Rush Limbaugh tells Repubs to vote for Clinton, to keep the Dem primaries a mess

[240 is Back]

Wow.  Scumbag.  Corrupting the entire democratic process and casting doubt upon the legitimacy of our American voting process, just to damage the other party.

Scumbag.  I listen to Rush now and then for differing views.  He's a scumbag.

[240 is Back]

"I want Obama bloodied politically." - Rush limbaugh.

[Tesla]

What's the big deal?  Rush has his preferences and they obviously don't include a democrat in the White House.  The republican contest is locked up so there's really nothing for them to gain by voting for McCain.  It's not like he's telling his fans to do anything illegal. 

[240 is Back]

What's the big deal?  Rush has his preferences and they obviously don't include a democrat in the White House.  The republican contest is locked up so there's really nothing for them to gain by voting for McCain.  It's not like he's telling his fans to do anything illegal. 

yes, but quite unethical.

I suppose keith olbermann can tell his people to attend mccain rallies and simultaneously vomit on the lap of the person next to you in the rally.  not illegal, but certainly destorys the american function at work there.

[JohnnyVegas]

Only problem with Flush's request for Repubs to vote for Clinton is that THEY CAN'T!!!!


This is a fucking primary-each party can ONLY vote for their party.

So the notion that repubs can vote for Clinton are absurd.


Flush must be high again on his erectile disfunction medicine.

[Bodvar]

Only problem with Flush's request for Repubs to vote for Clinton is that THEY CAN'T!!!!


This is a fucking primary-each party can ONLY vote for their party.

So the notion that repubs can vote for Clinton are absurd.


Flush must be high again on his erectile disfunction medicine.

1. Click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Democratic_primary,_2008

2. Scroll to the part where it says: "The Texas presidential primary is held on March 4. It is an open primary, which permits participants to vote for candidates of any party, regardless of the voter's party affiliation."

3. Commit suicide

[G o a t b o y]

Wow.  Scumbag.  Corrupting the entire democratic process and casting doubt upon the legitimacy of our American voting process, just to damage the other party.

Scumbag.  I listen to Rush now and then for differing views.  He's a scumbag.

Actually, I did exactly that.  We have open primaries in Texas...  you don't register as a member of one party or another.  I always vote Republican in the general election, but in primary voting I have the choice of voting in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Since the Republican race is already decided I voted in the Democratic primary instead for Hillary, since I think she'd be the weaker of the two candidates against McCain.  This is perfectly legal and above-boards.  If anyone doesn't like it, they can change the election laws here. Until they do, nothing wrong with it... just a citizen exercising his right to vote.

[G o a t b o y]

Only problem with Flush's request for Repubs to vote for Clinton is that THEY CAN'T!!!!


This is a fucking primary-each party can ONLY vote for their party.

So the notion that repubs can vote for Clinton are absurd.


Flush must be high again on his erectile disfunction medicine.

Wrong.

Texas has an open primary.  When you register to vote, you don't declare a party affiliation like you do in most states.  During primary season, you can choose to vote in either primary (but not both).

[JohnnyVegas]

1. Click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Democratic_primary,_2008

2. Scroll to the part where it says: "The Texas presidential primary is held on March 4. It is an open primary, which permits participants to vote for candidates of any party, regardless of the voter's party affiliation."

3. Commit suicide

Oh oh, I should have known old TX would have a backwards ass voting system.

I mean this is the same state that gave us our current President, and he has not worked out so good.

My bad.  

Still Flush is a douche bag!   Hope this helps.

[G o a t b o y]

Oh oh, I should have known old TX would have a backwards ass voting system.

Actually, 17 states have open primaries or caucuses, some of which are your "blue states".

[240 is Back]

things won't be all that much different, no matter which candidate wins.

[mrfixit]

Oh oh, I should have known old TX would have a backwards ass voting system.

I mean this is the same state that gave us our current President, and he has not worked out so good.

My bad.   

Still Flush is a douche bag!  Hope this helps.

Wow brutal self owning! I lol'd irl!

[G o a t b o y]

things won't be all that much different, no matter which candidate wins.

When it comes to the big picture items, you're correct, but each party does have fringe elements that they have to throw the occasional bone to, and the Dems' constituency groups annoy me more than the GOP's.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Actually, I did exactly that.  We have open primaries in Texas...  you don't register as a member of one party or another.  I always vote Republican in the general election, but in primary voting I have the choice of voting in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Since the Republican race is already decided I voted in the Democratic primary instead for Hillary, since I think she'd be the weaker of the two candidates against McCain.  This is perfectly legal and above-boards.  If anyone doesn't like it, they can change the election laws here. Until they do, nothing wrong with it... just a citizen exercising his right to vote.

you son of a bitch.

