i like jay in top form pre07 condition he was off 07,he guest poses in great shape but his routine is boring.comparing say yates who put a good guest posing routine and was also in good shape for appearances,watch his old guest appearances bigger crowds and cheering was loud on every pose,his body exploded when he flexed.i wasn.t a big fan of yates but comparing 2 olympians different eras u would think bbing would have progressed .both are unique due to pushing size limits i still think yates had more overall impact on the sport,he came in and ushered new syandards,cutler is just following trend.