absorb it for higher CEO pay and favors.  This will not benefit our economy one bit.
(Example look at tax breaks for Oil companies, and in return they kill the economy by raising prices).

Second:However...  It will make it harder for an American corp to succeed if these demands of wages and benefits are kept.......Hence Americans will buy the cheaper products and suport the foreign companies.
The only solution for this to work is to raise huge fees on imports, and kill NAFTA to create our own society again..  It will take some drastic actions to change course from the Bush disasters that are heading our way.


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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 10:09:22 AM »
Yes, abandon NAFTA and all unfair trade agreements and increase taxes on imports.  Other countries tax our imports.

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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 10:49:47 AM »

Hahaha.  Do you rocket scientists even look at the economic indicators?

Obama'll (or Clinton) have no problem clowning McCain in November with the state the economy will be in.

Bush tax cuts + War in Iraq = Stagflation.

But I wouldn't expect most here to objectively consider anything.   ::)

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Re: Obama's Plan for Businesses
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 10:53:14 AM »
Hahaha.  Do you rocket scientists even look at the economic indicators?

Obama'll (or Clinton) have no problem clowning McCain in November with the state the economy will be in.

Bush tax cuts + War in Iraq = Stagflation.

But I wouldn't expect most here to objectively consider anything.   ::)



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