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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #125 on: March 01, 2008, 02:30:12 PM »
I don't think dorian's triceps have ever looked this good.

striated and shapely, with larger size than dorian ever had.
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #126 on: March 01, 2008, 02:31:33 PM »
ps notice how ND is losing the whole flex vs ronnie argument (there never WAS an argument to begin with based on the visuals) and now he is back to dorian vs ronnie, which, like the flex argument, is stupid.

the visuals do not show dorian being better.

not at all.
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #127 on: March 01, 2008, 02:33:33 PM »
Oh and by the way Neo lol why are you posting quotes from Ronnie Coleman as some sort of proof of anything? he is after all according to you stupid lol yeah I thought so  ;)

you're a simple little man Neo you're not in my league kid

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #128 on: March 01, 2008, 02:35:06 PM »
ps notice how ND is losing the whole flex vs ronnie argument (there never WAS an argument to begin with based on the visuals) and now he is back to dorian vs ronnie, which, like the flex argument, is stupid.

the visuals do not show dorian being better.

not at all.

LMFAO I didn't change this to Dorian you morons did , I said ( go and look ) lets stick to the topic , oh snap

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you're like Neo to simple , Flex is better because he doesn't have a GUT its that simple and the visuals prove my point .  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #129 on: March 01, 2008, 02:36:47 PM »
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Flex is better because he doesn't have a GUT its that simple and the visuals prove my point

no, the visuals prove flex is inferior in every way including 7 mandatory poses.

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #130 on: March 01, 2008, 02:38:13 PM »
no, the visuals prove flex is inferior in every way including 7 mandatory poses.

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To you sure , you're a delusional internet-fan-boy that gut can be seen in most of the mandatories and the same with the transition to them thats NOT bodybuilding kid and neither is his bitch tits any other questions ?

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #131 on: March 01, 2008, 02:41:03 PM »
To you sure , you're a delusional internet-fan-boy that gut can be seen in most of the mandatories and the same with the transition to them thats NOT bodybuilding kid and neither is his bitch tits any other questions ?

yes.

why do you know so little about bodybuilding such that you freak out when ever peak Ronnie tops all these lists?

and, as a follow up question:

why do you not seem to care that flex not only lost all those poses, but was softer and smaller than ronnie? sure Ronnie had a  gut.

but flex had no lats compared to ronnie.

flaws are flaws.

being NARROW AS HELL is not bodybuilding either kid.
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #132 on: March 01, 2008, 02:47:40 PM »
yes.

why do you know so little about bodybuilding such that you freak out when ever peak Ronnie tops all these lists?

and, as a follow up question:

why do you not seem to care that flex not only lost all those poses, but was softer and smaller than ronnie? sure Ronnie had a  gut.

but flex had no lats compared to ronnie.

flaws are flaws.

being NARROW AS HELL is not bodybuilding either kid.

I don't freak out thats your lame interpretation I disagree big difference I'm not melting down like you or Neo or pumpster did on the Truce Thread , I don't meltdown thats NOT my M.O. again its subjective especially about the backs it could go either way something I maintained always on subjective matters

and again what makes team Flex right and Ronnie Coleman , Samir Bannout & Markus Rhul wrong? they all say Yates has a better back are they ' freaking out ' as well? stop projecting your frustration level on me

Again both have advantages over the other I could list Flexes but it doesn't matter because despite any flaw you can name Flex still managed to beat Ronnie , however looking pregnant isn't a flaw its goes against everything bodybuilding is , Flex has the right amount of size , outstanding conditioning , shape and aesthetics and he doesn't look pregnant its that simple .


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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #133 on: March 01, 2008, 02:52:08 PM »
Flex is narrow, there's nothing he can do about it.. He was born that way.. But he beat Ronnie in details of the back pose
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #134 on: March 01, 2008, 02:53:25 PM »
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doesn't matter because despite any flaw you can name Flex still managed to beat Ronnie

yes, when Ronnie was competing in 1995..

