Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...

[NarcissisticDeity]

it's so much fun watching ND get owned by everyone.

Yeah owned Hulkster's posting pic of Ronnie from 1998/1999 compared to Flex at the Olympia lol sure I'm getting owned , Flex doesn't look pregnant and I'm getting owned lol I love you simple people you're always good for a laugh . 

[Hulkster]

it's so much fun watching ND get owned by everyone.

yeah.

but its getting old.

Ronnie always tops the lists and it drives ND to the point where he must jump in and campaign for someone else being better.

problem is, reality is NEVER on his side.

and he ends up looking like a complete idiot as a result.

I can't wait for the next time.

and there WILL be a next time..

[NarcissisticDeity]

accord to real life idiot.

and according to almost everyone - including idustry experts from flex.

yet AGAIN, no one agrees with you.


the list was correct.

and you are a bitter bitter man.

stop with the almost everyone nonsense , stop speaking for the masses you moron ! and once again you're lying people one here agree Flex is better so much for that theory  and again they all agree thats the best he ever looked 2001 NOT 1999 and how would 2001 Ronnie fair against Dorian?  yeah I thought so.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah.

but its getting old.

Ronnie always tops the lists and it drive ND to the point where he must jump in and campaign for someone else being better.

problem is, reality is NEVER on his side.

and he ends up looking like a complete idiot as a result.

I can't wait for the next time.

and there WILL be a next time..

Whats not on my side? Ronnie is on my side when he states in 1999 mind you he couldn't beat Dorian , Ronnie is on my side when he says he looked better in 1998 than 1999 , Team Flex is on my side when they stated Dorian has the best back , so did Samir and Ronnie Coleman , McGough states Ronnie 2001 couldn't beat Yates ,  what makes you think for one moment you're subjective opinions are somehow right and mines aren't ?
 
and answer the question 

[NeoSeminole]

Yeah owned Hulkster's posting pic of Ronnie from 1998/1999 compared to Flex at the Olympia lol sure I'm getting owned , Flex doesn't look pregnant and I'm getting owned lol I love you simple people you're always good for a laugh.

let's see... you got called out for your bullshit comparisons and saying Dorian has better arms than Ronnie. Now you're arguing that everyone over at Flex magazine (who saw Flex, Dorian, and Ronnie compete) is wrong and you are right. Oh brother!

[NarcissisticDeity]

let's see... you got called out for your bullshit comparisons and saying Dorian has better arms than Ronnie. Now you're arguing that everyone over at Flex magazine (who saw both Flex and Ronnie compete) is wrong and you are right. Oh brother!

No Yates does have better triceps and forearms than Ronnie , old news that isn't bull shit thats obvious .

and just like you have argued with Ronnie , Samir , and Team Flex , Bev Francis , Dorian Yates , Lee Priest , Peter McGough , etc   on any pro Yates argument who all saw both at their best that they're wrong and you're right   

as usual you have nothing for me kid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Peter McGough Ironage Oct 13 , 2007

Who had the best forearms you ever seen : Best forearms I have seen with my own peepers. not in order: Kaz, Dorian Yates, Gunnar Rosbo, Lee Priest, Phil Heath, Armin Shultz, Flex Lewis.

Again stating the obvious and FYI forearms are part of the ' arms '  now what was that again about bullshit? lol

[NeoSeminole]

No Yates does have better triceps and forearms than Ronnie , old news that isn't bull shit thats obvious.

yawn, "better triceps" my ass. Ronnie's have more mass and better definition.

and just like you have argued with Ronnie , Samir , and Team Flex , Bev Francis , Dorian Yates , Lee Priest , Peter McGough , etc   on any pro Yates argument who all saw both at their best that they're wrong and you're right

Ronnie is stupid, plain and simple. He's proven he's not a reliable source. The same guy denied any injuries when they were painfully obvious and believed he won the 06 Mr. Olympia. It speaks volumes about the strength (or lack thereof) of your argument if you use him as a source.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, "better triceps" my ass. Ronnie's have more hang and better definition.


