McCain 51% Clinton 41% & McCain 49% Obama 42%

[BayGBM]

their job is to protect america, not march off to their deaths for no good focking reason.

They had a reason: the whims of Bush and Cheney.

Seriously, when hear the body count for this war and see the injuries of the wounded it drives me to distraction to know that it was all unnecessary.  Iraq was never a threat to the US. 

[Paul Allen]

their job is to protect america, not march off to their deaths for no good focking reason.

you can ask your old man for details, but their oath goes along the lines of "listening to the commander in chief blindly, even if it leads to death".

of course i'm paraphrasing.  and like my marine buddy said before he got deployed "well, fuck it, more truck drivers die in america each year than in iraq".

the media makes the soldier's "suffering" a lot worse than the soldiers do.  in fact, most of them despise being patronized like they are.  just leave them alone and let them go off and die for whoever they want to.

[BayGBM]

you can ask your old man for details, but their oath goes along the lines of "listening to the commander in chief blindly, even if it leads to death".

of course i'm paraphrasing.  and like my marine buddy said before he got deployed "well, fuck it, more truck drivers die in america each year than in iraq".

the media makes the soldier's "suffering" a lot worse than the soldiers do.  in fact, most of them despise being patronized like they are.  just leave them alone and let them go off and die for whoever they want to.

If you and your friends want to follow a fool, commit suicide, or suffer in silence go right ahead; you will not be missed.  But don't expect the rest of us to keep quiet when the servicemen and women we DO care about are being maltreated, discarded by the VA, or ask us to agitate on their behalf.

[War-Horse]

If you and your friends want to follow a fool, commit suicide, or suffer in silence go right ahead; you will not be missed.  But don't expect the rest of us to keep quiet when the servicemen and women we DO care about are being maltreated, discarded by the VA, or ask us to agitate on their behalf.

Most soldiers can quick care in cuba right now......Michael moore gets em in easily..

[Hugo Chavez]

cockgobblins... this has got to be bullshit.

[headhuntersix]

If you and your friends want to follow a fool, commit suicide, or suffer in silence go right ahead; you will not be missed.  But don't expect the rest of us to keep quiet when the servicemen and women we DO care about are being maltreated, discarded by the VA, or ask us to agitate on their behalf.

The VA had some issues....is this supposed to be Bush's fault as well. The VA was a shambles during all the other previous administartions as well. Hom many vets want u to agitate....the vast majority don't. U have large numbers of guys reenlisting and u have folks who have had limbs blown off, begging to go back...why? Not because they love it, but because they want to get the job done and don't want to let down their buddies. Lets not make the tiny anti-war movement seem overimportant.