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At the moment I am taking Bromazepam as a sleep aid. I have often heard that the properties of benzos significantly reduce cortisol levels in the body.

Can anyone with genuine knowledge confirm this?
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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 07:58:47 AM »
It may, and it may increase GH levels too but that doesn't mean it's ultimately good for bodybuilding. Why do you ask?

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 08:50:40 AM »
It may, and it may increase GH levels too but that doesn't mean it's ultimately good for bodybuilding. Why do you ask?

It depends on which reference you want to use.  Valium has been considered as a way to treating Cushings disease in animals, but as far as I know, has proven pretty much useless in trials.  It was also considered for treating sex-hormone related hyperadrenalcortisism in ferrets, but didn't work.  Lupron is a much more effective. 

This article has a great reference list.   It also brings up the point that those "reduced cortisol levels", with chronic use, the body will try to compensate and may actually raise cortisol levels. 

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v29/n3/full/1300365a.html


And BTW, its also the first google hit if you type in Bromazepam + cortisol.   ;) 

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 11:04:11 AM »
At the moment I am taking Bromazepam as a sleep aid. I have often heard that the properties of benzos significantly reduce cortisol levels in the body.

Can anyone with genuine knowledge confirm this?

Vet explained it perfectly.

In the short term, benzos will reduce cortisol levels and possibly increase GH levels (like clonidine hcl) but this effect is transitory, not a chronic effect.

Perhaps at the end of a long training cycle when your body is beaten up, use a valium on the weekend and it will be beneficial, but it's not something you'd want to do every night.



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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 11:45:35 AM »
Benzos have addictive properties that many cannot overcome.  In the 80's, when Valium was all the rage, many of the rich and famous ended up in rehab, or they just slept through the decade :P

That being said, when you need sleep, and you are too wired on clen, a half an Ativan does wonders.

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 12:18:40 PM »
It depends on which reference you want to use.  Valium has been considered as a way to treating Cushings disease in animals, but as far as I know, has proven pretty much useless in trials.  It was also considered for treating sex-hormone related hyperadrenalcortisism in ferrets, but didn't work.  Lupron is a much more effective. 

This article has a great reference list.   It also brings up the point that those "reduced cortisol levels", with chronic use, the body will try to compensate and may actually raise cortisol levels. 

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v29/n3/full/1300365a.html


And BTW, its also the first google hit if you type in Bromazepam + cortisol.   ;) 

Yes and even if it did reduce cortisol the question is why would this be beneficial (I suspect Deicide thinks it would). Cortisol is not an evil hormone per se. I don't have the energy to search for info but if Bromazepine and other benzos reduce cortisol acutely they may blunt the morning rise of cortisol which is important (if taken for sleep). Not to mention benzos mess with sleep architecture etc. That's not good for bodybuilding.

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 12:55:43 PM »
Benzos have addictive properties that many cannot overcome.  In the 80's, when Valium was all the rage, many of the rich and famous ended up in rehab, or they just slept through the decade :P

That being said, when you need sleep, and you are too wired on clen, a half an Ativan does wonders.

True but remember that Ativan is a benzo too & a fast acting one too.

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 04:33:31 PM »
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Aug;90(8):4777-83. Epub 2005 May 31.
Effects of dehydroepiandrosterone and alprazolam on hypothalamic-pituitary responses to exercise.
Deuster PA, Faraday MM, Chrousos GP, Poth MA.