Ronnie is stupid, plain and simple. He's proven he's not a reliable source. The same guy denied any injuries when they were painfully obvious and believed he won the 06 Mr. Olympia. It speaks volumes about the strength (or lack thereof) of your argument if you cite him as a source. Furthermore, show me where I said Team Flex, Bev Francis, Dorian Yates, and Peter McGough are all wrong.

yawn, "better triceps" my ass. Ronnie's have more hang and better definition.

lmfao you sound like pumpster with the ' show muscles '  more hang what a fucking idiot , what about a better side head better proportion in relation to the biceps and forearms , again like Hulkster hyperfocusing on what you think is an advantage while ignoring the rest and please spare me your ' comparisons ' the end result of fan-boy delusion , and again I'm right about the forearms as well as the triceps so much for bull shit 

Ronnie is stupid, plain and simple. He's proven he's not a reliable source. The same guy denied any injuries when they were painfully obvious and believed he won the 06 Mr. Olympia. It speaks volumes about the strength (or lack thereof) of your argument if you cite him as a source. Furthermore, show me where I said Team Flex, Bev Francis, Dorian Yates, and Peter McGough are all wrong.

I always laugh when you type Ronnie is stupid lol just coming from you its ironic and he supplements my other sources thats how its done , and Team Flex was wrong Yates had a better back , Bev Francis is wrong Yates symmetry was near perfect , Yates is wrong stating he has better balance & conditioning than Ronnie , and McGough is wrong for stating Ronnie has NEVER been as hard or as dry as Dorian

again you're a hypocrite because you're guilty of everything you accused me of 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex is better than Ronnie because he doesn't look pregnant any questions? 

[NeoSeminole]

lmfao you sound like pumpster with the ' show muscles ' more hang what a fucking idiot , what about a better side head better proportion in relation to the biceps and forearms , again like Hulkster hyperfocusing on what you think is an advantage while ignoring the rest and please spare me your ' comparisons ' the end result of fan-boy delusion , and again I'm right about the forearms as well as the triceps so much for bull shit

sorry, all I heard was "I'm right and you're wrong." I'm waiting for your explanation for why Dorian has better triceps.

I always laugh when you type Ronnie is stupid lol just coming from you its ironic and he supplements my other sources thats how its done , and Team Flex was wrong Yates had a better back , Bev Francis is wrong Yates symmetry was near perfect , Yates is wrong stating he has better balance & conditioning than Ronnie , and McGough is wrong for stating Ronnie has NEVER been as hard or as dry as Dorian

I already demonstrated why Ronnie isn't a reliable source. You undermine yourself every time you quote him to support your argument. As for Team Flex, Bev Francis and Dorian, I agreed with Team Flex about Ronnie having the best back, Bev Francis about symmetry = proportion, and Dorian about the judges choosing Ronnie over him. So I don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry, all I heard was "I'm right and you're wrong." I'm waiting for your explanation for why Dorian has better triceps.

I already demonstrated why he's not a reliable source. You undermine yourself every time you quote him to support your argument. As for Team Flex, Bev Francis and Dorian, I agreed with Team Flex about Ronnie having the best back, Bev Francis about symmetry = proportion, and Dorian about the judges choosing Ronnie over him. So I don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

sorry, all I heard was "I'm right and you're wrong." I'm waiting for your explanation for why Dorian has better triceps.

I've explained a million times and touched on it above , I know your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired but pay attention 

I already demonstrated why he's not a reliable source. You undermine yourself every time you quote him to support your argument. As for Team Flex, Bev Francis and Dorian, I agreed with Team Flex about Ronnie having the best back, Bev Francis about symmetry = proportion, and Dorian about the judges choosing Ronnie over him. So I don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

Sure you did  Ronnie's points are supplemented with others thats called converging evidence Neo , look it up  no you DISAGREED with Team Flex and Ronnie and Samir when they said Yates has a better back , proportion is part of symmetry NOT all of it  and Yates never commited to an answer unlike Coleman who did  so nice try as usual Neo but run along you bore me 

[NeoSeminole]

I've explained a million times and touched on it above , I know your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired but pay attention

saying "you sound like pumpster with the 'show muscles' more hang what a fucking idiot" doesn't constitute a valid explanation. I'm still waiting to hear why Dorian has better triceps when Ronnie beats him in overall triceps mass, separations, and striations.

Sure you did Ronnie's points are supplemented with others thats called converging evidence Neo , look it up no you DISAGREED with Team Flex and Ronnie and Samir when they said Yates has a better back , proportion is part of symmetry NOT all of it and Yates never commited to an answer unlike Coleman who did so nice try as usual Neo but run along you bore me

I've posted 4x the amount of "converging evidence" as you. So what's your point?

[NeoSeminole]

some crazy shots of Ronnie's striated triceps.

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie's triceps even looked good in other poses besides the "side triceps."