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #135 on: March 01, 2008, 02:54:32 PM »
Flex is narrow, there's nothing he can do about it.. He was born that way.. But he beat Ronnie in details of the back pose

flex beat ANYONE in terms of the detail of the back double bi.

including dorian.

the problem was his back lacked thickness compared to dorian and ronnie. and he was narrow.
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #136 on: March 01, 2008, 02:55:38 PM »
yes, when Ronnie was competing in 1995..

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and 1996 and 1997  ;) stop seriously Ronnie was always wider than Flex that never stopped Flex was beating him and MANY more guys much wider

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #137 on: March 01, 2008, 02:58:34 PM »
flex beat ANYONE in terms of the detail of the back double bi.

including dorian.

the problem was his back lacked thickness compared to dorian and ronnie. and he was narrow.

Dorian said the one guy he thought who could give him problems was Flex despite not being as wide or as thick , again you have the balls to type Shawn Ray did beat Yates but he wasn't anywhere near as wide , its okay when you think its not big deal but if its Ronnie forget it another of the countless examples of you being a hypocrite and a internet-fan-boy  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #138 on: March 01, 2008, 03:11:15 PM »
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Shawn Ray did beat Yates but he wasn't anywhere near as wide

sigh.

you are so simple.

dorian in 94 WAS wider, but looked like shit compared to shawn according to everyone but you. ::)

Flex 93 was narrow compared to Ronnie, but also was smaller, and not as hard in many areas.

width was NOT the ONLY reason that Ronnie would win.

but it was one of several.

you still don't understand how this sport is judged - you still break it up into isolated peices and can't figure out that the sport is not judged that way..

eg. you insist that no matter what the rest of him looks like relative to Flex, ronnie should not win with a gut.

problem is, that is NOT how the judges look at it.

never have. never will.

no one else does either.

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eg. here is your gut man destroying flex

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #139 on: March 01, 2008, 03:16:55 PM »
sigh.

you are so simple.

dorian in 94 WAS wider, but looked like shit compared to shawn according to everyone but you. ::)

Flex 93 was narrow compared to Ronnie, but also was smaller, and not as hard in many areas.

width was NOT the ONLY reason that Ronnie would win.

but it was one of several.

you still don't understand how this sport is judged - you still break it up into isolated peices and can't figure out that the sport is not judged that way..

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MORON I posted a pic of Dorian in 1995 and you claimed Shawn was owning him despite not being anywhere near as wide or as thick or as big etc now thats okay but when flex beats Ronnie its NOT  ::)

again Ronnie is wider it doesn't mean he would beat Flex , Flex has advantages Ronnie does NOT stop hyperfocusing on what YOU thinks wins contest as a whole when all things are considered Flex is better  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #140 on: March 01, 2008, 03:30:20 PM »
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Flex has advantages Ronnie does NOT stop hyperfocusing on what YOU thinks wins contest as a whole when all things are considered Flex is better 


yeah, its just me who thinks so ::).

check the flex list again buddy... ::)

Ronnie tops the list killing flex, just like he topped the best back list killing dorian and finished last in the Peter McGough article about Mr. Olympia appearences that 'advanced the sport' besting dorian in that too.

pull out more hair kid. bite some more fingernails.

the bb community gives peak Ronnie the praise he deserves, rightfully putting him ahead of everyone else time after time.

deal with it kid
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #141 on: March 01, 2008, 03:34:31 PM »
It doesn't matter its shows striations and funny you tried to used that as an angle for Ronnie's triceps being better , but when posted with the same about Yates back you dismissed them as an advantage can you say hypocrite?

it does matter. Dorian's triceps lack striations in the very pose that's suppose to show them off - the side triceps. Regarding your comment about Dorian's back, I never dismissed his striated traps. I think they're pretty f*cking impressive. However, Ronnie's back as a whole is more impressive.

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my ass his back was comparable in definition in 1998 as it was in 2001 which ironically are hailed as his two best showings specifically because he was as hard & dry as he ever was , and 2003  oh boy lol his back was huge and soft especially compared to 1998 and 2001 and stop trying to gather advantages over the years

huh? You just repeated what I said back to me, but worded it like you disagree with me. ???

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NO WHERE does he commit to an answer and the two occasions he did commit to answer what did he say? yeah I thought so

Ronnie does commit to an answer. If he had simply said "who do you think?," then you might have something to work with. It doesn't get any more explicit than this.

