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Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« on: March 13, 2008, 01:08:15 AM »
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Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job  

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:30 PM

NEW YORK -- Eliot Spitzer probably doesn't need to get a day job when he leaves the governor's office next week.

The scion of a wealthy Manhattan real estate developer, Spitzer is a millionaire who could easily live off his share of his father's real estate business.

But that doesn't mean there won't be financial wrinkles ahead for Spitzer, who announced his resignation Wednesday after becoming ensnared in a prostitution scandal.

If he were to lose his law license, his ability to return to private law practice might be compromised. There's also the possibility that his wife could divorce her cheating husband and walk away with a chunk of the family fortune.

"Any judge who is going to decide this case is going to bend over backward to give her a break, considering what she's been through," said Albert Momjian, a prominent Philadelphia divorce lawyer.

Silda Wall Spitzer gave up a lucrative career in corporate law in 1994, the year that her husband made his first run for public office. Since then, she has worked unpaid jobs in philanthropy and founded a charity called Children for Children.

Spitzer's fall may have one indirect financial benefit. He will probably have to give up what appears to be his most expensive vice: high-priced prostitutes.

Before news broke that Spitzer had shelled out $4,300 to a call girl the night before Valentine's Day, the governor's Mr. Clean image extended to his spending, too.

The governor's staffers always boasted that their millionaire boss was a frugal guy who owned only a few pairs of shoes and drove a minivan.

"He was certainly not free with the dollars. He was very, very careful," said Hank Sheinkopf, a New York political consultant who worked on Spitzer's first two campaigns. "This is not the kind of guy who would take $50,000 out of his own bank account one weekend and blow it in Atlantic City."

That reputation only added to the surprise when an FBI wiretap recorded Spitzer arranging thousands of dollars in payments to an escort service. A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that Spitzer may have spent as much as $80,000 on call girls over several years.

Spitzer could afford it. He reported $1.9 million in income to the IRS in 2006, according to his last publicly available tax return.

Not including last year, his earnings have been $14.9 million since 1998, and that total only hints at his family's wealth. His father, Bernard Spitzer, is said to be worth at least $500 million.

Spitzer's tax returns show that a majority of his income comes from rents collected on apartments and shops owned by the family. As governor, he earned $179,000 a year.

After years of spending weekends in a modest, rented home in Colombia County, the Spitzers recently paid $4 million to buy the entire 160-acre property.

The family's main residence continues to be a luxurious Fifth Avenue apartment in a tower built by his father in 1968. Spitzer lives there rent-free, courtesy of his father, who owns at least 10 such apartment towers.

When his three children were younger, Spitzer shelled out nearly $50,000 a year for nannies. Now the kids attend the Horace Mann School, where tuition exceeds $29,000 per student _ nearly $100,000 in education expenses alone.

Spitzer and his wife have also given generously to charity, donating $474,509 between 2000 and 2006.

All of those spending habits pale in comparison to what Spitzer spent on politics: He financed his losing 1994 and winning 1998 campaigns for state attorney general with millions of dollars in personal loans. Much of that debt was retired when the governor sold his share of a family owned apartment building back to his father.

If there is a divorce, Silda Spitzer would likely be entitled to half of whatever assets the family acquired during their 20-year marriage _ although discussion of a split may be premature.

Silda stood next to her husband when he announced his resignation Wednesday and some observers said they believe the marriage may survive.

"She has grounds for 50 different divorces here," said Raoul Felder, a divorce lawyer and state judicial board chairman who lived in Spitzer's apartment building for 19 years, and later feuded with the governor over an off-color book he co-wrote with the comic Jackie Mason.

"But will she stick? I think she will," Felder said. "She's stood by him so far."
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/spitzer_money/2008/03/12/79913.html

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 06:01:03 AM »
Does anyone know why this information was used against him?

It is my understanding that the agency involved was being investigated for money laundering, ...and as such I can see where their lines might be tapped, ...but if that's the case, doesn't a wiretap have to have certain parameters, and information collected be used specifically for that purpose?  Or does that only apply to search warrants ie: you have a warrant to search for something specific like stolen vehicle, & seize only that specific item, ...not read through a man's diary etc, ...or has the Patriot Act obliterated all that? Any lawyers in the house?
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 06:18:32 AM »
Does anyone know why this information was used against him?