[NarcissisticDeity]

saying "you sound like pumpster with the 'show muscles' more hang what a fucking idiot" doesn't constitute a valid explanation. I'm still waiting to hear why Dorian has better triceps when Ronnie beats him in overall triceps mass, separations, and striations.

I've posted 4x the amount of "converging evidence" as you. So what's your point?

saying "you sound like pumpster with the 'show muscles' more hang what a fucking idiot" doesn't constitute a valid explanation. I'm still waiting to hear why Dorian has better triceps when Ronnie beats him in overall triceps mass, separations, and striations.

Mass depending on the year now mass & density are two separate entities and I've explained a million times you just don't like the answer again he has a better side head it has better shape and separation , his triceps are striated as well now couple that with better proportion in relation between the rest of the ARMS Neo and you have your answer 

I've posted 4x the amount of "converging evidence" as you. So what's your point?

One no you didn't I never seen one single quote from anyone who states specific to the argument or Ronnie V Dorian  that Ronnie is harder & drier than Yates ever was , I posted several specific ( key word ) and you posted questions and tried to past them off as declarations lmfao

and the bottom line is this , don't dare say I'm in conflict with those in the know especially when you're idiot who claims every pro Yates quote is wrong and you the ' certified personal trainer ' is right .

[Camel Jockey]

Flex is better than Ronnie because he doesn't look pregnant any questions? 

It doesn't effect his mandatory poses.

Isn't that the same excuse you use to defend Dorian's horrible and ripped up arms? Fucking moron.

[NarcissisticDeity]

some crazy shots of Ronnie's striated triceps.

Hey look ma striated triceps

[NarcissisticDeity]

It doesn't effect his mandatory poses.

Isn't that the same excuse you use to defend Dorian's horrible and ripped up arms? Fucking moron.

It doesn't effect his mandatory poses? lol says you and what do you know? ( no much ) sure it does especially compared to someone who doesn't have any gut what so ever , looking pregnant is the antithesis of pure bodybuilding

I never said it didn't effect his mandatories in fact I said the only one it really would is the front double biceps shot , now don't you look stupid making shit up to try and prove a point , but you don't mind looking stupid now do you? 

stick to nursing Nasser's balls you're better at that .

[NeoSeminole]

Mass depending on the year now mass & density are two separate entities and I've explained a million times you just don't like the answer again he has a better side head it has better shape and separation , his triceps are striated as well now couple that with better proportion in relation between the rest of the ARMS Neo and you have your answer

yawn, no pics = no argument.

One no you didn't I never seen one single quote from anyone who states specific to the argument or Ronnie V Dorian  that Ronnie is harder & drier than Yates ever was , I posted several specific ( key word ) and you posted questions and tried to past them off as declarations lmfao

I've posted plenty of quotes saying Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time, Ronnie is better than Dorian, Ronnie has the best back ever, Ronnie is the most shredded bodybuilder ever. I even posted a quote from Ronnie himself saying he would beat a prime Dorian, which you conveniently ignore. Face it kid, if you want to bring quotes into this argument, then you've been soundly defeated.

and the bottom line is this , don't dare say I'm in conflict with those in the know especially when you're idiot who claims every pro Yates quote is wrong and you the ' certified personal trainer ' is right.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."


I just posted 7 quotes from people who all saw both Dorian and Ronnie compete on stage, and they all agree that Ronnie would beat Dorian. Now that's "converging evidence," kiddo.

[NeoSeminole]

Hey look ma striated triceps

too bad Dorian didn't have striated triceps when it counted most - the side triceps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, no pics = no argument.

I've posted plenty of quotes saying Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time, Ronnie is better than Dorian, Ronnie has the best back ever, Ronnie is the most shredded bodybuilder ever. I even posted a quote from Ronnie himself saying he would beat a prime Dorian, which you conveniently ignore. Face it kid, if you want to bring quotes into this argument, then you've been soundly defeated.



Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."


Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."


I just posted 7 quotes from people who all saw both Dorian and Ronnie compete on stage, and they all agree that Ronnie would beat Dorian. Now that's "converging evidence."

yawn, no pics = no argument.

See above 

I've posted plenty of quotes saying Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time, Ronnie is better than Dorian, Ronnie has the best back ever, Ronnie is the most shredded bodybuilder ever. I even posted a quote from Ronnie himself saying he would beat a prime Dorian, which you conveniently ignore. Face it kid, if you want to bring quotes into this argument, then you've been soundly defeated.

