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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2008, 09:39:58 AM »
Already at 25 testo levels begin to drop....
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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2008, 09:52:21 AM »
Yes!!
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having a baby will shrink your waistline and your wallet.

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2008, 10:14:17 AM »
240 is a hardgainer that had trouble putting on muscle in his 20's

it doesn't get any easier in your 30's so hormones are the answer if you want to reach your goals

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2008, 10:31:36 AM »
THe sad truth is gh is right  he could gain weight but no way would he be under 10 percent natural maybe if he gained then cut

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2008, 11:03:29 AM »
he's 100% right... if your a good size before 30 youl no doubt keep most of it.. if youve trained a few years, and still havnt acheived that size before then, you never will,,, unless u use gear....FACT..

you gain most your size in your 1st few years of training, and your more or less stuck with that unless you take gear,, then youl get to an optimum size on that, then you might even try slin etc etc

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2008, 04:38:32 PM »
guys over 25 hardly make any gains natually ,,they all on hormones,,they all beg for products from morning to night and many of them dont even look at weights when hormones are not with them and thats why they go from cycle to cycle and shorten the times between cycles to almost nothing

I gotta disagree with you here.  It all depends on one's genetics, work ethic in the gym, consistency in diet and training, etc.  But it's certainly possible for guys to make decent gains after 25--without hormones.

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2008, 05:00:38 PM »
squats, deadlifts, milk, whole wheat bread

guaranteed to put size on you

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2008, 06:58:09 PM »
I gotta disagree with you here.  It all depends on one's genetics, work ethic in the gym, consistency in diet and training, etc.  But it's certainly possible for guys to make decent gains after 25--without hormones.

exactly although 240 has shitty genetics he still could improve  ahelluva lot with decent meal plan rest and training cycled...gh15 is a moron definitely not a pro....
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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2008, 07:37:15 PM »
I think he wants to look like a body builder though , lean and full with good size eg 100kg/220pd not a fat out of shape husky looking powerlifter  ???

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2008, 10:41:47 PM »
always remember that the main point of bodybuilding is to look bigger even if yuore not weigh as much as you look ,,you can be 160 naturally and look 185lb if ripped and single digit and have good wideness to waist ratio,,this still doesn mean you have bodybuilding size,,

at 5'10 inorder to look anything like a bodybuilder you need to be 200lb atleast looking like 220 230lb and walking areound preferably 10% or under,,only then you will look like what people call bodybuilder,,for that at his age hormones are needed ,,moderate use of hormones consistant use of hormones and it really doesnt matter if it is one hormone or combo but at this age he has to feel hungry and make sure that the food go to the right place,,,only thing that will bring this hunger and anaboloic distribution of nutrition is hormones,,past 25 most guys start sag,,the ones who all their life is bodybuilding and dont do anything but bodybuilding eat and sleep may start sag at 30,,im talkin naturally here,,,in any case between 25-30 naturally you become nothing and defenitrlly will never look like a massive/big bodybuilder and that means low double digits to low single digit % with out hormones and the right use of those hormones
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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2008, 10:49:47 PM »
gh15 is right, need hormones, pharmacy grade. 
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