 ::) maybe because it's ILLEGAL , get real it's an impeachable offense , so you think it could be "ignored" due to it's "vague" connection to an ongoing investigation


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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 07:11:49 AM »
::) maybe because it's ILLEGAL , get real it's an impeachable offense , so you think it could be "ignored" due to it's "vague" connection to an ongoing investigation


So are treason, lying to congress & the people, war-profiteering, subversive attempts to dismantle & destroy the constitution, and complete dereliction of duty, ...far more serious illegal and impeachable offenses, ...with far graver consequences for more IMO, but we've largely seen these ignored. To suspect a pattern of more of the same is hardly unrealistic. What's unrealistic IMO is anyone thinking a politician goes down for his crimes. The reality is, his crimes are discovered, and if not concealed, certainly ignored, until such time that his enemies decide to expediantly dispose of him. That's real!
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 07:25:42 AM »
So are treason, lying to congress & the people, war-profiteering, subversive attempts to dismantle & destroy the constitution, and complete dereliction of duty, ...far more serious illegal and impeachable offenses, ...with far graver consequences for more IMO, but we've largely seen these ignored. To suspect a pattern of more of the same is hardly unrealistic. What's unrealistic IMO is anyone thinking a politician goes down for his crimes. The reality is, his crimes are discovered, and if not concealed, certainly ignored, until such time that his enemies decide to expediantly dispose of him. That's real!

Agreed.

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 07:36:46 AM »
So are treason, lying to congress & the people, war-profiteering, subversive attempts to dismantle & destroy the constitution, and complete dereliction of duty, ...far more serious illegal and impeachable offenses, ...with far graver consequences for more IMO, but we've largely seen these ignored. To suspect a pattern of more of the same is hardly unrealistic. What's unrealistic IMO is anyone thinking a politician goes down for his crimes. The reality is, his crimes are discovered, and if not concealed, certainly ignored, until such time that his enemies decide to expediantly dispose of him. That's real!

so you think people knew of all this and just now for some reason decided to expose it and thus him ?

your thought processes are bizarre to me , you're saying that this event isn't serious enough to warrant any action or consequence because all he did was screw a hooker ?

This whole concept of degrees of disgrace is retarded , wrong is wrong , when the friggin' world grasps that concept we won't have politicians , teachers, priests , or family members having SEX unless it's with a consenting partner who wants it and the SEX has no ill effect on anyone else

as far as all of the other issues you mentioned , I agree they are wrong also but why should there be any comparison made ? Spitzer isn't on the fire for those issues is he ?

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 07:38:06 AM »
yeah, but he wired money over state lines.

And, they finally brought heat on him - he got reported - after he asked that his name be removed from some wiretap and money list.  He knew it was coming down and tampered with investigations to keep his own name out of it.  Big no-no there!

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 08:01:59 AM »
I don't care whether Mr. Spitzer will need a new job or not.

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 08:07:51 AM »
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So are treason, lying to congress & the people, war-profiteering, subversive attempts to dismantle & destroy the constitution, and complete dereliction of duty, ...far more serious illegal and impeachable offenses, ...with far graver consequences for more IMO, but we've largely seen these ignored. To suspect a pattern of more of the same is hardly unrealistic. What's unrealistic IMO is anyone thinking a politician goes down for his crimes. The reality is, his crimes are discovered, and if not concealed, certainly ignored, until such time that his enemies decide to expediantly dispose of him. That's real!


one little problem  with your post...   :o

 It wasn't too long ago, that Spitzer was taking down prostitution rings and saying "the johns are just as guilty" for the television cameras and the cable news shows.  Seems like it was against the law then ! ! !

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 10:36:48 AM »
So are treason, lying to congress & the people, war-profiteering, subversive attempts to dismantle & destroy the constitution, and complete dereliction of duty, ...far more serious illegal and impeachable offenses, ...with far graver consequences for more IMO, but we've largely seen these ignored. To suspect a pattern of more of the same is hardly unrealistic. What's unrealistic IMO is anyone thinking a politician goes down for his crimes. The reality is, his crimes are discovered, and if not concealed, certainly ignored, until such time that his enemies decide to expediantly dispose of him. That's real!
You're a smart person.  :)

The bottom line with Spitzer is that he created many enemies who sought to bring him down due to his self-righteous zeal as Attorney General.
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 01:38:40 PM »
bottom line IMO is


Spitzer hired a hooker = illegal
he knew it when he spouted his rhetoric

his enemies didn't "get it up" for him , call the hooker and place her under or on top of him  :-\

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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 04:08:05 PM »
so you think people knew of all this and just now for some reason decided to expose it and thus him ?

It was reported that he had been using call girls for the past decade. I'd say that in 10 yrs, someone knew who he was.

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your thought processes are bizarre to me , you're saying that this event isn't serious enough to warrant any action or consequence because all he did was screw a hooker ?

Probably because you are not corrctly understanding my thought processes.