MPH, Department of Military and Emergency Medicine, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, 4301 Jones Bridge Road, Bethesda, Maryland 20814-4799, USA. pdeuster@usuhs.mil

CONTEXT: The hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) is restrained by activation of gamma-amino-butyric acid receptors. Alprazolam (APZ) and dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) are purported to be gamma-amino-butyric acid agonists and antagonists, respectively. OBJECTIVE: Our objective was to examine the effects of APZ and DHEA alone and in combination on HPA axis activity. DESIGN: This was a double-blind, crossover, placebo-controlled study. SETTING: The study setting was the general community. PARTICIPANTS: Subjects consisted of 15 men (age, 20-45 yr) with a body mass index of 20-25 kg/m2. INTERVENTIONS: DHEA (100 mg/d) or placebo was given for 4 wk, followed by a 2-wk washout; participants ingested 0.5 mg APZ or placebo 10 and 2 h before high-intensity exercise. OUTCOME MEASURES: We measured basal and exercise-induced ACTH, arginine vasopressin (AVP), cortisol, DHEA, and GH responses. It was hypothesized that DHEA would enhance and APZ would blunt exercise-induced ACTH and cortisol release. Results: DHEA significantly increased the AVP response to exercise (P < 0.01). APZ treatment significantly increased basal GH and blunted plasma cortisol, ACTH, AVP, and DHEA responses to exercise (P < 0.05). DHEA and APZ in combination significantly increased the GH response to exercise (P < 0.01). CONCLUSIONS: DHEA may alter a subset of receptors involved in AVP release. Together DHEA and APZ may up-regulate GH during exercise by blunting a suppressive (HPA axis) and potentiating an excitatory (glutamate receptor) system.

PMID: 15928250 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Psychopharmacology (Berl). 1989;98(3):369-71.
Effects of chronic alprazolam treatment on plasma concentrations of glucocorticoids, thyroid hormones, and testosterone in cardiomyopathic hamsters.
Ottenweller JE, Tapp WN, Natelson BH.

Primate Neuro-Behavioral Unit, VA Medical Center, East Orange, NJ 07019.

In the first of two experiments, young male cardiomyopathic hamsters were injected intraperitoneally twice a day for 29 days with 8 mg alprazolam/kg body weight or saline. Three hours after the same injections on day 30, they were sacrificed and plasma hormone levels were measured. Alprazolam increased cortisol, total glucocorticoid and triiodothyronine levels. It did not affect corticosterone, thyroxine or testosterone levels. The same protocol was used in a second experiment, except the controls received vehicle and a third group was treated with 48 mg diazepam/kg body weight. Alprazolam again increased cortisol and total glucocorticoid levels, but not those of corticosterone. On the other hand, diazepam increased both cortisol and corticosterone levels. These experiments suggest that chronic benzodiazepine treatment can affect adrenocortical function and perhaps some aspects of thyroid function.

PMID: 2501814 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

ScientificWorldJournal. 2006 Jan 17;6:1-11.Click here to read
Neuroregulation of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis in humans: effects of GABA-, mineralocorticoid-, and GH-Secretagogue-receptor modulation.
Giordano R, Pellegrino M, Picu A, Bonelli L, Balbo M, Berardelli R, Lanfranco F, Ghigo E, Arvat E.

Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Turin, Italy.

The hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis exerts a variety of effects at both the central and peripheral level. Its activity is mainly regulated by CRH, AVP, and the glucocorticoid-mediated feedback action. Moreover, many neurotransmitters and neuropeptides influence HPA axis activity by acting at the hypothalamic and/or suprahypothalamic level. Among them, GABA and Growth Hormone Secretagogues (GHS)/GHS-receptor systems have been shown to exert a clear inhibitory and stimulatory effect, respectively, on corticotroph secretion. Alprazolam (ALP), a GABA-A receptor agonist, shows the most marked inhibitory effect on both spontaneous and stimulated HPA axis activity, in agreement with its peculiar efficacy in panic disorders and depression where an HPA axis hyperactivation is generally present. Ghrelin and synthetic GHS possess a marked ACTH/cortisol-releasing effect in humans and the ghrelin/GHS-R system is probably involved in the modulation of the HPA response to stress and nutritional/metabolic variations. The glucocorticoid-mediated negative feedback action is mediated by both glucocorticoid (GR) and mineralocorticoid (MR) receptors activation at the central level, mainly in the hippocampus. In agreement with animal studies, MRs seem to play a crucial role in the maintenance of the circadian ACTH and cortisol rhythm, through the modulation of CRH and AVP release. GABA agonists (mainly ALP), ghrelin, as well as MR agonists/antagonists, may represent good tools to explore the activity of the HPA axis in both physiological conditions and pathological states characterized by an impaired control of the corticotroph function.