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win?"


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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #142 on: March 01, 2008, 03:36:04 PM »

yeah, its just me who thinks so ::).

check the flex list again buddy... ::)

Ronnie tops the list killing flex, just like he topped the best back list killing dorian and finished last in the Peter McGough article about Mr. Olympia appearences that 'advanced the sport' besting dorian in that too.

pull out more hair kid. bite some more fingernails.

the bb community gives peak Ronnie the praise he deserves, rightfully putting him ahead of everyone else time after time.

deal with it kid

Do you have to try and follow every thing I do? ( kid ) stop playing follow the leader  ;)

Again what makes Team Flex right and Ronnie Coleman , Markus Rhul , Team Flex ( 1999 ) Samir Bannout and Ellington Darden, Ph.D. wrong? you keep running from this question for a reason  ;)

Peter McGough states Ronnie 2001 was his best showing ( which you denied ) and says its better than 1999 Mr Olympia ( which you denied ) and then goes on to state Ronnie couldn't beat Yates at 269 pounds so stop quoting him like it favors your point , it doesn't


and Ronnie Coleman himself said no once but twice he would never be able to beat Dorian what makes you or anyone more right then this man?  ;) you have nothing as usual ....yeah I thought so  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #143 on: March 01, 2008, 03:43:09 PM »
it does matter. Dorian's triceps lack striations in the very pose that's suppose to show them off - the side triceps. Regarding your comment about Dorian's back, I never dismissed his striated traps. I think they're pretty f*cking impressive. However, Ronnie's back as a whole is more impressive.

huh? You just repeated what I said back to me, but worded it like you disagree with me. ???

Ronnie does commit to an answer. If he had simply said "who do you think?," then you might have something to work with. It doesn't get any more explicit than this.

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win?"



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it does matter. Dorian's triceps lack striations in the very pose that's suppose to show them off - the side triceps. Regarding your comment about Dorian's back, I never dismissed his striated traps. I think they're pretty f*cking impressive. However, Ronnie's back as a whole is more impressive.

Who says that shot is supposed to show them off? it doesn't mater he has them you're arguing over trivial shit here , and it wasn't just the striated traps it was the lats & spinal erectors

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huh? You just repeated what I said back to me, but worded it like you disagree with me. ???

I do disagree that Ronnie showed more definition in his back post 1999 his back was just as defined in 1998 as it was in 2001 so that does NOT render that list moot and in 2003 Ronnie's back was wider than it was in 1999 albeit softer and not as detailed again its not an advantage , Dorian's back at 269 pounds has the best of all worlds width , thickness , detail and separation better than Ronnie 2001 & 2003 as a whole

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Ronnie does commit to an answer. If he had simply said "who do you think?," then you might have something to work with. It doesn't get any more explicit than this.

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win?"

No he doesn't again thats a lie , please show me where he says I would beat them , he doesn't he eludes to it big difference and this does nothing for the two occasions he did commit to an answer and what did he say? yeah I thought so  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #144 on: March 01, 2008, 03:46:53 PM »
Oh and by the way Neo lol why are you posting quotes from Ronnie Coleman as some sort of proof of anything? he is after all according to you stupid lol yeah I thought so

I posted the quote from Ronnie b/c it contradicts yours. I never would've used it if you didn't post the quote from him saying Dorian would beat him.

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you're a simple little man Neo you're not in my league kid

ha ha ha, you keep thinking that. I'll keep tearing your arguments apart and let others decide who owns who.

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #145 on: March 01, 2008, 03:55:15 PM »
Who says that shot is supposed to show them off? it doesn't mater he has them you're arguing over trivial shit here , and it wasn't just the striated traps it was the lats & spinal erectors

the people who named the pose determined what it's supposed to show off, you dumbass.

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I do disagree that Ronnie showed more definition in his back post 1999 his back was just as defined in 1998 as it was in 2001 so that does NOT render that list moot and in 2003 Ronnie's back was wider than it was in 1999 albeit softer and not as detailed again its not an advantage , Dorian's back at 269 pounds has the best of all worlds width , thickness , detail and separation better than Ronnie 2001 & 2003 as a whole

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"NUMBER ONE: RONNIE COLEMAN, 2001
Simply the best physique I’ve ever seen onstage. At 245 pounds King Ron was full and shredded from head-to-toe: his cuts being deeper than Bill Gates’ pockets. His delts, arms and chest were spectacular, his back really beyond description. Ten seconds after he first walked out the contest was over."

Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Tohhttp://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

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No he doesn't again thats a lie , please show me where he says I would beat them , he doesn't he eludes to it big difference and this does nothing for the two occasions he did commit to an answer and what did he say? yeah I thought so

take an English class and then read the quote again. ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #146 on: March 01, 2008, 03:55:37 PM »
I posted the quote from Ronnie b/c it contradicts yours. I never would've used it if you didn't post the quote from him saying Dorian would beat him.

ha ha ha, you keep thinking that. I'll keep tearing your arguments apart and let others decide who owns who.

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I posted the quote from Ronnie b/c it contradicts yours. I never would've used it if you didn't post the quote from him saying Dorian would beat him.

It does NOT contradict mine not in the least he NEVER commits to an answer so much for your stupidity and again even if it did he's stupid ( according to you ) so its moot so once again you're back where you started with nothing

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ha ha ha, you keep thinking that. I'll keep tearing your arguments apart and let others decide who owns who.

to bad you NEVER ' tore my argument ' apart again you've said it was wrong BIG DIFFERENCE between saying its wrong and proving its wrong , my argument still stands Dorian would beat Ronnie because he has better balance & proportion ( proven ) better density & dryness ( proven ) more complete ( obvious ) a better technical poser ( duh ) and meets the criteria better ( old news ) all you have is denial and anyone who agrees with you is just as dumb as you and remember I'm teaching YOU about competitive bodybuilding not vice versa , as far as knowing competitive bodybuilding you're not in my league kid ( proven fact  ;) )

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #147 on: March 01, 2008, 04:00:39 PM »
the people who named the pose determined what it's supposed to show off, you dumbass.

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"NUMBER ONE: RONNIE COLEMAN, 2001
Simply the best physique I’ve ever seen onstage. At 245 pounds King Ron was full and shredded from head-to-toe: his cuts being deeper than Bill Gates’ pockets. His delts, arms and chest were spectacular, his back really beyond description. Ten seconds after he first walked out the contest was over."

Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Tohhttp://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

take an English class and then read the quote again. ;)

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the people who named the pose determined what it's supposed to show off, you dumbass.

Idiot STRIATIONS are genetic not everyone has them and when the pose was named the levels of conditioning where NO WHERE near showing striations lmfao just another example of you not knowing what the fuck you're talking about lol fuck me you're simple

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"NUMBER ONE: RONNIE COLEMAN, 2001
Simply the best physique I’ve ever seen onstage. At 245 pounds King Ron was full and shredded from head-to-toe: his cuts being deeper than Bill Gates’ pockets. His delts, arms and chest were spectacular, his back really beyond description. Ten seconds after he first walked out the contest was over."

Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Tohhttp://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

again idiot what does any of these quotes have to do with DORIAN YATES at 269 pounds? NOTHING why do you do this to yourself? you make it to easy to expose how stupid you are

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take an English class and then read the quote again. ;)

please show me definitively where he states he would beat any of them , please Neo do so  ;)

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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #148 on: March 01, 2008, 05:00:48 PM »
What does conditioning have to do with anything? Flex had outstanding conditioning at the 93 ASC without that ridiculous gut

I stilll can't believe this moron thinks he has a clue what he is talking about ..

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here is Ronnie teaching YOU and FLEX a lesson in conditioning:
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Re: Flex Ranks the BEST Arnold Classic showings of all time ...
« Reply #149 on: March 01, 2008, 05:31:08 PM »



 NUMBER THREE: JAY CUTLER, 2002
Apart from the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest maybe the hardest he’s ever been. With deeply embedded abs and full thighs more ripped than Britney Spears’ copy of Hide and Seek For Dummies, Cutler relegated Chris Cormier to the third of what was to become a run of six consecutive runner-up spots.



 

is this a a joke?

cormier was much better that night and jay is ranked 3rd all time ???

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