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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2008, 05:02:19 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 13, 2008, 03:08:47 PM
I never even knew he had a book called Fantastic!

What page??? Do you know??

Yes. It's by Laurence Leamer. I have the book, and flipped through the portion pertaining to the 1980 Mr. Olympia, and found nothing about what Pellius is talking about.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2008, 05:27:24 PM »
Quote from: Pollux on March 13, 2008, 05:02:19 PM
Yes. It's by Laurence Leamer. I have the book, and flipped through the portion pertaining to the 1980 Mr. Olympia, and found nothing about what Pellius is talking about.

I tend to buy the Frank Zane reason above anything else, including  Mike Mentzer.

I mean Frank humiliated Arnold on National TV, and Arnold was pissed.

I can see Arnold in my head right now blowing a gasket and thinking "I am going in the O next year and I am going to teach a lesson to Frank Zane"...that is his mentality-he hates to be beaten, even over a stupid interview comment from Zane.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2008, 05:28:52 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 13, 2008, 05:27:24 PM
I tend to buy the Frank Zane reason above anything else, including  Mike Mentzer.

I mean Frank humiliated Arnold on National TV, and Arnold was pissed.

I can see Arnold in my head right now blowing a gasket and thinking "I am going in the O next year and I am going to teach a lesson to Frank Zane"...that is his mentality-he hates to be beaten, even over a stupid interview comment from Zane.

Funny you mentioned that because that is EXACTLY what is stated in the book.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2008, 05:41:28 PM »
Frank Zane is cocky. No one can doubt that. Arnold was the king and I guess he wasn't pleased that such a small guy was winning the Olympia year after year.

If you look at some of the photos you will see that Arnold dwarfs Frank in chest, calves and arms. Frank places 3rd and perhaps was lucky because he was the reigning champion that year.

There is no way that Arnold would have felt that Frank was his equal on the posing platform or in the gym.

Look at the silly angles taken by the pro photographers. Since the seats were sold long before they arrived they didn't have the best positions available and were under, on the side, or even behind the competitors! Lucky for John Balik that I got him a seat for the finals beside me in the middle of the hall.

Here is the photo I took of Mike. Looked great here and Ironman used it for their cover. I photoshopped the image in the second photo. I will have to get access to the original slides to show even more detail, plus the other competitors.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2008, 05:46:01 PM »
Quote from: Vince Basile on March 13, 2008, 05:41:28 PM
Frank Zane is cocky. No one can doubt that. Arnold was the king and I guess he wasn't pleased that such a small guy was winning the Olympia year after year.

If you look at some of the photos you will see that Arnold dwarfs Frank in chest, calves and arms. Frank places 3rd and perhaps was lucky because he was the reigning champion that year.

There is no way that Arnold would have felt that Frank was his equal on the posing platform or in the gym.

Look at the silly angles taken by the pro photographers. Since the seats were sold long before they arrived they didn't have the best positions available and were under, on the side, or even behind the competitors! Lucky for John Balik that I got him a seat for the finals beside me in the middle of the hall.

You need to post some photos sometime soon, are they color by the way?
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #130 on: March 13, 2008, 05:54:22 PM »
they're drawings in crayons
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #131 on: March 13, 2008, 09:33:11 PM »
Quote from: knny187 on March 13, 2008, 05:54:22 PM
they're drawings in crayons

Bringing the funny!  ;D
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2008, 11:29:45 PM »
Quote from: hipolito mejia on March 13, 2008, 11:53:44 AM
Two of the biggest back that night!!!




The best calves Arnold and Chris!!!



Sorry dude, but Platz had the best calves that night and every other night ;)
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2008, 11:34:05 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 13, 2008, 03:08:47 PM
I never even knew he had a book called Fantastic!

What page??? Do you know??


Roger Walker looked great, and in this pic he goes toe to toe with Arnold on size;



Dennis Tinnero was also around 240 pounds, so Arnold was not the heaviest man that night. Arnold was said to be between 212 and 220 pounds that night. A shadow of his former 230-250 pound self.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2008, 07:08:26 AM »
Quote from: Danimal77 on March 13, 2008, 11:34:05 PM
Dennis Tinnero was also around 240 pounds, so Arnold was not the heaviest man that night. Arnold was said to be between 212 and 220 pounds that night. A shadow of his former 230-250 pound self.