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This whole concept of degrees of disgrace is retarded , wrong is wrong , when the friggin' world grasps that concept we won't have politicians , teachers, priests , or family members having SEX unless it's with a consenting partner who wants it and the SEX has no ill effect on anyone else

I don't disagree he was a hypocrit, however, I do not equate his actions with the rape of a child or sexual harassment. Infact, it looks to me like his ecapades meet your definition above ie: ""With a consenting partner who wants it and the SEX has no ill effect on anyone else". It looks to me like that was very much the case here. It was the revelation of the sex that's having the repercussions.
 

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as far as all of the other issues you mentioned , I agree they are wrong also but why should there be any comparison made ? Spitzer isn't on the fire for those issues is he ?

Nope, he's in the line of fire for getting some extra marital nookie.
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 04:09:09 PM »
yeah, but he wired money over state lines.

And, they finally brought heat on him - he got reported - after he asked that his name be removed from some wiretap and money list.  He knew it was coming down and tampered with investigations to keep his own name out of it.  Big no-no there!

Oooh, tsk tsk. That is very bad.
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 04:23:04 PM »
you are not corrctly understanding my thought processes.

don't assume I can't , you should be clear

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I don't disagree he was a hypocrit, however, I do not equate his actions with the rape of a child or sexual harassment. Infact, it looks to me like his ecapades meet your definition above ie: ""With a consenting partner who wants it and the SEX has no ill effect on anyone else". It looks to me like that was very much the case here. It was the revelation of the sex that's having the repercussions.

ummmmm NO , your interpretation is incorrect , the sex is OBVIOUSLY causing the effect , BUT FOR the sex there would be no revelation
 

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Nope, he's in the line of fire for getting some extra marital nookie.

and it was with a hooker which is illegal          ::)         he coulda boinked Mary next door




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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2008, 04:24:29 PM »
          ::)         he coulda boinked Mary next door





Yeah, I'm sure that was the better alternative.












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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2008, 04:24:56 PM »
bottom line IMO is


Spitzer hired a hooker = illegal
he knew it when he spouted his rhetoric

his enemies didn't "get it up" for him , call the hooker and place her under or on top of him  :-\

That's not quite the bottom line IMO. I've been doing a little investigating since this story broke. Truth be told, I'd never even heard of the guy until I saw his press conference announcing his resignation. I thought Pataki was still gov.  :-[. So here's how I see it.

Yes, Spitzer hired a hooker = illegal. There are plenty of things that are illegal and should not be, ...at least certainly are not enforced. I don't see police officers in Boston arresting men for kissing their wives on the lips. Another law on the books. Nor do I see police officers arresting men for sitting on the same park bench as a woman, ...another archaic law on the books that shouldn't be (At least not in North America anyway)

Yes, he knew what he was up to when he spouted his rhetoric = hypocritical

There's far more to it than that however. If every politician was skewered & turfed out of office because they had a mistress or made use of a call girl, the halls of power throughout the world would be pretty empty.

His enemies DID "get it up" for him. They didn't call the hooker and place her under or on top of him,
...but they sure "got it up for him" in a big way. He was on a crusade to clean up the corruption on Wall Street.

This was the same man who refused a campaign contribution by Epstein... the same West Palm Beach multi-millionaire with a penchant for hiring underage prostitutes.

His crusading made many enemies, ...and when you couple that with his hypocrisy = very poor judgement, and a sure-fire recipe for a quick and precipitous drop off the end of a cliff!

The bottom line is, ...he went down not because what he did was illegal. He went down because he was a fool!
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2008, 04:52:08 PM »
don't assume I can't , you should be clear

Not assuming you can't. You've made some pretty inciteful posts on these boards, so I doubt comprehension is your problem. I said you were not, not that you could not. Whether this is due to a lack of clarity or specificity on my part, ...or attributable to your reading something else into my statement, I don't know. All I did was ask why it was used against him. I wasn't defending him, or stating he was being railroaded or the victim of some grand conspiratorial frame-up. I just wanted to know why it was used against him. There's always a reason, and usually an urgent one. 10 yrs is a long time to make use of call girls, ...and I don't care how politically blasé someone is, ...they have to know they're doing the Governor.

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ummmmm NO , your interpretation is incorrect , the sex is OBVIOUSLY causing the effect , BUT FOR the sex there would be no revelation

But not for the revelation, he'd still be in office. It is only the revelation of his illicit sexual escapades that has caused his downfall, not the sex, ...otherwise he'd be content to continue to shell out $4K a night to her and the public would not be the wiser. it wasn't the sex that did it, ...it was it's revelation.
 