Who is arguing to the contrary Ronnie isn't the greatest of all time? it doesn't matter lmfao that has NOTHING to do with if Yates could beat him  , again what makes your quotes about Ronnie having the best back right and mine wrong? answer the question LMFAO most shredded bodybuilder ever my ass

you NEVER posted a quote of Ronnie saying he would beat prime Yates thats an outright LIE he eluded to it and NEVER once committed to it BIG DIFFERENCE little man and the other lie is I ignored it , you're getting desperate Neo when you're forced to make shit up 

and you only defeated yourself because you're forced to make heavily slanted fan-boy comparisons and outright LIE about quotes you have NOTHING for me Ronnie Coleman has gone on record not once but twice saying he wouldn't beat Dorian , that ended the Truce Thread the only reason its still going is because of bitter fan-boys like yourself  and now you're forced to chasing me around trying to change every single thread into the truce thread


Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005[/b]

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

That quote is obsolete 


While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212[/b]

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

LMFAO again who is arguing he's not the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived? not I. this has absolutely NOTHING to do with if Dorian could beat him at his best , again you post this idiot quotes for NO reason what so ever

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

and you say Ronnie is stupid lol this is the same guy who had Ronnie winning the pre-judging last year , enough said

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website[/b]

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

see the word probably ? look it up its an opinion doesn't make it true

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004[/b]

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

lmfao again you post this shit for NO reason this has NOTHING to do with Dorian Yates it has to do with Ronnie setting the bar in 2003 its stating the obvious , hint don't play the quote game because you're not any good at it

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999[/b]

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Same magazine Ernie Taylor states Dorian would have beaten Ronnie , again subjective opinion neither men are right or wrong you posted this all for not

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview[/b]

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Now you're reduced to omitting parts of quote what followed that? the words " I don't KNOW "  no where is that definite answer to the question , see above about lying 

again enough with this shit , this has been beat to death I stated I think Flex is better than Ronnie because he was outstanding without looking pregnant and I stand by my point , lets stick to the topic fan boy . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

too bad Dorian didn't have striated triceps when it counted most - the side triceps.

Again what does that matter? as a whole Dorian's side triceps shot blows Ronnie's out of the fucking water and thanks for proving my point Dorian's triceps are better than Ronnie's ( so was Flexes ) again Dorian has better triceps AND forearms ( pay attention idiot NOT bigger triceps but better  )

[NeoSeminole]

See above

all I see is Dorian hitting the same pose 3x. Show me how they look in other poses like I did with Ronnie.

Who is arguing to the contrary Ronnie isn't the greatest of all time? it doesn't matter lmfao that has NOTHING to do with if Yates could beat him, again what makes your quotes about Ronnie having the best back right and mine wrong? answer the question LMFAO most shredded bodybuilder ever my ass

Ronnie's back improved at the 01 ASC (better definition) and 03 Mr. Olympia (better size). The quote you posted was from 99. So it's null and void. The new Flex list takes into account Ronnie's latter years.

you NEVER posted a quote of Ronnie saying he would beat prime Yates thats an outright LIE he eluded to it and NEVER once committed to it BIG DIFFERENCE little man and the other lie is I ignored it , you're getting desperate Neo when you're forced to make shit up

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

[NarcissisticDeity]

all I see is Dorian hitting the same pose 3x. Show me how they look in other poses like I did with Ronnie.

Ronnie's back improved at the 01 ASC (better definition) and 03 Mr. Olympia (better size). The quote you posted was from 99. So it's null and void. The new Flex list takes into account Ronnie's latter years.



Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

all I see is Dorian hitting the same pose 3x. Show me how they look in other poses like I did with Ronnie.

It doesn't matter its shows striations and funny you tried to used that as an angle for Ronnie's triceps being better , but when posted with the same about Yates back you dismissed them as an advantage can you say hypocrite? 

Ronnie's back improved at the 01 ASC (better definition) and 03 Mr. Olympia (better size). The quote you posted was from 99. So it's null and void. The new Flex list takes into account Ronnie's latter years.

my ass his back was comparable in definition in 1998 as it was in 2001 which ironically are hailed as his two best showings specifically because he was as hard & dry as he ever was , and 2003  oh boy lol his back was huge and soft especially compared to 1998 and 2001 and stop trying to gather advantages over the years

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

NO WHERE does he commit to an answer and the two occasions he did commit to answer what did he say? yeah I thought so