Obama's Speech—A Brief for Whitey

[timfogarty]

I don't know how it is where you live, but here there are hospitals all over the place, in both rich and poor neighborhoods.

where I live, Los Angeles, we have a health care crisis.  half of all trauma centers have shut down because of lack of funds.   there was a recent report on the news that non-critical patients often waited 18-24 hours in the waiting room to be seen.

[G o a t b o y]

where I live, Los Angeles, we have a health care crisis.  half of all trauma centers have shut down because of lack of funds.   there was a recent report on the news that non-critical patients often waited 18-24 hours in the waiting room to be seen.

Move to Houston.  You might not see celebrities (actually that's a good thing), but you'll live a whole hell of a lot better.

[chaos]

Move to Houston.  You might not see celebrities (actually that's a good thing), but you'll live a whole hell of a lot better.

Lots of "Hard working african americans" in Houston.

[War-Horse]

Our super hero firefighters from 9/11 had quicker medical help from cuba than from here.  People are going to canada to get healthcare.   The only way for good service here is if you dont use it.

Movie (Sicko)      People in France were laughing that we thought the wait times were long.

Its like a bank policy.  If you need the  money you will be turned down.    If you dont need the money...we will loan you all you want.

[candidizzle]

so the federal government doesnt fund any firefighters?



 


what do you guys think the role of government is?

[chaos]

Our super hero firefighters from 9/11 had quicker medical help from cuba than from here.  People are going to canada to get healthcare.   The only way for good service here is if you dont use it.

Movie (Sicko)      People in France were laughing that we thought the wait times were long.

Its like a bank policy.  If you need the  money you will be turned down.    If you dont need the money...we will loan you all you want.

Funny, I had a couple Canadians tell me once they had to wait 2 months for an appointment.

[G o a t b o y]

Lots of "Hard working african americans" in Houston.

No, actually our hard workers are Mexicans.  They all have jobs and bust their asses.  Our "African Americans" are a different story.  However, despite Katrina, there are fewer "Africans" in Houston as a percentage than many large cities. 

[G o a t b o y]

Funny, I had a couple Canadians tell me once they had to wait 2 months for an appointment.

Exactly.  I have had many friends from Canada and from Europe tell me similar first-hand stories, and to a person they all say our health-care system if far better.  Those still in Europe aren't complaining simply because they have nothing to compare it to so they don't know any better.

[G o a t b o y]

so the federal government doesnt fund any firefighters?



 


what do you guys think the role of government is?

Fire departments are primarily funded by local taxes, you idiot.

[candidizzle]

Fire departments are primarily funded by local taxes, you idiot.

so the federal government doesnt have its own firefighters, or fund any state/local firefighters?

 

[War-Horse]

I have 3 friends from canada.  They say we're fulla shit.  They can go in twice a day if they want.

[chaos]

I have 3 friends from canada.  They say we're fulla shit.  They can go in twice a day if they want.

The ones I talked to were from Kitchener, near Toronto.

[War-Horse]

Most americans will start losing their jobs anyway.  But first employers will cut back on benefits that are rising like healthcare.  Theyll tell you take it or leave it...the market will flood with a desperate workforce eager to work for minumum wage.

Kiss your healthcare goodbye soon...

[tonymctones]

No, actually our hard workers are Mexicans.  They all have jobs and bust their asses.  Our "African Americans" are a different story.  However, despite Katrina, there are fewer "Africans" in Houston as a percentage than many large cities. 

So true, I attend the University of Houston and its smack dab in the middle of the ghetto. NO JOKE the popeyes chicken across from campus has bullet proof glass up and a small box cut out of the bottom to give the people the food from. When you drive to school you have to pass by the ghetto and im serious there are like 20 or 30 african americans sitting outside a local convenient store, JUST FUCKING SITTING THERE, at all times of the day. On the other side of town the mexican americans are doing the same thing but there hoping someone comes by and offers them a job  sad but true

[War-Horse]

So true, I attend the University of Houston and its smack dab in the middle of the ghetto. NO JOKE the popeyes chicken across from campus has bullet proof glass up and a small box cut out of the bottom to give the people the food from. When you drive to school you have to pass by the ghetto and im serious there are like 20 or 30 african americans sitting outside a local convenient store, JUST FUCKING SITTING THERE, at all times of the day. On the other side of town the mexican americans are doing the same thing but there hoping someone comes by and offers them a job  sad but true

Poor lil darkies.   But trash comes in all colors...

[Parker]

just nuke the ghettos of America, problem solved 

Then where will the the "good" basketball and football players come from?

[youandme]

Agreed.  This whole church thing really fucked obama, and rightfully so.

I agree. I said this a long time ago, people said the church was based on the traditional Christian dogma 

The church spreads racism, look at what is happening to society right now with this divergence. In fact, look at last nites Yahoo news "Serena Williams father calls racism" when they have no true allegations anything racially ever happend.