[JohnnyVegas]

Actually, 17 states have open primaries or caucuses, some of which are your "blue states".

Glad I am no longer a democrat.

Lou Dobbs independant all the way now baby!!!

When it comes to the big picture items, you're correct, but each party does have fringe elements that they have to throw the occasional bone to, and the Dems' constituency groups annoy me more than the GOP's.

Exactly!

That is why you should register as an independant.

I think the MAJORITY of voters today cannot relate to EITHER major party.

This country has gotten so fucked up the last 20 years it gets me sick.

It seems Repubs are in the pocket of Big Business, and the Dems are in the pocket of public employee unions (at least in CA, home to the $200K per year HS educated FF, cop and prison guard).

Sick of both parties.

[240 is Back]

$12 bil spent this week in iraq.

this was done to preserve our way of life and ensure we keep getting oil we need.

Lots of people complain about the war... very few would live in a hut to end it.

However, despite the lies and corruption, it's done for our greater good, i do believe that.  Cheney spent his life before 2000 devoted to improving US strength.  I think he's doing it now, but something like taking another country's oil isn't something you brag about, so they sold the WMD lie.  Most of us against the war are just more mad about being lied to.

[Tre]

Wow.  Scumbag.  Corrupting the entire democratic process and casting doubt upon the legitimacy of our American voting process, just to damage the other party.

Are you suggesting that the DNC hasn't already done that?? 

Of course he wants Clinton as the nominee - it will guarantee victory for the GOP in November. 

I'm so pissed off that I want both parties blown up so that we good Americans can take our goddamn country back from the idiots controlling the Democratic and Republican parties.

[MisterMagoo]

when someone attempts to sabotage the other primary, they're implicitly saying that their candidate can't win on his or her own merits, so they need to try and screw up the OTHER side.

thanks for reinforcing mccain's weakness as a candidate, Rush and the dittoheads! 

[SirTraps]

you son of a bitch.

GOATBOY IS UNAMERICAN

[Lurker79]

Rush Limbaugh = All drugs.

[haider]

Actually, I did exactly that.  We have open primaries in Texas...  you don't register as a member of one party or another.  I always vote Republican in the general election, but in primary voting I have the choice of voting in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Since the Republican race is already decided I voted in the Democratic primary instead for Hillary, since I think she'd be the weaker of the two candidates against McCain.  This is perfectly legal and above-boards.  If anyone doesn't like it, they can change the election laws here. Until they do, nothing wrong with it... just a citizen exercising his right to vote.

what a scumbag thing to do bro 

[The Coach]

"I want Obama bloodied politically." - Rush limbaugh.

You should work for CNN Rob...you take things out of context to try to get your liberal point across and then like the many lib media outlets, you only print or write what the idiot liberals want to hear. Let me help you out........Here's the transcript, you obviously didn't listen close enough or you just heard what you wanted to hear.


RUSH: Elmhurst, New York.  This is Eileen.  Hi, Eileen.  Nice to have you here. Yeah, Eileen what's shakin'?

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  I total disagree with this strategy.  You setting up a Clinton-Obama reconciliation ticket.  You're going to get two of the most immoral, unscrupulous Clintons back in unchecked power and we are going to be screwed.

RUSH:  We're already screwed.  What we have to do is limit the being screwed to as small a screwdriver as it can be.  And here.  Here's the thing.  The strategy is not to have these guys win.  They may form a fusion ticket at some point down the road.  Do you understand what the purpose of the strategery is?

CALLER:  Yes.  To keep Clinton in, to keep Clinton in. You think they're going to claw their eyes out.

RUSH:  No, the strategy is... Yes.  The strategy is to continue the chaos in this party.  Look, there's a reason for this.  Our side isn't going to do this.  Obama needs to be bloodied up.  Look, half the country already hates Hillary.  That's good.  But nobody hates Obama yet.  Hillary is going to be the one to have to bloody him up politically because our side isn't going to do it. Mark my words.  It's about winning, folks!
 
