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I just read this article from the new SI last night and wanted to share this quote which immediately changed my mind on the views of the writer Jack McCallum. The guy is obviously a biased moron...

Full Article - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/magazine/03/11/steroids1/index.html

"Or take California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who despite having used steroids to help him become a seven-time winner of the Mr. Olympia title, bodybuilding's top prize, was named by George H.W. Bush in 1990 to head the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. By all accounts Schwarzenegger (who says he stopped using steroids well before it became illegal to sell or possess them without a prescription, in '90) worked tirelessly and brought unprecedented attention to the council, decrying steroid use all the while. But there was the overmuscled Ah-nold model for all to see. The governor continues to say that PEDs have no place in sport, yet tacitly endorses their use with his annual Arnold Sports Festival, a carnival of muscle porn in Columbus, Ohio, that includes bodybuilding contests and an expo featuring supplements pushed by cartoonishly sculpted hulks. "Even though performance-enhancing drugs have been part of his life," said one exhibitor at last week's festival who requested anonymity, "what can Arnold do? He has to say he's against them.""

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 11:48:37 AM »
a carnival of muscle porn

cartoonishly sculpted hulks


LOL....

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 11:53:47 AM »
a carnival of muscle porn

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LOL....


HAHAHAHAHAHA exactly the reason I posted it ;D


But seriously what a cheap shot to sum up the entire 4 day event which host dozens of events and hundreds of athletes competing mostly in sports not involving BBing at all.
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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 12:19:20 PM »
But that's how the public see it.  It's not just him, if you lined up a whole bunch of sports writers and sent them along, they'd all come up with similar views.  These guys deal with real athletes on a daily basis, to go to the ASC and see a bunch of muscle chicks in thongs, acne covered fan boys sweating in otomix shows, and the 'pros' with more drugs in them than a local pharmacy.  At least athletes who use can still lay claim to actualy ability. 
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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 12:20:46 PM »

HAHAHAHAHAHA exactly the reason I posted it ;D


But seriously what a cheap shot to sum up the entire 4 day event which host dozens of events and hundreds of athletes competing mostly in sports not involving BBing at all.

why do you think its a cheap shot? sure, there are dozens of events during that weekend....but the main draw was...is...and always will be the bodybuilding.

seems like a pretty accurate quote if you ask me. with the latest push against "enhancement" drugs, its seems odd that the governer of california would have his named stamped all over it. i know it was before he was in politics, but it just seems like a funny oxymoron.

obviously nothing will be done, nothing will change, but in my opinion is arnold should either continue to "act" and promote bodybuilding, or be involved in tight assed politics....not both

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 12:24:39 PM »
a carnival of muscle porn

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LOL....

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 06:49:56 PM »
Along with the Olympia, ASC is GROUND ZERO for the greatest concentration of steroid use anywhere on the planet atr any given time.

Although not very palatable, the writer's comments were accurate.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 06:55:55 PM »
a carnival of muscle porn

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LOL....

Straight out of Haney Rambod's vocabulary!


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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 07:02:29 PM »
I just read this article from the new SI last night and wanted to share this quote which immediately changed my mind on the views of the writer Jack McCallum. The guy is obviously a biased moron...

Full Article - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/magazine/03/11/steroids1/index.html

"Or take California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who despite having used steroids to help him become a seven-time winner of the Mr. Olympia title, bodybuilding's top prize, was named by George H.W. Bush in 1990 to head the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. By all accounts Schwarzenegger (who says he stopped using steroids well before it became illegal to sell or possess them without a prescription, in '90) worked tirelessly and brought unprecedented attention to the council, decrying steroid use all the while. But there was the overmuscled Ah-nold model for all to see. The governor continues to say that PEDs have no place in sport, yet tacitly endorses their use with his annual Arnold Sports Festival, a carnival of muscle porn in Columbus, Ohio, that includes bodybuilding contests and an expo featuring supplements pushed by cartoonishly sculpted hulks. "Even though performance-enhancing drugs have been part of his life," said one exhibitor at last week's festival who requested anonymity, "what can Arnold do? He has to say he's against them.""