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and it was with a hooker which is illegal          ::)         he coulda boinked Mary next door


I guess this struggling 22 yr. old aspiring musician, has unwittingly soared to sudden fame, and no doubt fortune overnight, a record deal is sure to be in the works, ...a governor resigns in disgrace, and Wall Street heaves a huge sigh of relief and celebrates into the wee hours of the morning. All because of what? I guess that's a lot of power in between those little legs of hers huh?   8)    ;)
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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2008, 05:15:35 PM »
Not assuming you can't. You've made some pretty inciteful posts on these boards, so I doubt comprehension is your problem. I said you were not, not that you could not. Whether this is due to a lack of clarity or specificity on my part, ...or attributable to your reading something else into my statement, I don't know.

inciteful I'm not accepting  ::) hard to read something into it ....I can't see your point   simply that
*edit* did you mis -spell and mean insightful ?
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All I did was ask why it was used against him. I wasn't defending him, or stating he was being railroaded or the victim of some grand conspiratorial frame-up. I just wanted to know why it was used against him. There's always a reason, and usually an urgent one. 10 yrs is a long time to make use of call girls, ...and I don't care how politically blasé someone is, ...they have to know they're doing the Governor.

the investigation of the whorehouse maybe brought it up  ???

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But not for the revelation, he'd still be in office. It is only the revelation of his illicit sexual escapades that has caused his downfall, not the sex, ...otherwise he'd be content to continue to shell out $4K a night to her and the public would not be the wiser. it wasn't the sex that did it, ...it was it's revelation.

what came first the chicken or the egg ?
 

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I guess this struggling 22 yr. old aspiring musician, has unwittingly soared to sudden fame, and no doubt fortune overnight, a record deal is sure to be in the works, ...a governor resigns in disgrace, and Wall Street heaves a huge sigh of relief and celebrates into the wee hours of the morning. All because of what?

an self worshipping asshat who decided to wet his willy in a whore


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I guess that's a lot of power in between those little legs of hers huh?   8)    ;)

wonder how many mpg hers gets ?


glad I don't think of my sexuality that way

That's not quite the bottom line IMO. I've been doing a little investigating since this story broke. Truth be told, I'd never even heard of the guy until I saw his press conference announcing his resignation. I thought Pataki was still gov.  :-[. So here's how I see it.

Yes, Spitzer hired a hooker = illegal. There are plenty of things that are illegal and should not be, ...at least certainly are not enforced. I don't see police officers in Boston arresting men for kissing their wives on the lips. Another law on the books. Nor do I see police officers arresting men for sitting on the same park bench as a woman, ...another archaic law on the books that shouldn't be (At least not in North America anyway)

Yes, he knew what he was up to when he spouted his rhetoric = hypocritical

There's far more to it than that however. If every politician was skewered & turfed out of office because they had a mistress or made use of a call girl, the halls of power throughout the world would be pretty empty.

His enemies DID "get it up" for him. They didn't call the hooker and place her under or on top of him,
...but they sure "got it up for him" in a big way. He was on a crusade to clean up the corruption on Wall Street.

I meant it literally >in the room naked strokin or sumthin< just so you know what I meant clearer > the actual wood that did the deed<




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This was the same man who refused a campaign contribution by Epstein... the same West Palm Beach multi-millionaire with a penchant for hiring underage prostitutes.

His crusading made many enemies, ...and when you couple that with his hypocrisy = very poor judgement, and a sure-fire recipe for a quick and precipitous drop off the end of a cliff!

The bottom line is, ...he went down not because what he did was illegal. He went down because he was a fool!

a fool who broke the law


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Re: Disgraced Spitzer Won't Need New Job
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2008, 05:40:52 PM »
inciteful I'm not accepting  ::) hard to read something into it ....I can't see your point   simply that
*edit* did you mis -spell and mean insightful ?

yep. I do that alot with some words. That happens to be one of them.

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the investigation of the whorehouse maybe brought it up  ???

Ya, that's what I was thinking. Can you imagine the flack it would have produced if it was just some random wiretap under the PA?

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what came first the chicken or the egg ?

The void. Then a voice said ..."Let there be light!"
 
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an self worshipping asshat who decided to wet his willy in a whore

Literally, ...I heard he didn't use condoms.  :o


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wonder how many mpg hers gets ?

At $4K a night, one would think it wouldn't have to be much, ...but who knows?

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glad I don't think of my sexuality that way

It's not a matter of how you see your sexuality. It's simply a chronologically documentable fact.
Clearly it pursuaded some pretty foolish, reckless, and illegal activity for which there was a lot of fallout.
That's power, ...any way you cut it.

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I meant it literally >in the room naked strokin or sumthin< just so you know what I meant clearer > the actual wood that did the deed<

You really think it was wood, ...he strikes me more of the bendy plastic type, ...not necessarily wood.
I just hope they don't start with the "Spitzer forged illegal scrips for Viagra so he could do her" tabloid stories.  ::)

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a fool who broke the law

It took a while, ...but we finally found some common ground with which to agree.  :D
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