Chick- why don't you stay on the good stuff? I see Jeffers out here all the time and he is older than you but more muscular and less bf. You obviously are gifted (kinda lol) in your response to hormones so why not do it? Gary Strydom is 50 and he is better than you too as it Vince Taylor. I just don't understand how you know what to do, have the ability to do, but choose not to do it. Btw, I'm just poking fun at you...even though you are kinda mean sometimes...I don't take this board TOO seriously.