You always have losers that try to justify their inferiority by execuses, ....drugs,luck,lack of money....The fact is drugs undeniably help athletes but they are unable to change genetics or structure. These are the only two fundamental variables for success. No matter how much Cycles you take you will not look like Phil Heath or Flex ...But makes you feel good to think that "IF" you wanted to you could look like that .....sure....DREAM ON