PMID: 16432622 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

J Endocrinol Invest. 2002 May;25(5):420-5.
Alprazolam, a benzodiazepine, blunts but does not abolish the ACTH and cortisol response to hexarelin, a GHRP, in obese patients.
Grottoli S, Arvat E, Gauna C, Maccagno B, Ramunni J, Giordano R, Maccario M, Deghenghi R, Ghigo E.

Department of Internal Medicine, University of Torino, Italy.

GH secretagogues (GHS) act on specific receptors at the pituitary and hypothalamic level and possess potent GH-releasing activity but also stimulate prolactin (PRL), ACTH and cortisol (F) secretion. However, hyperactivity of the HPA axis in obesity has been reported. The objective of this study was to clarify the endocrine activity of GHS in obesity. In nine obese patients (obese OB), 9 F, age, (34.8 +/- 3.7 y, body mass index (BMI), 35.0 +/- 2.2 kg/m2; WHR, 0.9 +/- 0.02), 14 controls (normal subjects, NS), 14 F, 30.4 +/- 0.9 y, 20.0 +/- 0.4 kg/m2), we studied the ACTH, F and GH responses to hexarelin (HEX, 2.0 microg/kg), a peptidyl GHS, alone and preceded by alprazolam (ALP, 0.02 mg/kg), and a benzodiazepine which has an inhibitory effect on corticotroph secretion. The HEX-induced ACTH response in OB was higher than that in n.s., but this difference did not attain statistical significance. In n.s. the HEX-induced ACTH response was abolished by ALP (P < 0.03) which, however, only blunted that in OB (P < 0.02). The GH response to HEX in OB was lower (P < 0.02) than that in n.s.. ALP blunted the GH response to HEX in n.s. (P < 0.03) while it did not modify that in OB. The GABAergic activation by alprazolam abolishes the ACTH response to hexarelin in normal subjects, while it only blunts that in obese subjects. Moreover, alprazolam blunts the GH response to hexarelin in normal but not in obese subjects. Thus, obese patients show partial refractoriness to the inhibitory effect of alprazolam on both corticotroph and somatotroph function.

PMID: 10997633 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

J Endocrinol Invest. 2002 Sep;25(8):735-47.
Benzodiazepines and anterior pituitary function.
Arvat E, Giordano R, Grottoli S, Ghigo E.

Department of Internal Medicine, University of Turin, Italy. e.arvat@libero.it

Benzodiazepines (BDZ) are one of the most prescribed classes of drugs because of their marked anxiolytic, anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant and hypnotic effects. The pharmacological actions of BDZ depend on the activation of 2 specific receptors. The central BDZ receptor, present in several areas of the central nervous system (CNS), is a component of the GABA-A receptor, the activation of which increases GABAergic neurotransmission and is followed by remarkable neuroendocrine effects. The peripheral benzodiazepine receptors (PBR), structurally and functionally different from the GABA-A receptor, have been shown in peripheral tissues but also in the CNS, in both neurones and glial cells, and in the pituitary gland. BDZ receptors bind to a family of natural peptides called endozepines, firstly isolated from neurons and glial cells in the brain and then in several peripheral tissues as well. Endozepines modulate several central and peripheral biological activities, including some neuroendocrine functions and synthetic BDZ are likely to mimic them, at least partially. BZD, especially alprazolam (AL), possess a clear inhibitory influence on the activity of the HPA axis in both animals and humans. This effect seems to be mediated at the hypothalamic and/or suprahypothalamic level via suppression of CRH. The strong negative influence of AL on hypothalamicpituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis agrees with its peculiar efficacy in the treatment of panic disorders and depression. BZD have also been shown to increase GH secretion via mechanisms mediated at the hypothalamic or supra-hypothalamic level, though a pituitary action cannot be ruled out. Besides the impact on HPA and somatotrope function, BDZ also significantly affect the secretion of other pituitary hormones, such as gonadotropins and PRL, probably acting through GABAergic mediation in the hypothalamus and/or in the pituitary gland. In all, BDZ are likely to represent a useful tool to investigate GABAergic activity and clarify its role in the neuroendocrine control of anterior pituitary function; their usefulness probably overrides what had been supposed before.