Seems pretty spot on to me, but the thing is, i could care less that its the case....Also, ive always been a fan of cartoons, so the dopehead reporter can just go back to that bowl he was smoking....

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 08:00:30 PM »
But that's how the public see it.  It's not just him, if you lined up a whole bunch of sports writers and sent them along, they'd all come up with similar views.  These guys deal with real athletes on a daily basis, to go to the ASC and see a bunch of muscle chicks in thongs, acne covered fan boys sweating in otomix shows, and the 'pros' with more drugs in them than a local pharmacy.  At least athletes who use can still lay claim to actualy ability. 
What's a "REAL ATHLETE"?  Squat 465x10 and tell me you dont have to be athletic to do it.  Doesnt take any athletic ability to that,huh?
 

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 08:16:04 PM »
It's not hard to assume that Arnold could use those other sports to hide the bodybuilding aspect of the event.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 08:37:24 PM »
Along with the Olympia, ASC is GROUND ZERO for the greatest concentration of steroid use anywhere on the planet atr any given time.

Although not very palatable, the writer's comments were accurate.
Sadly, I agree. I also have been saying in several posts that with Arnold a big time Gov now and the sports biggest name, this drug issue is going to get more heated.
I wish drug use in sports was LEGAL, but, that is not going to happen.
That is why I am for drug testing. The sports writters and gen public know too much now and they are sick of it.
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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 08:42:57 PM »
But that's how the public see it.  It's not just him

Because members of the general public, by and large, are ignorant on this subject.  Good journalists wouldn't cave in and agree with such ignorance.  The Arnold Classic weekend should be described objectively as what it is, not in a way which subscribes to what the public wants to hear.
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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2008, 08:46:35 PM »
what a fucking jealous hater


id like to take bitch slap the shit out of that little wanna-be sports writer

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2008, 08:56:36 PM »
what a fucking jealous hater


id like to take bitch slap the shit out of that little wanna-be sports writer

That's sports writers in general. Sometimes I think they are more vicious than investigative news reporters. Either way, the sports media is CONSUMED with steroid talk and debate and if you don't think they are going to shine a big light on the world of bodybuilding you are misled.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2008, 05:50:25 AM »
I just read this article from the new SI last night and wanted to share this quote which immediately changed my mind on the views of the writer Jack McCallum. The guy is obviously a biased moron...

Full Article - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/magazine/03/11/steroids1/index.html

"Or take California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who despite having used steroids to help him become a seven-time winner of the Mr. Olympia title, bodybuilding's top prize, was named by George H.W. Bush in 1990 to head the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. By all accounts Schwarzenegger (who says he stopped using steroids well before it became illegal to sell or possess them without a prescription, in '90) worked tirelessly and brought unprecedented attention to the council, decrying steroid use all the while. But there was the overmuscled Ah-nold model for all to see. The governor continues to say that PEDs have no place in sport, yet tacitly endorses their use with his annual Arnold Sports Festival, a carnival of muscle porn in Columbus, Ohio, that includes bodybuilding contests and an expo featuring supplements pushed by cartoonishly sculpted hulks. "Even though performance-enhancing drugs have been part of his life," said one exhibitor at last week's festival who requested anonymity, "what can Arnold do? He has to say he's against them.""





they mention John Romano in that article...hahahah, he spitted his gut out to them

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2008, 06:01:17 AM »
Because members of the general public, by and large, are ignorant on this subject.  Good journalists wouldn't cave in and agree with such ignorance.  The Arnold Classic weekend should be described objectively as what it is, not in a way which subscribes to what the public wants to hear.

have you ever been?

if you havent, it might change your view a little. its a side show of freaks, sluts, and delusional people....

puffed up juice monkeys roaming around in all their "golds gym" gear looking like a walking cliche for all that is wrong for the 'sport"



are there good people there? sure. are there other things other than bodybuilding? of course. but you need to realize that what we see on the internet, magazines, and in the gyms are not what people typically see on a day to day basis. the shock value of a 230lb shredded dude is gone for us...

but to the average person, muscle girls in thongs in public, juiced up, loud bodybuilders ripping their shirts off, weird supplement gimmicks, MIDGET WRESTLING!.......

a freak show.....