 
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RUSH: Look, folks, I understand out there, many of you are worried here about my strategy.  I don't even know if it's going to work.  I don't know how many Republicans tomorrow in Texas, are going to cross over vote for Hillary.  I don't know if it's happening in Ohio, either.  I'm not urging action. It sounds like I'm urging action, but you know I don't give marching orders here.  I'm just thinking aloud and telling you what I think is important to happen here.  If either one of these two get the nomination -- and one of these is going to get it; it's either going to be Barack Obama or Hillary -- they're both ripe targets if we just don't run around and act afraid of them, and if we don't try to steal their voters at the expense of our own.  Anyway, that's for later on down the line.  There's a great piece today in the American Spectator Online, and it's by Mark Hyman, and it's entitled, "'The Coming Brokered Democratic Convention' -- There is only one thing the public can be certain of regarding the Democratic presidential nomination: without a miracle, there will be a brokered convention. Senator Barack Obama was leading Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in the delegate count going into the Super Tuesday II primary elections on March 4. Obama held 1,193 primary delegates to Clinton's 1,038.

"The status of the superdelegates is meaningless because their pledges today may not carry any meaning come the Democratic nominating convention in Denver during the last week of August.  A Democratic candidate needs to reach a minimum of 2,025 delegates to clinch the nomination outright. Clinton will not reach that figure before the last primary election is held in Puerto Rico on June 7. Neither will Obama," says Mr. Hyman. He "needs 832 more delegates to reach the magic number of 2,025. There are only 981 remaining primary delegates that are up for grabs. Three hundred seventy delegates will be decided on March 4 and 611 will be divvied up across 12 primaries between March 8 and June 7. Obama would have to win an astonishing 85% of the remaining 981 delegates in order to claim the Democratic nomination outright. There are no winner-take-all primaries for the Democrats. Obama will never get the needed 832 delegates. He may fall short of reaching 2,025 delegates by as many as 250" delegates, and we're not factoring, again, the Democrat superdelegates, here.

As Mr. Hyman says, "[N]either Obama nor Clinton will tally the needed 2,025 delegates when the primary election season is completed. The pair will have eleven weeks between Puerto Rico's primary election on June 7 and the convening of the Democratic convention on August 25 to persuade superdelegates to support their candidacy. A lot can happen in 11 weeks. There will be horse trading, influence peddling and cajoling. It will be a real knife fight to the end. Layer on top of this real-world events. Everything from the economy, Iraq, terrorism and damaging revelations of the ties between Obama and Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, the land developer currently under federal indictment, could greatly influence the superdelegates' commitments. Still, the only date that really matters for the superdelegates is the day they cast their ballots in late August." Now, let's go to the audio sound bites on this, because now there's talk of redoing the Florida Democrat primary.  And getting some of that talk started is none other than Florida's governor, Charlie Crist.  He was on Late Edition yesterday with Wolf Blitzer.  Blitzer said, "Let's talk about the Democrats first.  One-point-seven million Democrats or so voted in the Democrat primary, but that vote's not going to be counted in your state.  Are you, as the governor, ready to let the Democrats have another primary if necessary to seat those Democrats, those Democrat delegates at the convention in Denver?"

CRIST:  That would be fine with me.  I -- I think it's very important, though, that those delegates are seated.  I'm hopeful that the national Democratic Party, the Democrat National Committee comes to the conclusion it's the right thing to do.  Every vote must count, every vote should count -- and for the Republicans as well. They're not counting half of ours.

RUSH:  Whoa!  So here's Charlie Crist. I think Governor Crist perhaps may be a stealth practitioner of the Limbaugh strategy here.  Do you not think so, Mr. Snerdley?  There is no question Charlie Crist doesn't want this Democrat contest to end.  There's no question that Charlie Crist wants -- and now Howard Dean weighs in.  He was on the same show, and here's Wolf Blitzer.  "You heard Governor Crist just tell me moments ago that he's ready to go ahead, support a redo here in Florida.  Are you ready to accept his offer right now?"

DEAN:  That's a very helpful thing for him to say because money is an issue here.  Look, there's two possibilities.  One is that there would be such a redo as Governor Crist might suggest, and two is that the party would come and have some other alternative that they would try to push with the credentials committee but we're very willing to listen to the people of Florida.

RUSH:  Whoa!  Howard Dean here, throwing gasoline on the fire; opening up the possibility that if Florida pays for it, that they'll have another Democrat primary here!  Now, you might be, "But, Rush, the rules, the rules!" Folks, let me tell you something I learned over the weekend.  This is an important distinction.  In the Democrat Party, there are no rules.  There are just traditions and customs.  There are no rules in a knife fight.  Let's not play Civics 101.  Let's not play junior high school, senior class president election.  There are no rules.  There are traditions. There are customs in the Democrat Party.  What are you talking about, Rush?  Stop and think about it.  If you want to break the rules, talking about, "Hey, you people in Florida, you blew it. You people in Michigan, you blew it. You violated Democrat Party rules."  The party really didn't have any rules. There was a tradition that they bucked. This is a tradition.  They went against the party's request, but now we see that we can't disenfranchise Democrats from two major states in the country. So the tradition that every vote must count -- the custom that delegates from every state will be seated, will now be employed -- with no rules being broken.  You see how easy this is?  I mean, we're talking J. R. Ewing and Sue Ellen here on one side (Hillary is J.R.) and we got Cliff Barnes and his family on the other side. That's Obama.  "Once you take the ethics out of this," as J.R. said once, "the rest is easy. "
 
