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Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« on: March 15, 2008, 10:09:37 AM »
 Pentagon review of about 600,000 documents captured in the Iraq war attests to Saddam Hussein's willingness to use terrorism to target Americans and work closely with jihadist organizations throughout the Middle East.

The report, released this week by the Institute for Defense Analyses, says it found no "smoking gun" linking Iraq operationally to Al Qaeda. But it does say Saddam collaborated with known Al Qaeda affiliates and a wider constellation of Islamist terror groups.....


http://www.nysun.com/article/72906?page_no=1

The most interesting thing is not the AQ ties or lack of a direct tie but this...

The report also undercuts the claim made by many on the left and many at the CIA that Saddam, as a national socialist, was incapable of supporting or collaborating with the Islamist al Qaeda. The report concludes that instead Iraq's relationship with Osama bin Laden's organization was similar to the relationship between the rival Colombian cocaine cartels in the 1990s. Both were rivals in some sense for market share, but also allies when it came to expanding the size of the overall market.

The Pentagon study finds, "Recognizing Iraq as a second, or parallel, 'terror cartel' that was simultaneously threatened by and somewhat aligned with its rival helps to explain the evidence emerging from the detritus of Saddam's regime."



My take is that there is a finite number of top level terror guys...and the more of these guys we suck into Iraq and kill..the safer the West becomes. Thats why we are now winning in Iraq. the top AQ guys are dead or taking off.  The Sons of Iraq are banding together and are sick of outside influences. We have a shot to end this thing and pull out.
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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2008, 10:12:04 AM »
Pentagon review of about 600,000 documents captured in the Iraq war attests to Saddam Hussein's willingness to use terrorism to target Americans and work closely with jihadist organizations throughout the Middle East.

The report, released this week by the Institute for Defense Analyses, says it found no "smoking gun" linking Iraq operationally to Al Qaeda.

I stopped reading right about here.

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2008, 10:16:30 AM »
U should read the whole thing..it changed the minds of mnay on how he was doing business...it wasn't AQ as would the Bush/Chney crew have u believ..but it was not "nothing" as would the hard left have u believe.
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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2008, 10:23:41 AM »
Verrrry interesting.  From the article:

• In the same year, Saddam ordered his intelligence service to "form a group to start hunting Americans present on Arab soil; especially Somalia." At the time, Al Qaeda was working with warlords against American forces there.

• Saddam's intelligence services maintained extensive support networks for a wide range of Palestinian Arab terrorist organizations, including but not limited to Hamas. Among the other Palestinian groups Saddam supported at the time was Force 17, the private army loyal to Yasser Arafat.

• Beginning in 1999, Iraq's intelligence service began providing "financial and moral support" for a small radical Islamist Kurdish sect the report does not name. A Kurdish Islamist group called Ansar al Islam in 2002 would try to assassinate the regional prime minister in the eastern Kurdish region, Barham Salih.

• In 2001, Saddam's intelligence service drafted a manual titled "Lessons in Secret Organization and Jihad Work—How to Organize and Overthrow the Saudi Royal Family." In the same year, his intelligence service submitted names of 10 volunteer "martyrs" for operations inside the Kingdom.

• In 2000, Iraq sent a suicide bomber through Northern Iraq who intended to travel to London to assassinate Ahmad Chalabi, at the time an Iraqi opposition leader who would later go on to be an Iraqi deputy prime minister. The mission was aborted after the bomber could not obtain a visa to enter the United Kingdom.
 
 

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2008, 10:31:11 AM »
It only took them 5 years to create find those documents.

I'm impressed, considereing they were so correct with the info on WMD's and stuff.

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2008, 10:32:05 AM »
There is nothing there that is too shocking
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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2008, 01:54:01 PM »
Attn" hh6.  We've been lied to so many times...(almost daily) that were tired of it and cant wait till this admin is thrown out and we can start dragging them into court for treason and a million other crimes......Saddam had good reason to hate the US as does alot of country's....we try to make new enemies daily , it appears.

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 03:24:22 PM »
Institute for Defense Analyses has it's early roots in MIT.  I think it's interesting that when I posted the study out of MIT on Iraq I got lamblasted with comments that MIT was liberal and therefor not credible.

This is all a little silly looking at the larger picture.  We probably have a bigger history of working with extremists than Saddam ever did and that's a fact.  Pakistan as much if not more and they're our buddies!  Finding associations between terrorists and middle eastern governments, probably not hard to find some dealings once you rummage through millions of documents in any of these governments.  If one could have free access to search through mountains of US classified documents, it would blow your mind who we've delt with.  So really, larger picture here, what does it really mean that once you've searched the entire pile of straw with Saddam you find a few items?  Not saying Saddam was a great guy or anything, but none of this crap was worth it, that's obvious.

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2008, 03:34:53 PM »
looks like their coming out with this stuff at the right time i expect a lot more
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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2008, 03:43:23 PM »
looks like their coming out with this stuff at the right time i expect a lot more
September 11, 2008 News today... massive stockpiles of WMD were found today by a team of undercover commandos in Syria.  The weapons appear to have been planted by us skirted away in the leadup to the Iraq war.  Democrats and Libs were wrong and will never recover.  More to come at 9:00... This has been a special Fox News report.

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 04:12:49 PM »
September 11, 2008 News today... massive stockpiles of WMD were found today by a team of undercover commandos in Syria.  The weapons appear to have been planted by us skirted away in the leadup to the Iraq war.  Democrats and Libs were wrong and will never recover.  More to come at 9:00... This has been a special Fox News report.


hahahah... they also killed osama when they found the WMD.  John Mccain was there, leading the charge on a beautiful white stallion...  The libs were defeated today!

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Re: Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 05:05:17 PM »

hahahah... they also killed osama when they found the WMD.  John Mccain was there, leading the charge on a beautiful white stallion...  The libs were defeated today!

haha