[shootfighter1]

I would be interested in seeing some discussion and a possible compromise between private insurance and the government about healthcare.  Something definitely needs to be changed.  However, full government control is not the answer.  Perhaps the gov controlling insurance like they control utilities?
Social security was mentioned...yeah, and look what a disaster that will become soon!
Look at government controlled healthcare now...the VA system, most medical personel and patients can tell you that its likely the worst care with the longest waits in America.  Also, the problems in Europe and Canada would magnify here because we are so much larger.  Still, I agree, something must be done to cover more Americans cheaper.  One issue is to stop all these lawsuits and enormous rewards that drive up malpractice for docs and hospitals.  Next would be to cut spending on end of life extrordinary measures, which makes up a disproportional amount of medical expenses.

[Dos Equis]

I would be interested in seeing some discussion and a possible compromise between private insurance and the government about healthcare.  Something definitely needs to be changed.  However, full government control is not the answer.  Perhaps the gov controlling insurance like they control utilities?
Social security was mentioned...yeah, and look what a disaster that will become soon!
Look at government controlled healthcare now...the VA system, most medical personel and patients can tell you that its likely the worst care with the longest waits in America.  Also, the problems in Europe and Canada would magnify here because we are so much larger.  Still, I agree, something must be done to cover more Americans cheaper.  One issue is to stop all these lawsuits and enormous rewards that drive up malpractice for docs and hospitals.  Next would be to cut spending on end of life extrordinary measures, which makes up a disproportional amount of medical expenses.

Not sure what happens in other states, but insurance in Hawaii is heavily regulated.  We have an Insurance Commissioner that is sort of like a watchdog.  All rate hikes have to be approved.  Doesn't stop them from gouging us (HMSA raised premiums while sitting on a half billion dollar reserve), but they're still under the state government's thumb. 

Then again, we might have better coverage than many states, because all full-time employees get "free" healthcare funded by their employers and our Quest program (along with Medicare/Medicaid) helps those who fall through the cracks. 

[headhuntersix]

Exactly.  I have had many friends from Canada and from Europe tell me similar first-hand stories, and to a person they all say our health-care system if far better.  Those still in Europe aren't complaining simply because they have nothing to compare it to so they don't know any better.

Good post Goat..anyway Candizzel has alot of white guilt..he has zero clue about what he's talking about. If u hate what Bush has done as far as spending, Obama will drive us even deeper. Except we'll all pay more in taxes as he does it. The health care system in England is in taters. People wait in ambulances so hospitals can get around a new Brit law that sets a time limit for ER waits. As far as Canada...i talked to a large group of Canadian fighter pilots a few months ago...they pay almost 50% in taxes. They also talked about their healthcare  system ...people take vacations to the States to get surgeries that take months in Canada. No bid contracts......we're talking KBR/Haliburton so lets name names idiot. Nobody worldwide can replictae what KBR can do...nobody so forget whining. They take pretty good care of us overseas. If we could have kept a few no bid contracts, I'd be carring an H@K M8 machine gun instead of the pos M-4. Candizidiot just because people don't like Obama does not make them racist...after all the shit his preacher said...who's the racist..get a clue.

[delta9mda]

you have no idea who i am or what i have done in american politics.  all you know is i am a white kid thats into bodybuilding at posts under "candidizzle".   


dont act like you know ANYTHING about the u.s. government, its politicians, and the way things are ran. you dont.

you are 18 years old, you only know what you have been told.

[24KT]

   Good job throwing up a red herring.



The point is, I don't want to see America's health care system, the best in the world...

"The best in the world"

You mean the best in the world after France, ...UK, ...Norway, ...Malta, ...Japan, ...Italy, ...Switzerland, ...Ireland, Slovenia, ...Canada, ...oh crap, my fingers are getting tired. You meant it's the best in the world after the other 26 countries whose systems are better right?

[G o a t b o y]

I have 3 friends from canada.  They say we're fulla shit.  They can go in twice a day if they want.

To a "primary care physician", sure.

Ask them about specialists, diagnostic testing, and operations and you'll get a whole other story. 

[Benny B]

No, actually our hard workers are Mexicans.  They all have jobs and bust their asses.  Our "African Americans" are a different story.  However, despite Katrina, there are fewer "Africans" in Houston as a percentage than many large cities. 

So by your standard the African-Americans don't work hard in your lovey city? Perhaps because they don't do back breaking work like newly arrived illegal immigrants making less than they deserve, no? Show me another ethnic population that has been in America for three-four centuries and accepts substandard pay and working conditions. Perhaps German-Americans are out doing this back breaking work alongside those "hard working Mexicans"? 

[Benny B]

"The best in the world"

You mean the best in the world after France, ...UK, ...Norway, ...Malta, ...Japan, ...Italy, ...Switzerland, ...Ireland, Slovenia, ...Canada, ...oh crap, my fingers are getting tired. You meant it's the best in the world after the other 26 countries whose systems are better right?

The man's been drinking some seriously spiked Kool-Aid, Jag.