 
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RUSH:  So, anyway, folks, the bottom line here, according to Mark Hyman, American Spectator Online, all these primaries are just beauty contests, neither one of these two can win the delegates necessary by the end of the campaign season, which is June 7th in Puerto Rico, and then the real fun is going to begin after that.  He says there's no question the Democrats are going to find a way to seat these delegates from Florida and Michigan.  If Hillary has to go to court, she's going to do it.  That's absolutely right.  This is all she's lived for.  All these news stories, who's going to tell Hillary to get out, there's a news story today, who's going to tell Bill to tell Hillary to get out.  They're not going to get out and if she wins one of these two states tomorrow, look out, folks.  The media is starting to get a little tougher on Obama now.  This is going to be fascinating to watch.  I'm telling you, I think this is an excellent point.  And of course all this is good, if you ask me, because it keeps the party full of chaos and tumult.
 
 
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Read the Background Material...
 
• RushLimbaugh.com: Laura Ingraham Interviews Rush on Fox News Channel
• HotAir: Charlie Crist: Gosh Darn it, Hillary's Primary Victory in Florida Should Count
• American Spectator: The Coming Brokered Democratic Convention
• New York Post: Steinem Mocks Mac's POW Ordeal
 

[G o a t b o y]

GOATBOY IS UNAMERICAN

I'm unamerican because I voted for Clinton?


Ummmmm....... okay. 

[bigj2k3]

Men who vote for women as president.  The pussification of America on display for the world to see.

[The Coach]

RUSH: Tony, San Antonio.  You're next in the EIB Network, sir.  Hello.

CALLER:  Yes.

RUSH:  Yeah. Hi, Tony. Are you there?

CALLER:  Yes.  Rush, nice to talk to you.  I just wanted to make a point, Rush, on something you said a looong time ago. Way before any of the candidates were even running, where it was being whispered that Hillary was going to run, you said not to worry. You told us not to worry. You said that people would come out in droves to vote against her, and I kind of think that's what's happening right now.

RUSH:  Yeah, but I didn't expect it to be Democrats coming out to vote.  I thought that would be in the general.

CALLER:  Yeah, nobody did, nobody knew that Democrats were going to come out this strong against Hillary -- and I think that a big part of them voting for Obama are really voting against Hillary.  

RUSH:  Well, I think there are a lot of factors, and that clearly is one.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH:  The Clintons, they've been laboring under -- I guess, I think they've been laboring under -- all kinds of misconceptions.  One of them is that the country loves them and is desperate to have them back.  The second one is the Democrats really, really love 'em and really want 'em back.  The third is that the country really, really loves Bill and wants him back.  And the fourth thing is that the Democrat Party really, really, really loves Bill and wants him back.  And they thought that this was just going to be a cakewalk.  It's obvious that they did, because they weren't prepared for anything after Super Tuesday, didn't have any organization on the ground in any of these states; they had to ramp that up on the fly.  She's an unlikable person, or personality, and the Drive-Bys did do stories on that.  The Drive-Bys, you remember back a year, year and a half ago? The Drive-Bys were doing all these stories about how they were trying to advise her on how to get nicer and how to change her image.  

That's what it was about back then.  Yeah, she did a likability tour. She was doing a likability tour out there. (sigh) Just all of it's been too little, too late, and none of it's been consistent.  I have so many guys on the golf course yesterday tell me, "I don't see how Hillary is still in the race. Did you see her whining and moaning in the debate on Tuesday, how come she's always asked the first question? Wah, wah, wah. 'Why?'" I said, "You guys are misunderstanding that.  That was done on purpose.  That's an appeal to women.  Hillary's trying to make women think that she's being bullied by everybody else in this race, from Russert, to Brian Williams, to Obama.  That's what that was about."  Yeah, it didn't work. You know, it did come across as childish and immature.  But it tells you what Hillary thinks of women.  It worked once up there in New Hampshire.  The Democrats are famous.  Playbook is only so long.  They have to keep recycling all the plays, recycling all the pages.

Jenna in Gulfport, Mississippi. Hi, and welcome to the program.