PMID: 12240908 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



MY COMMENTS:

some benzos have this property, namely valium and xanax and seem to exert this effect via CRF antagonism in the hypothalamus which exerts its effects on the anterior hypophysis/adrenal medulla.

they should reduce cortisol levels, however benzos are not the best option for long term sleep aids as you know. Does the trazadone not do enough for you?

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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 05:20:58 PM »
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Aug;90(8):4777-83. Epub 2005 May 31.
Effects of dehydroepiandrosterone and alprazolam on hypothalamic-pituitary responses to exercise.
Deuster PA, Faraday MM, Chrousos GP, Poth MA.

MPH, Department of Military and Emergency Medicine, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, 4301 Jones Bridge Road, Bethesda, Maryland 20814-4799, USA. pdeuster@usuhs.mil

CONTEXT: The hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) is restrained by activation of gamma-amino-butyric acid receptors. Alprazolam (APZ) and dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) are purported to be gamma-amino-butyric acid agonists and antagonists, respectively. OBJECTIVE: Our objective was to examine the effects of APZ and DHEA alone and in combination on HPA axis activity. DESIGN: This was a double-blind, crossover, placebo-controlled study. SETTING: The study setting was the general community. PARTICIPANTS: Subjects consisted of 15 men (age, 20-45 yr) with a body mass index of 20-25 kg/m2. INTERVENTIONS: DHEA (100 mg/d) or placebo was given for 4 wk, followed by a 2-wk washout; participants ingested 0.5 mg APZ or placebo 10 and 2 h before high-intensity exercise. OUTCOME MEASURES: We measured basal and exercise-induced ACTH, arginine vasopressin (AVP), cortisol, DHEA, and GH responses. It was hypothesized that DHEA would enhance and APZ would blunt exercise-induced ACTH and cortisol release. Results: DHEA significantly increased the AVP response to exercise (P < 0.01). APZ treatment significantly increased basal GH and blunted plasma cortisol, ACTH, AVP, and DHEA responses to exercise (P < 0.05). DHEA and APZ in combination significantly increased the GH response to exercise (P < 0.01). CONCLUSIONS: DHEA may alter a subset of receptors involved in AVP release. Together DHEA and APZ may up-regulate GH during exercise by blunting a suppressive (HPA axis) and potentiating an excitatory (glutamate receptor) system.

PMID: 15928250 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Psychopharmacology (Berl). 1989;98(3):369-71.
Effects of chronic alprazolam treatment on plasma concentrations of glucocorticoids, thyroid hormones, and testosterone in cardiomyopathic hamsters.
Ottenweller JE, Tapp WN, Natelson BH.

Primate Neuro-Behavioral Unit, VA Medical Center, East Orange, NJ 07019.

In the first of two experiments, young male cardiomyopathic hamsters were injected intraperitoneally twice a day for 29 days with 8 mg alprazolam/kg body weight or saline. Three hours after the same injections on day 30, they were sacrificed and plasma hormone levels were measured. Alprazolam increased cortisol, total glucocorticoid and triiodothyronine levels. It did not affect corticosterone, thyroxine or testosterone levels. The same protocol was used in a second experiment, except the controls received vehicle and a third group was treated with 48 mg diazepam/kg body weight. Alprazolam again increased cortisol and total glucocorticoid levels, but not those of corticosterone. On the other hand, diazepam increased both cortisol and corticosterone levels. These experiments suggest that chronic benzodiazepine treatment can affect adrenocortical function and perhaps some aspects of thyroid function.