You mean this Arnold :o
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2008, 07:09:45 AM »
Damn...no one can touch that!
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2008, 07:37:24 AM »
Fuckin' untouchable!  :o



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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2008, 07:41:16 AM »
As much as we like Arnold let's stick to the topic at hand....Mr.O 1980
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2008, 07:50:17 AM »
Quote from: hipolito mejia on March 14, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
As much as we like Arnold lete's stick to the topic at hand....Mr.O 1980

We've established that. Now we're moving on to how GREAT he is.  ;D
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2008, 09:46:49 AM »
Dennis looked watery to me...very smooth
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2008, 06:28:45 PM »
Do'n't agree about Dennis. He was overlooked.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2008, 07:00:50 PM »
Arnie is the best bodybuilder ever !!!
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2008, 07:03:46 PM »
Imagine walking around looking like that:
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2008, 07:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Moosejay on March 10, 2008, 11:49:27 PM
True.

In Arnold's rush to get away from the hoard of reporters and everyone else, Maria had lagged behind, chatting with ravenous reporters,,,,"Maria, you stupid bitch, let's get the fuck out of here..."

Gaines had marvelled at the fact that here was Arnold, who, some years earlier, did not have two schillings to rub together, calling a relative of one of the most powerful families in the world a 'stupid bitch'
he is arnold  8) she was lucky he even gave her the time of day  8)

he is numero uno  8)
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2008, 07:57:18 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyVegas on March 13, 2008, 05:27:24 PM
I tend to buy the Frank Zane reason above anything else, including  Mike Mentzer.

I mean Frank humiliated Arnold on National TV, and Arnold was pissed.

I can see Arnold in my head right now blowing a gasket and thinking "I am going in the O next year and I am going to teach a lesson to Frank Zane"...that is his mentality-he hates to be beaten, even over a stupid interview comment from Zane.

that probably went through his head again when dexter tried to own him at the arnold. when arnold said he knew dex was a great champ that practiced posing for hours each day, to which dex replied - i never pose, i'm too lazy. arnold looked very angry, but got his own back when he said dex managed to built his body by taking a few pills ;D
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2008, 08:49:57 PM »
Quote from: m8 on March 14, 2008, 07:03:46 PM
Imagine walking around looking like that:

:o The man is god like  8)
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #146 on: March 15, 2008, 01:47:04 AM »
Quote from: Fatpanda on March 14, 2008, 07:57:18 PM
that probably went through his head again when dexter tried to own him at the arnold. when arnold said he knew dex was a great champ that practiced posing for hours each day, to which dex replied - i never pose, i'm too lazy. arnold looked very angry, but got his own back when he said dex managed to built his body by taking a few pills ;D

did he say that? How disingenuous..and dumb to say to Arnold
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #147 on: March 15, 2008, 02:13:27 AM »
  Sometimes I ask myself how much of Arnold's mythical status in bodybuilding is the result of his physique, and how much of it is the result of his charisma.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #148 on: March 15, 2008, 04:17:50 AM »
Quote from: CigaretteMan on March 15, 2008, 02:13:27 AM
  Sometimes I ask myself how much of Arnold's mythical status in bodybuilding is the result of his physique, and how much of it is the is result of his charisma.

i'd say it's a combination of his physique, hollywood career, bbing career and charisma.
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Re: Opinions on Arnold's showing at the 1980 Mr. O
« Reply #149 on: March 15, 2008, 04:36:10 AM »
Quote from: CigaretteMan on March 15, 2008, 02:13:27 AM
  Sometimes I ask myself how much of Arnold's mythical status in bodybuilding is the result of his physique, and how much of it is the is result of his charisma.

I think we're mesmerized more by his physique rather than his charisma. Don't get me wrong, his charisma is fantastic, but I think most of us train and are inspired by the physique rather than the charisma, no?
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