CALLER: (silence)

RUSH: Jenna, are you there?

CALLER:  Yeah, I'm here.

RUSH:  All right, welcome.  Nice to have you here.  Are we having a problem with our phone system in there today?  Yeah, okay.  Jenna, I'm sorry about that.  Apparently, we got a phone problem.

CALLER:  That's okay.  I can hear you.

RUSH:  Yeah, but I couldn't hear you.

CALLER:  Uh-oh.
 
 
RUSH:  And when you weren't there, it made me look like an idiot, which makes me want to get mad at Snerdley for making me look like an idiot.  It wasn't you that made me look like an idiot because you didn't hear me, either.  It was probably Brian's fault when we get down to the end of the day. But what was it, Jenna, that you called about?

CALLER:  Well, I was a little distressed over the weekend when I saw that you were pushing the -- not that you were telling anyone to do but suggesting perhaps that we try to keep Hillary Clinton in the race, and it just disturbs me to think that she would even have a chance of getting the Democratic nomination.  I just can't stand the thought of it.  I think it's dangerous.

RUSH:  I know, there are a lot of people out there, because these Clintons are like cockroaches, you know. They're the last thing standing after a nuclear blast. Nothing gets rid of them.

CALLER:  (laughter)

RUSH:  No, no. People have that innate fear.  Wouldn't you love to cream Hillary, though?

CALLER:  I would love it to be done in the primaries.

RUSH:  Yeah, I know. You want it done as soon as possible.

CALLER:  Well, but the reason being, if she were to secure the nomination, I wouldn't put it past the dirty dealings of the Clintons for her to wrangle her way into the White House, which is just unthinkable.

RUSH:  Well, why are you so afraid of her?  Look at how ineptly she's campaigning against Obama.  Why is Obama running rings around her?

CALLER:  Well, she --

RUSH:  By the way, why is Obama "thinkable"? Jenna, hang on here.  I don't mean to call you "you people."  Chalk it up to being sick.  
 
 
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RUSH: Back to Jenna in Gulfport, Mississippi.  You have called to chide me about trying to keep Hillary Clinton alive, right?

CALLER:  Not so much chide you.  It just makes me nervous.  (laughter)

RUSH:  Well, do you understand why I'm doing this?

CALLER:  Yes, sir, I do, and --

RUSH:  I want you to tell me. I want to make sure that you have understood, that you've heard what I said and you get it.

CALLER:  Yes.  You would like this to happen to continue the squabbling between the Democrats themselves. Let them tear each other apart rather than leave it on McCain, who we aren't certain that he has the guts to take on Obama.

RUSH:  It's not a question of guts.

CALLER:  Right, not guts, but fortitude.

RUSH:  I just think the Republican Party, as a general rule, is not going to be ripping into Obama for all of the usual defensive and fear-based reasons.

CALLER:  Politically correct reasons.

RUSH:  Oh, yeah, and more.  But don't forget there's another part of my -- you know, another method here to my so-called madness.  I do want to beat these people.  I do want to win.  If Obama were to wrap this up early, what is so -- you know, Hillary is so "unthinkable," I think you used the word, right?

CALLER:  Ugh. Yes.

RUSH:  What is so thinkable about Obama?

CALLER:  There is nothing palatable about socialism, nothing at all.

RUSH:  Well?

CALLER: (giggles) But --

RUSH:  Let me tell you something: We've got a head start beating Hillary because half the country already hates her.  I don't think we're going to be able to gin up those kinds of negative numbers on Obama.

CALLER:  Well, that's a good point.

RUSH:  A lot of people think Obama would be unbeatable.

CALLER:  I've heard that, too.

RUSH:  I am not one of them, by the way.  I don't buy into all this conventional wisdom that comes out ten months, nine months before an election.  There are too many factors that we don't know, things that are going to happen both events news-wise, things in a campaign and so forth, but I think Hillary, we've seen a dry run here.  We've seen a blue plan on how to wipe her out.  Obama's done it! The thing that's going to change is if she were to be the nominee, the press will fall in love with her again.  Right now, they're giving her a little dusting up.  But you have to understand and everybody's going to have to understand: Once the Democrats have a nominee -- and I don't care how bad the fight is, I don't care how long it takes; once they have a nominee -- our nominee is going to be trashed, despised, ripped to shreds by the Drive-By Media.  You can make book on that.  I don't care who the nominee is, it will happen.  Make no mistake.  Jenna, thanks for the call.  I appreciate it.

This is Debra in Houston.  Debra, you're next on the EIB Network.  Hello.
 
 
CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  How are you?