PMID: 2501814 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

ScientificWorldJournal. 2006 Jan 17;6:1-11.Click here to read
Neuroregulation of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis in humans: effects of GABA-, mineralocorticoid-, and GH-Secretagogue-receptor modulation.
Giordano R, Pellegrino M, Picu A, Bonelli L, Balbo M, Berardelli R, Lanfranco F, Ghigo E, Arvat E.

Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Turin, Italy.

The hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis exerts a variety of effects at both the central and peripheral level. Its activity is mainly regulated by CRH, AVP, and the glucocorticoid-mediated feedback action. Moreover, many neurotransmitters and neuropeptides influence HPA axis activity by acting at the hypothalamic and/or suprahypothalamic level. Among them, GABA and Growth Hormone Secretagogues (GHS)/GHS-receptor systems have been shown to exert a clear inhibitory and stimulatory effect, respectively, on corticotroph secretion. Alprazolam (ALP), a GABA-A receptor agonist, shows the most marked inhibitory effect on both spontaneous and stimulated HPA axis activity, in agreement with its peculiar efficacy in panic disorders and depression where an HPA axis hyperactivation is generally present. Ghrelin and synthetic GHS possess a marked ACTH/cortisol-releasing effect in humans and the ghrelin/GHS-R system is probably involved in the modulation of the HPA response to stress and nutritional/metabolic variations. The glucocorticoid-mediated negative feedback action is mediated by both glucocorticoid (GR) and mineralocorticoid (MR) receptors activation at the central level, mainly in the hippocampus. In agreement with animal studies, MRs seem to play a crucial role in the maintenance of the circadian ACTH and cortisol rhythm, through the modulation of CRH and AVP release. GABA agonists (mainly ALP), ghrelin, as well as MR agonists/antagonists, may represent good tools to explore the activity of the HPA axis in both physiological conditions and pathological states characterized by an impaired control of the corticotroph function.

PMID: 16432622 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

J Endocrinol Invest. 2002 May;25(5):420-5.
Alprazolam, a benzodiazepine, blunts but does not abolish the ACTH and cortisol response to hexarelin, a GHRP, in obese patients.
Grottoli S, Arvat E, Gauna C, Maccagno B, Ramunni J, Giordano R, Maccario M, Deghenghi R, Ghigo E.

Department of Internal Medicine, University of Torino, Italy.

GH secretagogues (GHS) act on specific receptors at the pituitary and hypothalamic level and possess potent GH-releasing activity but also stimulate prolactin (PRL), ACTH and cortisol (F) secretion. However, hyperactivity of the HPA axis in obesity has been reported. The objective of this study was to clarify the endocrine activity of GHS in obesity. In nine obese patients (obese OB), 9 F, age, (34.8 +/- 3.7 y, body mass index (BMI), 35.0 +/- 2.2 kg/m2; WHR, 0.9 +/- 0.02), 14 controls (normal subjects, NS), 14 F, 30.4 +/- 0.9 y, 20.0 +/- 0.4 kg/m2), we studied the ACTH, F and GH responses to hexarelin (HEX, 2.0 microg/kg), a peptidyl GHS, alone and preceded by alprazolam (ALP, 0.02 mg/kg), and a benzodiazepine which has an inhibitory effect on corticotroph secretion. The HEX-induced ACTH response in OB was higher than that in n.s., but this difference did not attain statistical significance. In n.s. the HEX-induced ACTH response was abolished by ALP (P < 0.03) which, however, only blunted that in OB (P < 0.02). The GH response to HEX in OB was lower (P < 0.02) than that in n.s.. ALP blunted the GH response to HEX in n.s. (P < 0.03) while it did not modify that in OB. The GABAergic activation by alprazolam abolishes the ACTH response to hexarelin in normal subjects, while it only blunts that in obese subjects. Moreover, alprazolam blunts the GH response to hexarelin in normal but not in obese subjects. Thus, obese patients show partial refractoriness to the inhibitory effect of alprazolam on both corticotroph and somatotroph function.