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2008, 06:10:03 AM »
have you ever been?

if you havent, it might change your view a little. its a side show of freaks, sluts, and delusional people....

puffed up juice monkeys roaming around in all their "golds gym" gear looking like a walking cliche for all that is wrong for the 'sport"



are there good people there? sure. are there other things other than bodybuilding? of course. but you need to realize that what we see on the internet, magazines, and in the gyms are not what people typically see on a day to day basis. the shock value of a 230lb shredded dude is gone for us...

but to the average person, muscle girls in thongs in public, juiced up, loud bodybuilders ripping their shirts off, weird supplement gimmicks, MIDGET WRESTLING!.......

a freak show.....

What the fuck do they expect? Sometimes I wish bodybuilding and bodybuilders in general would stop acting as if the whole thing is a sport when it's not. That's why they get into trouble in the media - because they're trying to make out that it's a sport and athletic activity. They then make it an easy target for all the anti-drug mob (the media) because no pursuit on earth compares with bodybuilding for drug use.

If it were a tattoo convention people wouldn't give a shit - that place would be full of freaks and weirdos too but at least they're not wandering around trying to pass off their culture as a "sport". People just leave them alone as a result.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2008, 06:13:16 AM »
have you ever been?

if you havent, it might change your view a little. its a side show of freaks, sluts, and delusional people....

puffed up juice monkeys roaming around in all their "golds gym" gear looking like a walking cliche for all that is wrong for the 'sport"



are there good people there? sure. are there other things other than bodybuilding? of course. but you need to realize that what we see on the internet, magazines, and in the gyms are not what people typically see on a day to day basis. the shock value of a 230lb shredded dude is gone for us...

but to the average person, muscle girls in thongs in public, juiced up, loud bodybuilders ripping their shirts off, weird supplement gimmicks, MIDGET WRESTLING!.......

a freak show.....



lol.....maybe it's just the nature of the BEAST

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2008, 06:18:02 AM »
here is a quote from this article that I think is funny "But Timbaland trumpets the bodybuilding and weightlifting regimen that turned him from a 300-pound blubber factory into a buff bodybuilder".....hahahaha, timbaland looks more like a 300lbs pile of Horse shit

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2008, 06:20:35 AM »
Did you guys bother to read the article?It was as pro steroid as anything Ive read in years.Christ,they almost praised Tony Fitton in the second part of the article.This was a very fair article devoid of the usual assanine foolishness of Don Hooten or the aptly named DICK POUND.The author absolutely kills George Mitchell in it.Read the WHOLE thing.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2008, 06:24:25 AM »
Did you guys bother to read the article?It was as pro steroid as anything Ive read in years.Christ,they almost praised Tony Fitton in the second part of the article.This was a very fair article devoid of the usual assanine foolishness of Don Hooten or the aptly named DICK POUND.The author absolutely kills George Mitchell in it.Read the WHOLE thing.


these SI sport writers are full of shit. they should take their sedentary ass to a local gym and get a bang out of their sorry life instead.

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2008, 07:20:56 AM »
Because members of the general public, by and large, are ignorant on this subject.  Good journalists wouldn't cave in and agree with such ignorance.  The Arnold Classic weekend should be described objectively as what it is, not in a way which subscribes to what the public wants to hear.


Exactly he straight up insulted everyone in the BBing industry and everyone who attends and/or competes at the Arnold sports festival. This guy is a horrible journalist and either he is ignorant and stupid or has someone elses agenda in mind.
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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2008, 07:33:45 AM »
My opinion is that his words rang true

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Re: Sports Illustrated's view on steroids, Arnold and the ASC.
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2008, 07:47:36 AM »
I have to agree.  But I'm sure Arnold is pretty aware of it actually and he's got to make some changes sometime soon.  I don't know what he'll do, but I'm pretty sure this is already something on his mind-he knows that more and more people are going to start seeing that as hypocritical...and their kinda right.