The irony of the puppy thread...

[Deicide]

Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.

[danielson]

The puppy was innocent, hell given the opportunity it could probably blend into our culture and become an American puppy. The same can not be said for Iraqis, thats why no one really cares that they are being killed.

[MB_722]

Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.

YES I agree.

people definitely need to get their priorities straight

[kiwiol]

Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.

The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.

[Deicide]

The puppy was innocent, hell given the opportunity it could probably blend into our culture and become an American puppy. The same can not be said for Iraqis, thats why no one really cares that they are being killed.

Normal working families and their children are not innocent? Are you on crack? Where the fuck did you get that info?

[~flower~]

Pointing out when something is messed up IS having your priorities straight.

[danielson]

Normal working families and their children are not innocent? Are you on crack? Where the fuck did you get that info?

Some are innocent, some aren't. But that puppy was definitely innocent.

[Deicide]

The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.

I agree but claiming that normal Iraqi families are not innocent....at the very least their children....

[MB_722]

The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.

being cold blooded has nothing to do with it

it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.

my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.

[Deicide]

Pointing out when something is messed up IS having your priorities straight.

Not enough people pointing out human rights abuses. I agree about the puppy but do you get upset by this as well?

[Deicide]

being cold blooded has nothing to do with it

it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.

my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.

Exactly.

[JOHN MATRIX]

maybe the dog was pissing him off?

[Rami]

I'm more concerned about what might become of that soldier in the future. People that display animal cruelty and sadistic behavior are often on a common path to become very sick individuals that are a danger to people around them.

Look up http://www.google.com/search?q=serial+killers+animal+cruelty

[~flower~]

So you can't have a thread about one topic?   You can't care about more than one thing?


  I love the "this is worse so shut up about that" argument.


  Maybe that's the problem.   


       

[240 is Back]

The world is messed up.  Competing entities that are above us, plain and simple.

All we can do it live our lives and try not to fall for BS.

Nobody will ever 'change the world' again.

[~flower~]

it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.

Putting it into perspective is knowing there are assholes like that all over that could care about other living things.  And I have to live amongst them.

  If a person gets off on being cruel, yeah, I put that into perspective.

[kiwiol]

being cold blooded has nothing to do with it

it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.

my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.

Just because people here are expressing sympathy for the puppy doesn't mean they are oblivious to all those other atrocities dude. This is a forum where different topics are discussed and the reactions vary depending on the subject under discussion. Say what you want, it doesn't matter how many civilians are killed or how many people starve - none of that takes away from the fact that what the asshole in the video clip did was just plain unacceptable.

I'm sure if most of the people here (if not all of them) came across a victim of war or crime or whatever, they'd be sympathetic and helpful in whatever way possible. And no matter what the tragedy is, there's always a bigger one that will make it pale in comparison. How would you like it if a loved one of yours died and someone came and said, "You can't be serious - so and so has suffered way more than you because they have lost 2 or 3 members of their family in war" - would you immediately feel fully consoled or ashamed that you were grieving over what is metaphysically less significant?

Just because there is something worse out there doesn't mean you can use that as an excuse and ignore or be unsympathetic to something far less bad that's happening in front of your eyes.

[~flower~]

  good post kiwi 

[Deicide]

So you can't have a thread about one topic?   You can't care about more than one thing?


  I love the "this is worse so shut up about that" argument.


  Maybe that's the problem.   

No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.

There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it.
       

No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.

There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it

[~flower~]

No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.

There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it

so go start one.

 Don't you think there are more important things to be upset about than how many threads are going on different topics and how long they are.

  get your priorities straight.

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[kiwiol]

  good post kiwi 

Does this mean you're gonna PM me some raunchy pics?

Oh wait, someone just died in Iraq - I'm gonna grieve cause otherwise I'm not human like Deicide or MB

[~flower~]

Does this mean you're gonna PM me some raunchy pics?

Oh wait, someone just died in Iraq - I'm gonna grieve cause otherwise I'm not human like Deicide or MB

  when the world is at peace and tranquility is the word!

[kiwiol]

  when the world is at peace and tranquility is the word!

In other words when you have your next joint? Sweet

[Deicide]

so go start one.

 Don't you think there are more important things to be upset about than how many threads are going on different topics and how long they are.

  get your priorities straight.

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That's not the point. I know you like dogs.

I have a question for you.

If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?

[knny187]

That's not the point. I know you like dogs.

I have a question for you.

If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?

thats easy.....

duh