PMID: 10997633 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

J Endocrinol Invest. 2002 Sep;25(8):735-47.
Benzodiazepines and anterior pituitary function.
Arvat E, Giordano R, Grottoli S, Ghigo E.

Department of Internal Medicine, University of Turin, Italy. e.arvat@libero.it

Benzodiazepines (BDZ) are one of the most prescribed classes of drugs because of their marked anxiolytic, anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant and hypnotic effects. The pharmacological actions of BDZ depend on the activation of 2 specific receptors. The central BDZ receptor, present in several areas of the central nervous system (CNS), is a component of the GABA-A receptor, the activation of which increases GABAergic neurotransmission and is followed by remarkable neuroendocrine effects. The peripheral benzodiazepine receptors (PBR), structurally and functionally different from the GABA-A receptor, have been shown in peripheral tissues but also in the CNS, in both neurones and glial cells, and in the pituitary gland. BDZ receptors bind to a family of natural peptides called endozepines, firstly isolated from neurons and glial cells in the brain and then in several peripheral tissues as well. Endozepines modulate several central and peripheral biological activities, including some neuroendocrine functions and synthetic BDZ are likely to mimic them, at least partially. BZD, especially alprazolam (AL), possess a clear inhibitory influence on the activity of the HPA axis in both animals and humans. This effect seems to be mediated at the hypothalamic and/or suprahypothalamic level via suppression of CRH. The strong negative influence of AL on hypothalamicpituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis agrees with its peculiar efficacy in the treatment of panic disorders and depression. BZD have also been shown to increase GH secretion via mechanisms mediated at the hypothalamic or supra-hypothalamic level, though a pituitary action cannot be ruled out. Besides the impact on HPA and somatotrope function, BDZ also significantly affect the secretion of other pituitary hormones, such as gonadotropins and PRL, probably acting through GABAergic mediation in the hypothalamus and/or in the pituitary gland. In all, BDZ are likely to represent a useful tool to investigate GABAergic activity and clarify its role in the neuroendocrine control of anterior pituitary function; their usefulness probably overrides what had been supposed before.

PMID: 12240908 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



MY COMMENTS:

some benzos have this property, namely valium and xanax and seem to exert this effect via CRF antagonism in the hypothalamus which exerts its effects on the anterior hypophysis/adrenal medulla.

they should reduce cortisol levels, however benzos are not the best option for long term sleep aids as you know. Does the trazadone not do enough for you?

Unsmoke, as you know my situation better than most, the question was more one of interest than anything else. I am not trying to use the meds to gain some sort of bbing edge or what have you; I am using them for sleep. I was just curious about the cortisol issue because I am dieting now. The doctor says it's best to combine the two meds, since the benzo compromises slow wave sleep and the trazodone is being used to offset that.
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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 05:22:35 PM »
Yes and even if it did reduce cortisol the question is why would this be beneficial (I suspect Deicide thinks it would). Cortisol is not an evil hormone per se. I don't have the energy to search for info but if Bromazepine and other benzos reduce cortisol acutely they may blunt the morning rise of cortisol which is important (if taken for sleep). Not to mention benzos mess with sleep architecture etc. That's not good for bodybuilding.

Elevated cortisol levels can severely impair sleep at night. One of the reasons I asked actually.
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Re: Does medication of the benzodiazepine family reduce cortisol levels?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 02:37:25 PM »
Unsmoke, as you know my situation better than most, the question was more one of interest than anything else. I am not trying to use the meds to gain some sort of bbing edge or what have you; I am using them for sleep. I was just curious about the cortisol issue because I am dieting now. The doctor says it's best to combine the two meds, since the benzo compromises slow wave sleep and the trazodone is being used to offset that.

You must have an understanding Doc.

Does he prescribe AAS for you as well?   ;D


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